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No, it was a joke, maybe not a particularly funny one, but a few posts before that AV bought up the endless genealogies quote in reference to common descent. I am perfectly aware of what Paul was talking about thanks.
Good job at sucking the humour out it though.
Yes, but you replied to my reply to him.I didn't use the term Spiritual Quotient. That was another poster!
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So are you the expert in ToE (theory of evolution).
Are you accusing me of being an ignoramus about ToE?
Didn't sound like humour to me. It was more like spoofing at AV.
Since there is no purpose in the universe and human beings (what you are suggesting), then it's OK for Hitler to enact the slaughter in the Holocaust, the terrorists to smash aeroplanes into the twin towers on Sept 11, 2001, for paedophiles to rape children, etc.
Nope.
I don't know if you're ignorant or just deliberately creating strawmen - either way humans did not evolve from chimpanzees.
Are you suggesting that the terrorists who flew the aeroplanes into the twin towers on 11 September 2001 were atheists or that they thought that there was no purpose in the universe and human beings?
How did human beings evolve, according to the Smithsonian article promoting evolution. It states:
Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. Scientific evidence shows that the physical and behavioral traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors and evolved over a period of approximately six million years....
Humans are primates. Physical and genetic similarities show that the modern human species, Homo sapiens, has a very close relationship to another group of primate species, the apes. Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. Humans first evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa (What does it mean to be human? Smithsonian, emphasis added)
I presented no straw man fallacy. The evolutionary establishment agrees with what I wrote.
Please direct me to a fossil of a transition species between a chimpanzee and a human being.
He got you with that one. Those are not transitional between chimpanzee and human. Now he'll probably hang you out as his poster boy for evolution denial. You may want to clarify what you showed and make clear how it does not support his position that we are descended from chimpanzees.You could try Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Orrorin tugenensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus africanus, and Australopithecus sediba. Google any of these, and you will find pictures of their fossils, as well as a great deal of other information.
Of course, these are not transition species in the sense that they are descended from modern chimpanzees, although some of these species may be directly ancestral to human beings (genus Homo). However, they are closer to the common ancestor of chimpanzees and humans than we are, and they are more closely related to us than to chimpanzees. In particular, Sahelanthropus and Orrorin are probably closely related to the true common ancestor of chimpanzees and humans.
I have downloaded images of the skeletons of Australopithecus sediba (left and right hand skeletons of left-hand image) and of Australopithecus afarensis (middle skeleton) and the skull of Sahelanthropus tchadensis.
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You could try Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Orrorin tugenensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus africanus, and Australopithecus sediba. Google any of these, and you will find pictures of their fossils, as well as a great deal of other information.
Of course, these are not transition species in the sense that they are descended from modern chimpanzees, although some of these species may be directly ancestral to human beings (genus Homo). However, they are closer to the common ancestor of chimpanzees and humans than we are, and they are more closely related to us than to chimpanzees. In particular, Sahelanthropus and Orrorin are probably closely related to the true common ancestor of chimpanzees and humans.
I have downloaded images of the skeletons of Australopithecus sediba (left and right hand skeletons of left-hand image) and of Australopithecus afarensis (middle skeleton) and the skull of Sahelanthropus tchadensis.
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I asked for an example of a transition species from chimpanzees to human beings. What did you do? You gave me nothing more than your presuppositions: 'Some of these species may be directly ancestral to human beings (genus Homo)'. That is your guess of 'may be'.
That's an evolutionary presupposition driving your assertion. You are ducking and weaving because there is NO fossil evidence that clearly demonstrates evolutionary transition species from ape-like beings to human beings.
So what do you plan to do with your beliefs, down there in Oz? In this country, the scheme is to replace science in the public schools with YECism and impose fundamentalist Protestant prayer and Bible study on all students, regardless of faith. There is a substantial political agenda as well--for more particulars, google Judge Roy Moore.We can debate here over and over but you are not going to drop your evolutionary presupposition (with a lot of guess work) and I'm not going to swap 'in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth' (Gen 1:1) for your evolutionary 'probably closely related'.
So what do you plan to do with your beliefs, down there in Oz? In this country, the scheme is to replace science in the public schools with YECism and impose fundamentalist Protestant prayer and Bible study on all students, regardless of faith. There is a substantial political agenda as well--for more particulars, google Judge Roy Moore.
I don't know that much about Australia or how some of Creationists' favorite notions would play there. Recriminalize homosexuality? Relax or rescind gun control laws? Reinstate the death penalty?
Just curiosity.What's the title of this thread? Why are you not addressing the OP?
Doesn't that strike you as odd that it is called the Bible Belt, yet it is infested with creationists?I've lived in the "Bible Belt" here--that is, where creationists are most heavily concentrated ...
What's the title of this thread? Why are you not addressing the OP?
Would you recognize it if we did?Well said! Why are no creationists presenting any evidence?
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