Why Python, Crybstyl, Ricker, etc... discuss peaceably..

[ricker]

Most of my friends in the church who considered themselves 'progressive Adventist' have all left the church, sad...

Yes, it is sad. I've heard Adventism is one of the fastest growing denominations in the US, though, so they must be being replaced.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I hate to say this but boy are you a nut case. Just acknowledge that you hate the man because he's black and became the President of the United States. Sour grapes and ungrateful losers. You will believe anything if you believe that this man was vetted any different than anyone else. Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

Interesting that I can't have a negative opinion against Obama without being racist, I guess he can only be critiqued by those of African decent...

you sound like the Zionists, who accuse anyone that criticizes the actions of Israel as anti-semitic.

 

[stinsonmarri]

sometimes we want to believe the things we want to believe and the truth hurts...

Want to believe what can you clarify sir John? And pray tell what truth hurt?

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

Supposedly we are at 50% for and against same sex marriage. How can we call ourselves a Christian USA when 1/2 of us go totally against what the Bible says? Doesn't it take 2/3 to enforce something?

I am not saying anything about not loving those that choose this life style but the Bible says:

Genesis 2:23-25


23 The man said,
“(A)This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
[a]She shall be called [b]Woman,
Because [c]she was taken out of [d]Man.”

24 (B)For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 (C)And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.




Cross references:

1. Genesis 2:23 : Gen 29:14; Eph 5:28, 29
2. Genesis 2:24 : Matt 19:5; Mark 10:7, 8; 1 Cor 6:16; Eph 5:31
3. Genesis 2:25 : Gen 3:7, 10, 11

When we will say it's OK for rapists to do what they want to do? When will we say it's OK for Murders to do what they want to do(Oh I forgot we already do; abortion).

I do not agree with anything that is agains obeying Elohim. However, hate the sin love the sinner. And when Yashua return He will bring His reward with for the righteous and the unrighteous. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the Creators and the Father is the Judge. Many who call themself righteous on the outside might not. There will be a lot of people that will not make into the kingdom besides those who are gay.

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

Given that I mainly dated minorities when I was younger ( mostly black girls )....
...And ended up getting married to an Asian woman I find your sour grapes analogy foolish.
...I have nothing against anyone because of the color of their skin - I just take issue with character.

But again, I'm used to "professional victims" playing the race card.....
...The days where that's effective are coming to an end - sooner than later

Python:
Just because you dated black girls does not say what's in you heart. Many black men dated white woman and hated whites at the same time. What is in this man character that you have found to be judged! You know I do remember about the woman you place on the forum and try to blame ammaglamation on EGW and SDA. That also was very racist and that why I requested that it be removed. I have forgiven you and moved on but to judge and make false allocation that you yourself cannot prove about President Obma's birth is wrong. In order to be the President of United States you have to be vetted. Now it does not make any sense that all of a certain when this man who happens to be black has a fake Birth certificate that only the way offshoot right wings finds it but noone else. Now that is totally rediculous and unreal. You and I have had good conversation and you have given me compliments that I cherish. But when you make this kind of statement as you did about that poor misfigure woman then it is sickning and vey sad.

Nothing is hidden these days about people and it would be headline news if this man birth was not authentic. She was a white educated woman who married an Afrikan man who was educated. He left she stayed. She had no idea that her son would one day be the President of the United States. Come on be for real this is crazy. It is alright not to agree with his political view. I am a Democrate but I don't believe in abortion, homsexual acts, rapist, thiefs, the stand your ground law, and much more. But, I respect people whether they are gay, Mormons, Satanist, Hindu, Islamist as long as they don't break the law. I separate my politics from my faith because the law of the land is not following Elohim's laws. Every person has that right to what, how, who they want to believe that is call freedom of choice.

If you study the Mormon's or Latter Day Saints' religion even today they believe in pologamy and that blacks when they go to Heaven will turn white. They believe even today that blacks were curse going back to Cain and that will not change. When you check Romney's record of charity it is only to help other Latter Day Saints and no one else. That is their belief and can easily be checked out. I do not have to give you somebody's web page, it's all over the web. Read it and weep. Does that make Romney a bad man no, but I do not like what he stands for. I will respect him and invite in my home any day of the week. Would you do the same to President Obama?

Oh! Evengelican hate the Mormans do you see a forum on this web for them? They still consider them to be an occult. Jerry Farwell would turn over in his grave if he knew that Romney would be nominated under the Republican Party. He also would die again if he knew that Romney would be speaking at his University today. Hatred is something else! What Romney and his faith or occult is the lesser of two evil than having President Obama (a Christian) in the Whitehouse! Go figure!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

Yes, it is sad. I've heard Adventism is one of the fastest growing denominations in the US, though, so they must be being replaced.

They are go figure!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[Pythons]

Python:
Just because you dated black girls does not say what's in you heart.

If I honestly thought them to be sub-human or low level hominids....
...I certainly would not have spent the time / money on them that I did.

Many black men dated white woman and hated whites at the same time.

I've never witnessed that stinsonmarri - people are people no matter what race they are...
...Of the people that I know that are married to races other than what they are.
...They have friends represented in nearly every race.

One of my best friends is as black as Ace of Spades - we've helped each other over the years....
...And have been at each others dinner table enough I couldn't count the times.
...Again, what you are claiming sounds as if you are a professional victim / hamming up the race card.

What is in this man character that you have found to be judged!

There is PLENTY - feel free to PM me where we can really drill down into....
...Why Obama needs to be voted out as soon as possible.

You know I do remember about the woman you place on the forum and try to blame ammaglamation on EGW and SDA. That also was very racist and that why I requested that it be removed. I have forgiven you and moved on but to judge and make false allocation that you yourself cannot prove about President Obma's birth is wrong.

Ellen White as well as the SDA Pioneers absolutely believed in human / ape hybridization....
...I've already proven that past any and all doubt in the thread you just mentioned.
...I'm saying Obama's selective service document is absolutely fake.
...And it doesn't look good for his birth cert either.

Confirmed: Obama's Birth Certificate Not Authentic 2012 - YouTube

Obama Birth Certificate: Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio Says It Could Be Forged - YouTube


And in my view this is really secondary to the more serious matter....
...Of Obama going against my views - he is pro gay marriage.
...And pro many other things I absolutely do not agree with.

In order to be the President of United States you have to be vetted. Now it does not make any sense that all of a certain when this man who happens to be black has a fake Birth certificate that only the way offshoot right wings finds it but noone else. Now that is totally rediculous and unreal. You and I have had good conversation and you have given me compliments that I cherish. But when you make this kind of statement as you did about that poor misfigure woman then it is sickning and vey sad.

I'm wondering what you will have to say when what I've shown you is demonstrated....
...Where will you take your apologetics then?

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya - YouTube

 

[stinsonmarri]

Python here what you wrote and what I answered.

If I honestly thought them to be sub-human or low level hominids....
...I certainly would not have spent the time / money on them that I did.

I do not know what you did but you did not marry any one of them did you?

I've never witnessed that stinsonmarri - people are people no matter what race they are...

See that's the problem we are all of one race Human!!!!

...Of the people that I know that are married to races other than what they are. ...They have friends represented in nearly every race.

We are not speaking about your friends we are speaking about you!

One of my best friends is as black as Ace of Spades - we've helped each other over the years. And have been at each others dinner table enough I couldn't count the times. Again, what you are claiming sounds as if you are a professional victim / hamming up the race card.

I love it when you say one of my best friends are black. You did not marry any of the black ladies you dated! And would you allow your children to marry a black person is the question? Have you ever had to sit on the back of bus, or could not drink from a fountain because of your skin color. How did you ancestors come over here because mine came in chains.

My greatmother's father is Scot and she is beautiful but because her mother is black even though she looks white in every way you all consider her black! I lived in the north thank the Heavenly Father, so I did not have to sit in the back of the bus. I am back in Georgia where I was born but in the country now. I started a program for all youth, elderly, the poor. I enjoyed it but it was horrible the whites were cruel and fought me all the way. I wanted to help people and I saw a need especially HIV for minority was an all time high. But hatred even in the ninties runs deep in the South.

My sister married a white man that I loved to death. Their daughter perfer white men and she married one. I love him and my sister has two Masters one in Nursing and working on her Doctorate. She live in the worst place Colorado and she has had it tuff. So please stop trying to patronize me, walk a mile in my shoe!!!!!

There is PLENTY - feel free to PM me where we can really drill down into....
...Why Obama needs to be voted out as soon as possible.

He won't you'll see. Elohim put kings/presidents in place and only He when He chooses to takes them down. It is to serve His person so that His Son will saved those with pure hearts. I'll talk by PM to you give me a holler.

Ellen White as well as the SDA Pioneers absolutely believed in human / ape hybridization. I've already proven that past any and all doubt in the thread you just mentioned.

No you did not but some qurky lies and put a picture of a woman that was not an ape but had a disease. It was sick, disgusting and needed to be removed.

I'm saying Obama's selective service document is absolutely fake.
...And it doesn't look good for his birth cert either.

I watch the video of both Mike Zullo, Sheriff Joe Arpaio's (the one who is been investigated himself) investigator. Zullo's co-author is Jerome Corsi is certainly making quick money off you folks. With the new e-book out for sale he laughing alway to the bank. He also bragging about as well it is all over the web.

And in my view this is really secondary to the more serious matter....
...Of Obama going against my views - he is pro gay marriage.
...And pro many other things I absolutely do not agree with.

Hum! Pot calling the kettle black when you are too. You did not respond to anything I said about Romney. The great Mormon occult lovers today. The less of the two evils right. Get President Obama out by any mean necessary. So you all sold your souls to the Devil because that what you all claim that the Mormans are an occult right!

Finally unless you have some wax in your ear. The Ambassador of Kenyan did not say at all that President Obama was born in Kenya. Lie and Fake. Tell you what Python why don't you and I write him a letter directly and see what he writes back ok, I'm game are you?

Blessings,
stinsonmarri





MCSO investigator selling 'birther' investigation online

 

[stinsonmarri]

Interesting that I can't have a negative opinion against Obama without being racist, I guess he can only be critiqued by those of African decent...

you sound like the Zionists, who accuse anyone that criticizes the actions of Israel as anti-semitic.

ECR:
Please what are you referring too??? Please give me your post number because I have not read anything until this one about President Obama from you. The reason is frankly you do not live in USA but Canada I thought. I was talking to Python who is an American unless I'm wrong! So I'm wonder what would you have to do with our President because I know nothing about yours and it would not concern me politically. The point I take up those who call themselves Christians and have rake over President Obama not base on politic but base on religion and racism. You should understand that because we are critizied that we keep the Sabbath and all of the Commands of Elohim and not the law of Moses. Religion should never in this time make your decision in politics unless it breaks Elohim Commandments.

Blessings,
stinsonmarri

 

[Pythons]

I do not know what you did but you did not marry any one of them did you?

Was going to marry one of them but she had another idea...
...She opted out - wanted to continue to party and run wild.
...I reached a point in my life that wasn't going to continue to work for me.

In any event the fact is that I married a "minority" and have remained so for 15 years....
....That's a long shot away from your supposed affirmations of my intentions.

See that's the problem we are all of one race Human!!!!

Just like I already told you - you're playing a professioinal victim....
...But since you want to get specific allow me to help you.


Mongoloid / Negroid / Caucasiod / Astraloid.

Most people who associate themselves as "black" actually fit into the Caucasoid classification....
....Of course this causes great stress to some.

We are not speaking about your friends we are speaking about you!

Right, and just how well you know me and what I've done and not done in my life....
....My guess here is that you are still miffed because I proved that Ellen White affirmed.
...That great Anthropoid Apes hybridized with Afriacan Females to produce Amalgamated species of man.
...The man-apes of legend and lore.

That's your problem - not mine.

I love it when you say one of my best friends are black. You did not marry any of the black ladies you dated! And would you allow your children to marry a black person is the question?

My Son is dating a black girl - they might just get married...
...My Aunt is married to a black man and in my family two others are married to black men.
...You really need to stop watching re-runs of Roots stinson.

Have you ever had to sit on the back of bus, or could not drink from a fountain because of your skin color. How did you ancestors come over here because mine came in chains.

I've been escorted out of night clubs in Ga because I made the mistake of going into them....
...I've had my girlfriend cat called by groups of black men and been threatened by them many times.
...So yeah, I know what it feels like to be hated because of the color of your skin.

My greatmother's father is Scot and she is beautiful but because her mother is black even though she looks white in every way you all consider her black! I lived in the north thank the Heavenly Father, so I did not have to sit in the back of the bus. I am back in Georgia where I was born but in the country now. I started a program for all youth, elderly, the poor. I enjoyed it but it was horrible the whites were cruel and fought me all the way. I wanted to help people and I saw a need especially HIV for minority was an all time high. But hatred even in the ninties runs deep in the South.

Look, I'm happy for you - You want to help blacks and other minorities then get to cracking....
...On the evils of Planned Parenthood - you know the group that loves to hack babies out of black mothers.
...You know the group Obama appears to STRONGLY support.

Obama's Africa - YouTube


You want to help the poor and black people of the world....
...I would suggest jumping on the same bus I'm on and getting to work.
...Get back with me on the above video and tell me if you think what Obama is pushing in Africa.
...Is "good" for the people there.

My sister married a white man that I loved to death. Their daughter perfer white men and she married one. I love him and my sister has two Masters one in Nursing and working on her Doctorate. She live in the worst place Colorado and she has had it tuff. So please stop trying to patronize me, walk a mile in my shoe!!!!!

If you are over 50 I'm sure you've seen more than your share of wrong stinson....
...I'm not even trying to say nothing bad happened to black people here.
...My family came from Norway - we never owned any slaves - we never supported any of that.
...You would be well served to remember not everyone white fit into character roles in Roots.

He won't you'll see. Elohim put kings/presidents in place and only He when He chooses to takes them down. It is to serve His person so that His Son will saved those with pure hearts. I'll talk by PM to you give me a holler.

You can count on it.

No you did not but some qurky lies and put a picture of a woman that was not an ape but had a disease. It was sick, disgusting and needed to be removed.

What I quoted was from the science books of that time period....
...A list of the who's who of the Naturalists of that day.
...As well as the SDA Pioneers and Ellen White QUOTING THEM.

You refer to the "Victorian Ape woman" ( Julia Pastrana )...
...I know she had a terrible disease - the whole point was that it was believed.
...That her mother had been bred subsequent to being sexually overpowered by some unknown ape.
...And Julia was said product of the un-natural union.

You can't say I'm making it up when the SDA Pioneers claim the reason for Julia was the breaking of God's commandment and specifically mention the Biblical negative of a woman presenting herself to a beast for union.

I watch the video of both Mike Zullo, Sheriff Joe Arpaio's (the one who is been investigated himself) investigator. Zullo's co-author is Jerome Corsi is certainly making quick money off you folks. With the new e-book out for sale he laughing alway to the bank. He also bragging about as well it is all over the web.

I'm pretty sure there will be more to come on that...
..In fact I'm positive.

Hum! Pot calling the kettle black when you are too. You did not respond to anything I said about Romney. The great Mormon occult lovers today. The less of the two evils right. Get President Obama out by any mean necessary. So you all sold your souls to the Devil because that what you all claim that the Mormans are an occult right!

Yes Mormonism is a cult - no argument from me on that....
..I still feel he would be a far better President then what we've had these last 4 years.

Finally unless you have some wax in your ear. The Ambassador of Kenyan did not say at all that President Obama was born in Kenya. Lie and Fake. Tell you what Python why don't you and I write him a letter directly and see what he writes back ok, I'm game are you?

Blessings,
stinsonmarri

Do you believe that he will deny that is his voice on the Radio interview...
...Do you not believe that was actually him stinsonmarri?

 

[Pythons]

Stinsonmarri, Happy Mother's Day to you!

 

[reddogs]

Interesting that I can't have a negative opinion against Obama without being racist, I guess he can only be critiqued by those of African decent...

you sound like the Zionists, who accuse anyone that criticizes the actions of Israel as anti-semitic.

Well I have everything in my family line, so I guess I can criticize just about everyone, Oops except for Italians....dont want to get the anyone from my wifes NY neighborhood all riled up....

 

[stinsonmarri]

Stinsonmarri, Happy Mother's Day to you!

Python thank you very much. I am sorry that I am just getting back. I hope u understand that I have a mother and I was celebrating with her and her children my sibblings. I also need to apologize for the name calling even if I do not agree with you. I get to emotional sometime and that is not an excuse. I must do better please pray for me and my stupid temper.

I have one son but he has five children. They are all together and he raises them with his lovely wife.

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[stinsonmarri]

Python You said and I responded:​

Was going to marry one of them but she had another idea..
...She opted out - wanted to continue to party and run wild.

...I reached a point in my life that wasn't going to continue to work for me. In any event the fact is that I married a "minority" and have remained so for 15 years. That's a long shot away from your supposed affirmations of my intentions.​

Well I was wrong and I am sorry and I was judgmental.​

Just like I already told you - you're playing a professioinal victim. But since you want to get specific allow me to help you.

Please tell me what professional victim mean? I stand on what is reality.

Mongoloid / Negroid / Caucasoid / Australoid.​

I do not agree with this at all. This is Indo-European concept and not Biblical. Gen Chapter 10 and not man various "oid." Act 10:34

Most people who associate themselves as "black" actually fit into the Caucasoid classification. Of course this causes great stress to some.

Association is not factual but what a person have been trained to identify with. Examples are constantly seeing everyone white like Jesus, Egyptians, Ancient Hebrews, ancient Biblical people which is not correct. Yashua was not white and the Egyptians were black, neither were the Hebrews and many of the ancient people in the Bible. That is why I myself realize that I was from Afrikan descent but associating my culture as Indo-European. My hair is curly and I do not need to process it at all. I am how YAHWEH designed me and show me in the Bible. My hair is not nappy and I am not the N word but a child of the King! I am not a sham of my heritage or my Afrikan culture. However, because of association in this country it has and still is a problem. Do I hate because of it, no! But I shall stand up and call sin because it is a sin to deny who you are akin to. The Indo-European has taken every nationality and attempted to make them all look like them. That is why it is so easy for you to accept a Latter Day Saint because they teach this in the book of Mormon!

Right, and just how well you know me and what I've done and not done in my life. My guess here is that you are still miffed because I proved that Ellen White affirmed. That great Anthropoid Apes hybridized with Afriacan Females to produce Amalgamated species of man. The man-apes of legend and lore.

This not true and I was upset with you because you had an innocent Mexican woman who had a disease. You were making a mockery of her and that was WRONG! You know nothing about species and amalgamation. Yes there was genetic modification done to animals and man. Genetic modification (many want to claim were myths) like the dinosaurs, mermaids, centaurs, Cyclops, and even Lucy (that was recently found) were all done by the antediluvian man. Rom 1:17-20​

That's your problem - not mine.​

I have no problem but just facts and not wishful thinking.

My Son is dating a black girl - they might just get married.
...My Aunt is married to a black man and in my family two others are married to black men. You really need to stop watching re-runs of Roots Stinson.

I apologized earlier but what does Roots have to do with this? You need to stop putting everything you think you know into one pot and stop assuming on what I have said. I never mention Roots and don't need too because it has nothing to do with this point at this time.​

I've been escorted out of night clubs in Ga because I made the mistake of going into them. I've had my girlfriend cat called by groups of black men and been threatened by them many times. So yeah, I know what it feels like to be hated because of the color of your skin.

Oh no you don't now that is not going to fly with being black and feeling what we have felt far more than just that. You can have empathy and understanding but not go through the experience. You were hated but not only because you were white. It was because you were dating a black woman. You see the white man alway dated the black woman and nothing happen to him in the past. But a black man had to hid and do it if he got caught he was lynch. Now that's a whole lot different. Let me say this as well hatred of white's is just as wrong and I do not accept that as well. It's a little difference being force to come here and choosing to come to this country. Roots only told the story of one man's journey, my great, great parents had that journey as well. My brother in law is white and I love him. But his parent deceive us and truly mistreated my sister.​

Look, I'm happy for you - You want to help blacks and other minorities then get to cracking....​

...On the evils of Planned Parenthood - you know the group that loves to hack babies out of black mothers.
...You know the group Obama appears to STRONGLY support.

That's not true and stop patronizing me. Planned Parenthood does more than abortions and I will not force my beliefs on others. It also helps white people too Python. This country is supposed to be base on freedom of liberty and the pursuit of happiness Python. President Kennedy was Catholic and a Democrat and he believe the same as President Obama. I do not believe in everything he politically stands for base on my faith. However, I believe in justice and a free society for all and allowing all to make their own choice. Like what Joshua told Israel in his day to choose whom to serve! You do not agree with SDA or I agree with your religion. Politic is not about religion when it does as you and the Republican Party religious conservative wants, then it will become a persecuting power! As the Roman Catholic did during the Inquisition you are attempting to do today. Muslims, Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, Mormons, Atheist, Satan worshipers such as witches, palm readers, warlocks and all other types of religion, live in the USA. You cannot oppose you religious views on these people, but you can treat each one right and respect how they believe. That's what President Obama, Clinton, Reagan, and other Presidents stood for. You have to compromise in politic but not with your faith on an individual level. You are no different than Osama bin Laden who he wanted all to accept his Muslim beliefs. All Muslims do not believe the same as do all Protestants and other religions that have different sects. Did you read that Yashua took up the sword and killed anyone? When the time comes I pray that you and I will be on the right side and then Yashua will fight our battle. Then all will have to make a choice let's just be on the right side by faith through Yashua.​

Happy Sabbath,​

stinsonmarri

PS: I did not continue looking at the post because I thought it was just video. Please remove the lady from your post. I do not want to report you again. We can speak about anything with out insulting anyone, I beg you. The videos are only certain white people unfactual view who you choose to accept their ideology that I find is not factual. I do not agree and that's all to it. You still have not responded about Romney also interesting.

 

[stinsonmarri]

Well I have everything in my family line, so I guess I can criticize just about everyone, Oops except for Italians....dont want to get the anyone from my wifes NY neighborhood all riled up....

Redog that was good and funny!!!!

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

 

[Pythons]

Python thank you very much. I am sorry that I am just getting back. I hope u understand that I have a mother and I was celebrating with her and her children my sibblings. I also need to apologize for the name calling even if I do not agree with you. I get to emotional sometime and that is not an excuse. I must do better please pray for me and my stupid temper.

I have one son but he has five children. They are all together and he raises them with his lovely wife.

Happy Sabbath,
stinsonmarri

No need to apologize Sinsonmarri, if you didn't really believe what you believe....
...What fun would there be in hanging out in an internet forum trying to convince the other person.
...I'm thick skinned and no harm no foul - us Catholics are tough.
...But thanks for saying sorry - You did nothing for me to have to forgive you for.