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Why nonexistence of God is an impossibility

toLiJC

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That doesn't make Christianity true, nor is that statement objectively true. Have you actually read the scriptures of every other religion? Can you provide evidence to support that statement?

let's see, the quran is actually a return to the old covenant with its imperfect ordinances for: rendering evil for evil, stoning to death, dereliction, disregard, etc. which God already annulled by His only begotten firstborn Son Jesus Christ Who nailed them before 2 millennia

Matthew 5:38- "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil(i.e. do not render evil for evil unto any human): but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also(i.e. but if any person treats you badly, treat it well)...",

John 8:3-11 "the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not(i.e. in order to remind them about the Ten Commandments which the true God has written by His Finger). So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her(i.e. can any believer be sinless if it violates any of the Ten Commandments of God Himself?! - in that case the Commandment was: "thou shalt not kill" which Jesus wrote on the ground in front of them). And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground(i.e. and He continued to write "thou shalt not kill" with His finger on the ground, because they interrupted Him in mid-sentence). And they which heard it(i.e. and when they understood what He alluded), being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more(i.e. and it would be good that you also keep the Ten Commandments).",

John 12:31-32 "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out(i.e. now all the inner/domestic power of the devil will permanently be destroyed). And I, if(i.e. and when) I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.",

John 14:30 "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world(i.e. the wicked) cometh, and hath nothing in me.",

Matthew 27:50-56 "Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom(i.e. all imperfect/inimical ordinances in the God's covenant/testament have been completely annulled); and the earth did quake(i.e. and the powers did shake), and the rocks rent(i.e. and all the inner/domestic power of the devil has been permanently removed/destroyed); And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many(note: because when the devil had that power in the Heaven, it was able therewith to hold their bodies unresurrected in the graves). Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.",

Colossians 2:14-15 "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances(i.e. annulling the satanic part of the ordinances in the God's covenant/testament) that was against us(i.e. which was prejudicial to the people), which was contrary to us(i.e. which was adverse to us), and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers(i.e. and having denounced the unrighteous spiritual/religious systems and powers), he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."

as for the vedas, they are even worse than the quran, because the vedic creed dooms every souls of the universe to pass through millions of animal and human (re)births and billions of afflictions, but here is how it was said that there is no karma and samsara:

John 9:1-7 "And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but(i.e. but in our case) that the works of God should be made manifest in him(i.e. because now we are here). I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.",

Hebrews 9:24-28 "Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

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I particularly like the passages about beating your slaves half-dead, not sparing the rod with your kids and eradicating entire populations. Also Isaac´s fake execution. There some more nuggets of spiritual advice concerning the entirely good treatment of your neighbour with no one suffering. :thumbsup:

there are many biblical words and phrases whose meaning is very special and cannot be found in the dictionaries, however, the devil had an inner/domestic power in the time before the New Testament whereby it was able to manifest as a part of God and (to) inculcate imperfect ordinances in the minds of many then worshipers, moreover it manifested as a part of Jehovah and inculcated the inimical ordinances such as "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth", "stone the harlot", etc. in the old covenant, but the true God, the Heavenly Father, and His Son, Jesus Christ, have completely and permanently destroyed the inner/domestic power of the devil that it had in the Heaven, and They have also annulled all the inimical ordinances of the covenant/testament - for reference see my previous post above

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let's see, the quran is actually a return to the old covenant with its imperfect ordinances for: rendering evil for evil, stoning to death, dereliction, disregard, etc. which God already annulled by His only begotten firstborn Son Jesus Christ Who nailed them before 2 millennia

So what? You haven't proven that the old covenant is no longer valid because you haven't shown that the bible is true. You're going back in circles again.
 
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So what? You haven't proven that the old covenant is no longer valid because you haven't shown that the bible is true. You're going back in circles again.

you till now were always in opposition as if you just want to waste your time as well as mine in vain, here is a proof:

Hebrews 8:7-13 "if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah(i.e. with the righteous and religious people): Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

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you till now were always in opposition as if you just want to waste your time as well as mine in vain,

what? :confused:

here is a proof:
Hebrews 8:7-13 "if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah(i.e. with the righteous and religious people): Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

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This is not proof unless you prove that the bible is true.
 
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Christian God gives a lot teaching to human. That is functional.

What does the Weak Force god teach human about the Weak Force? If nothing, then why do we need this god? Why is this Weak Force god not redundant?

The God of the Weak Force teaches us about the Weak Force, through which he reveals himself, and by which we may come to know him.
 
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The God of the Weak Force teaches us about the Weak Force, through which he reveals himself, and by which we may come to know him.

1. You did not say this god can teach.
2. Assume he can, then how does this god teach? (Did we learn what we currently know about the Weak Force through his teaching?)
3. Does this god teach anything else?
4. Anything else you did not say about this god?
5. Do not forget you have another three gods there. Why do you need four of them? Does the god of Weak force know nothing about the Strong Force?

I can see you are getting yourself into a theological mess.
 
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1. You did not say this god can teach.
2. Assume he can, then how does this god teach? (Did we learn what we currently know about the Weak Force through his teaching?)
3. Does this god teach anything else?
4. Anything else you did not say about this god?
5. Do not forget you have another three gods there. Why do you need four of them? Does the god of Weak force know nothing about the Strong Force?

I can see you are getting yourself into a theological mess.

Oh juvenissun, you and your atheistic ways! ^_^ Each of the Four is necessary for it is through their interaction that everything is created, from the smallest particles to the grandest galaxies. They shape it all, and we learn about the Four from their creation. Creation, which includes the Four Forces, is the strongest evidence for the existence of the Four Creators.
 
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Oh juvenissun, you and your atheistic ways! ^_^ Each of the Four is necessary for it is through their interaction that everything is created, from the smallest particles to the grandest galaxies. They shape it all, and we learn about the Four from their creation. Creation, which includes the Four Forces, is the strongest evidence for the existence of the Four Creators.

Answer me: Why four? Why not just one?
 
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Oh juvenissun, you and your atheistic ways! ^_^ Each of the Four is necessary for it is through their interaction that everything is created, from the smallest particles to the grandest galaxies. They shape it all, and we learn about the Four from their creation. Creation, which includes the Four Forces, is the strongest evidence for the existence of the Four Creators.

Talk about atheism, you are not as good as me either.
 
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toLiJC said:
the Bible is the only original spiritual writing(s) that reveal(s) the entirely good treatment towards the neighbors(cohabitants) so that no one might suffer/perish

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there are many biblical words and phrases whose meaning is very special and cannot be found in the dictionaries,

:sigh:
 
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juvenissun

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Because there are four fundamental forces, and these are responsible for everything we see today.

I guess you do not have intention to continue this discussion. It is about the time to quit.
Otherwise, answer the harder question.
 
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I guess you do not have intention to continue this discussion. It is about the time to quit.
Otherwise, answer the harder question.

Which one was the harder question? I think I did answer it. Creation provides evidence for the Four Gods. We need four because there are four fundamental forces.
 
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Which one was the harder question? I think I did answer it. Creation provides evidence for the Four Gods. We need four because there are four fundamental forces.

What's wrong to have only one?
 
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Wait a minute. Isn't God supposed to be 3 gods in one. You know the trinity. Why not a quaternar? God. A quad God. Why not 7 or 10 or 20?

"Monotheism" means there is a limit of 3. Theistic math.
 
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