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you.Who said they did?
Worthless to who? They self evidently not worthless to an awful lot of people.
The fact that you're asking this shows it.
We wouldn't be here if Adam had nothing to eat.
As Adam Clarke put it:
It appears that God created every thing, not only perfect as it respects its nature, but also in a state of maturity, so that every vegetable production appeared at once in full growth; and this was necessary that man, when he came into being, might find every thing ready for his use.
What would impress or convince you guys?Assumed conclusions are not particularly impressive or convincing as an argument.
Does not prove anything since you are guessing. To be fair there was no common ancestor in the first place. It is all fiction with no more basis in reality then winged Pegasis. The link was provided and i could add to them. Your link show an anonymous person. We don't know who he is or his medical history. It is not subject to scrutiny or independent investigation. It is all faith. No where near convincing. From the previous link.
For the sake of argument, let us assume that evolutionists are correct and a distant human ancestor with 48 chromosomes did evolve into a new species with 46 chromosomes via the chromosome 2 fusion event. Did this event occur in a single individual or simultaneously in an entire population? Mutations of this nature are certainly rare, but they do occur occasionally. However, the probability that this mutation would occur simultaneously in multiple individuals is so staggeringly low that we can assume its impossibility. At best, the mutation occurred in a single individual. How then was it propagated from one individual to his or her offspring and eventually to every human? Chromosomal rearrangements of this nature are not easily passed to offspring. When mutations of this magnitude occur, they pose serious problems for an organism when the process of gamete production occurs. Gametes are the egg and sperm cells used to form a new individual during sexual reproduction. The process of generating gametes is a special form of cell division known as meiosis. During this process, a specific alignment of chromosomal pairs always occurs and is essential for meiosis. This alignment is dependent on the near-identical structure and sequence of chromosomal pairs. If an individual carries a mutation such as a chromosomal fusion, then he or she will often be unable to produce gametes, because meiosis will fail to occur properly due to improper alignment of the now non-identical chromosome pairs. Today, we know chromosomal fusion to be one cause of infertility. In some cases, meiosis can find a way to complete despite non-identical chromosomal pairs. However, the gametes that result, or the offspring produced by fertilization with these gametes, usually have a short lifespan due to genetic problems. Problems associated with chromosomal alignment lead to spontaneous miscarriages and genetic abnormalities such as Down’s Syndrome.
A third problem with the hypothesis of a chromosomal fusion in human ancestry lies in the complete absence of humans with 48 chromosomes. If it were true that a chromosomal split occurred in human evolution, then two distinct human groups would have been generated: one containing 48 chromosomes which were not altered by any genetic change, and a second containing 46 chromosomes including the fusion of chromosome 2
What would impress or convince you guys?
Dying on a cross and coming back to life?
For the sake of argument, let us assume that evolutionists are correct and a distant human ancestor with 48 chromosomes did evolve into a new species with 46 chromosomes via the chromosome 2 fusion event. Did this event occur in a single individual or simultaneously in an entire population? Mutations of this nature are certainly rare, but they do occur occasionally. However, the probability that this mutation would occur simultaneously in multiple individuals is so staggeringly low that we can assume its impossibility. At best, the mutation occurred in a single individual. How then was it propagated from one individual to his or her offspring and eventually to every human? Chromosomal rearrangements of this nature are not easily passed to offspring. When mutations of this magnitude occur, they pose serious problems for an organism when the process of gamete production occurs. Gametes are the egg and sperm cells used to form a new individual during sexual reproduction. The process of generating gametes is a special form of cell division known as meiosis. During this process, a specific alignment of chromosomal pairs always occurs and is essential for meiosis. This alignment is dependent on the near-identical structure and sequence of chromosomal pairs. If an individual carries a mutation such as a chromosomal fusion, then he or she will often be unable to produce gametes, because meiosis will fail to occur properly due to improper alignment of the now non-identical chromosome pairs. Today, we know chromosomal fusion to be one cause of infertility. In some cases, meiosis can find a way to complete despite non-identical chromosomal pairs. However, the gametes that result, or the offspring produced by fertilization with these gametes, usually have a short lifespan due to genetic problems. Problems associated with chromosomal alignment lead to spontaneous miscarriages and genetic abnormalities such as Down’s Syndrome.
A third problem with the hypothesis of a chromosomal fusion in human ancestry lies in the complete absence of humans with 48 chromosomes. If it were true that a chromosomal split occurred in human evolution, then two distinct human groups would have been generated: one containing 48 chromosomes which were not altered by any genetic change, and a second containing 46 chromosomes including the fusion of chromosome 2
Well, that was nice and specific.Verifiable evidence
Why don't you just impress us all by pulling out all that conclusive scientific evidence for a common ancestor between apes and man. That magical nonhuman creature?
No, but you don't see me demanding evidence either.Were you there?
Debunking the Debunkers | Answers in Genesis
In 2013, it was shown that the alleged interstitial telomeric repeat site of the human chromosome 2 fusion corresponding to chimpanzee chromosomes 2A and 2B of a hypothetical common ancestor was actually a second promoter in the DDX11L2 long noncoding RNA gene.
Additional ENCODE related data are provided in this report that not only debunk evolutionary criticism and obfuscation in response to this discovery, but solidify the original finding. New data come from epigenetic-modifications, transcription factor binding, and transcription start site information. It is also shown that the alleged cryptic centromere site, which is very short in length compared to a normal centromere, is completely situated inside the actively expressed protein coding gene ANKRD30BL—encoding both exon and intron regions. Other factors refuting this region as a cryptic centromere are also discussed. Taken together, genomic data for both the alleged fusion and cryptic centromere sites refute the concept of fusion in a human-chimpanzee common ancestor.
I've given examples of what I would consider to be an indisputable miracle, my favorite example being a single physical text that anyone can read, even the illiterate, and get the same message out of. I don't mean symbolically, as a text that had been translated into many languages, I mean as a singular physical book. It need not have any profound message within it, it could be a bad recipe for chocolate pie for all I care.What would impress or convince you guys?
Dying on a cross and coming back to life?
How do you know?
You mean a singular text, written in a language that all nations and tongues can understand, without going through a translator?I've given examples of what I would consider to be an indisputable miracle, my favorite example being a single physical text that anyone can read, even the illiterate, and get the same message out of. I don't mean symbolically, as a text that had been translated into many languages, I mean as a singular physical book.
Human design, yes. Thalidomide actually had/has a number of uses. The unfortunate side effects during fetal development do not detract from its other legitimate uses.And Thalidomide is an example of intelligent design?
Bingo!No, but you don't see me demanding evidence either.
Evidence is for sane, reasonable people, who seek to know reality.Evidence is for sissies who are lame and can't walk by faith.
And ignorance is perennial.And speaking of sissies, pansies bloom in the summer and winter, don't they?
Intelligent Design is a joke.Of course, that humans design things should never be used as an analogy to the Intelligent Design put forth by shady creationists.
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