Why Modern Jubilee Prophesies are Wrong!

[Dave Watchman]

A Jewish scholar by the name of Benedict Zuckermann researched the 2nd temple period, and the writings of the Maccabees and Josephus, pinning about five separate Sabbath examples. From these ‘anchor’ dates the Shemitah has been accurately tracked,

I don't trust Jewish scholars or the Jews themselves for information on the Jubilee calendar. I've seen Hasidic Rabbis not able to correctly count off Jubilee cycles. When Jesus ate the last supper there were two Passovers celebrated. The correct one observed by Jesus and His disciples, the erroneous Passover was celebrated by the Jews. At the time of the crucifixion, the Jews had already lost track of where Passover was and were using the Roman calendar. If the Jews had the correct ‘anchor’ dates then why did they observe an incorrect Passover during the Holy week.

So, AD 27 was the LORD's Jubilee.

I disagree with AD 27 being the 50th year of Jubilee. I don't think that was what Jesus was talking about here.

It's doesn't really even sound logical for them to go through all the trouble just for Jesus to sit down and be handed a scroll and to "proclaim the 50th year of Jubilee". Was that what He was there for at the start of His ministry? To announce the 50th year of the super shemitah? I doubt it.

"To preach the acceptable year of the Lord" in Luke 4:19 sounds more like: “Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.” in 2 Corinthians 6:2. He was just saying that then was the time for the Jews to act and accept their Messiah. Because look at the next verse after the comma where Jesus stopped at in Isaiah 61: "and the day of vengeance of our God;". The old time Jews were living right at the comma in the valley of decision.

AD 33 was the 10th Jubilee year since the start of the 70 weeks in 457 BC. AD 33 was also the 30th Jubilee since 1437 BC. Since 1437 BC until AD 1993 there have been 7 complete sets of 70 weeks. This is tough to explain with text alone.

As soon as Gabriel told Daniel "70 weeks" are decreed, he was talking about a block of time that had to come from the Jubilee calendar. This couldn't be just any arbitrary 490 years that could begin with any random year. Otherwise Gabriel would have just said 490 years are decreed for your people. Each of the 70 heptads had to begin in a Sunday year (year 1) and conclude with a Sabbath year (year 7). Each of the seven years of the week being represented by days within the week.

Of the various historical decrees made to rebuild Jerusalem, only the Artaxerxes decree of 457 BC is found to begin in the Sunday year or year one of the cycle. Not only would it seem illogical to begin the 70 weeks in the middle of a week, it would also lose it's synchrony with the year of the Exodus. Counting the heptads in reverse will connect with Biblical dating of the reign of King Hezekiah. Isaiah 37:30 can also show alignment with the observation of an ancient Sabbatical year.

The Jubilee count ended with Messiahs arrival.

I doubt that's possible. It's like saying that the 70 weeks ended in the middle of the 70th week.
Many have understood that the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 had to be translated into 490 literal years. The Jubilee calendar is where we get the translation of prophetic time, not from Ezekiel laying on his side for 390 days. When the Jubilee calendar is in operation, 1260 days becomes 1260 years. Because the 2300 evenings and mornings from Daniel 8 doesn't work as literal days if it is correctly measured from 457 BC, the Jubilee calendar has to extend to at least AD 1844. The problem now arises due to the fact that there are still unfulfilled prophetic time periods, like the 1260 days from Revelation 11, that won't work if they are translated.

The scholars that I follow point to the Jubilee calendar concluding in the spring of 1994 at the end of 7 sets of 70 weeks that start when God began giving the Jubilee calendar information to Moses 2 weeks before the Exodus.

I recommend, for those interested, this PDF page of the Jubilee calendar made by Larry Wilson. It is very large to view on a computer screen but seems slightly better if the file is saved and viewed with your PDF program and not in the browser window.

In this screen shot you can just make out 457 BC at the start of Jubilee cycle 21 in the upper left and the conclusion of Jubilee cycle 30 in the lower right corner in AD 33.

https://www.wake-up.org/charts/Jubileev7view.pdf

I also recommend these two videos by Larry Wilson on the Jubilee calendar parts 10 and 11, they have an excellent amount of data.

I don't think that this subject should trouble anyone if they don't understand it. I don't think that anyone should feel like they're missing out if they haven't got the latest book that's for sale. The best selling Book of all time is free of charge.

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1,993 = <---JUBILEE YEAR

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2,042 = <---JUBILEE YEAR

 

[Gideon]

Hi Dave,
Im familiar with Larry Wilson's teaching on this subject and I think he has a lot of good stuff. Im in complete agreement that the 70th week extended from AD27 to (end) AD33 as your diagram shows. However, I think he makes a mistake assuming that Jubilees occurred at the end of the 70th week. It came at the beginning of the 70th week.

By misunderstanding this small point, Larry has had to date the Exodus from Egypt seven years later than when the Bible said. (1437BC instead of 1444BC) Having said that, I do agree that Daniels 490-year cycle was not the only one. Here is a diagram that shows these cycles from Moses to Christ.

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[civilwarbuff]

Hi Dave,
Im familiar with Larry Wilson's teaching on this subject and I think he has a lot of good stuff. Im in complete agreement that the 70th week extended from AD27 to (end) AD33 as your diagram shows. However, I think he makes a mistake assuming that Jubilees occurred at the end of the 70th week. It came at the beginning of the 70th week.

By misunderstanding this small point, Larry has had to date the Exodus from Egypt seven years later than when the Bible said. (1437BC instead of 1444BC) Having said that, I do agree that Daniels 490-year cycle was not the only one. Here is a diagram that shows these cycles from Moses to Christ.

And if the left hair goes to the left instead of the right hair going to the right it changes everything......

 

[ObamaWoodHollyWood]

Should Christians be worried about Jubilee? I dont mean as opposed to Jews but in addition.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Hi Gideon,

However, I think he makes a mistake assuming that Jubilees occurred at the end of the 70th week. It came at the beginning of the 70th week.

As I understand it, the Jubilee at the end of the 70th week is not just an assumption. AD 27 was only the 43rd year of the 30th Jubilee cycle. AD 33 of Daniel's 70th week was the 49th year of the 30th cycle making AD 34 the 50th Jubilee year AND year one of the next Jubilee cycle.

Counting backwards for 3 sets of 70 weeks will put us right at 1437 BC the year of the Exodus.

Counting forward from 1444 will only seem to put us out of whack.

Larry is a very nice guy, when I've contacted him he answers back right away. I've also spoken to another person who has done unique work with the Jubilee calendar. This person is much more intense, and insistent that something is about to happen with a sense of imminence. The work uses the entrance into Canaan as a starting point. I'm not too sure about it but based on the intensity of the individual, it's a bit disconcerting.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Hi Gideon,



As I understand it, the Jubilee at the end of the 70th week is not just an assumption. AD 27 was only the 43rd year of the 30th Jubilee cycle. AD 33 of Daniel's 70th week was the 49th year of the 30th cycle making AD 34 the 50th Jubilee year AND year one of the next Jubilee cycle.

Counting backwards for 3 sets of 70 weeks will put us right at 1437 BC the year of the Exodus.

Counting forward from 1444 will only seem to put us out of whack.

Larry is a very nice guy, when I've contacted him he answers back right away. I've also spoken to another person who has done unique work with the Jubilee calendar. This person is much more intense, and insistent that something is about to happen with a sense of imminence. The work uses the entrance into Canaan as a starting point. I'm not too sure about it but based on the intensity of the individual, it's a bit disconcerting.

And again....

And if the left hair goes to the left instead of the right hair going to the right it changes everything......

 

[Dave Watchman]

Should Christians be worried about Jubilee? I dont mean as opposed to Jews but in addition.

I don't think that this subject should trouble anyone if they don't understand it. I don't think that anyone should feel like they're missing out if they haven't got the latest book that's for sale. The best selling Book of all time is free of charge.

If anything does happen:

The Lord will uphold us with His righteous right hand.

 

[Dave Watchman]

And if the left hair goes to the left instead of the right hair going to the right it changes everything......

I wouldn't go to that extreme but I know what you mean. I once saw two luminaries of the Jubilee calendar in a heated public debate over whether the calendar ended in 1993 or 1994. I think that they both got hung up on calculating for the "zero" year.

 

[Gideon]

Hi Gideon,
Counting backwards for 3 sets of 70 weeks will put us right at 1437 BC the year of the Exodus.

The date of the Exodus is given to us in 1Kings 6:1. It says:

In the four hundred and eightieth year after the people of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, he began to build the house of the LORD.
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Solomon’s fourth year was 964 BC. So, adding 480 arrives at 1444 BC when the people of Israel came out of Egypt. 1437 BC is the date that is out of whack.

Larry is a very nice guy, when I've contacted him he answers back right away.

Yes, he has a nice style

 

[Gideon]

Reason #3 - The Jubilee count was not meant to be extended past Messiah!

As I said earlier, the only reason Ive counted the Shemitah and Jubilees to our present century, was to prove that this year could not have been a Jubilee. If it was, the ‘sensation brigade’ would say, “Well, nothing happened during the blood moons, but something BIG will happen between Sept 2015 and Sept 2016, because it’s the Jubilee.” Well, it is not!

More importantly, we as Christians are not even supposed to be following the Shemitah anyway. Its whole purpose was to count down to Messiah, and its fulfilment is the liberty that we find in Christ. Yes, it is true that the Jews still follow the Shemitah, but only out of tradition. It is not going anywhere like it did before - certainly not to the 2nd coming of Christ. His 1st coming is what it’s all about, and the systematic count of ‘sevens’ converge with amazing precision to the sacrifice of Christ.

I can understand why Jewish scholars avoid the implications of the Jubilee count, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why more Christians have not explored it through the Bible. It counts like clockwork from Moses to Jesus, the anointed one.

 

[Gideon]

Why not wait until September 2015 ends

Bump! We waited for the blood moon predictions, and nothing happened!

And guess what? A batch of new books are now appearing. They are making new predictions based on their false projections of the Jubilee year. It is such a pity, because the Jubilee (and Shemitah) are a powerful countdown to the first appearing of Jesus Messiah.

 

[Echolipse]

Bump! We waited for the blood moon predictions, and nothing happened!

And guess what? A batch of new books are now appearing. They are making new predictions based on their false projections of the Jubilee year. It is such a pity, because the Jubilee (and Shemitah) are a powerful countdown to the first appearing of Jesus Messiah.

Wait, seriously? They're just jumping onto the next possibility rather than reading the bible and knowing we can't set dates?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Bump! We waited for the blood moon predictions, and nothing happened!

And guess what? A batch of new books are now appearing. They are making new predictions based on their false projections of the Jubilee year. It is such a pity, because the Jubilee (and Shemitah) are a powerful countdown to the first appearing of Jesus Messiah.

I have continually said stop buying the books, DVD's,and stop running to the conferences. They only fill the pockets of people who know no more than we know.

 

[BABerean2]

I have continually said stop buying the books, DVD's,and stop running to the conferences. They only fill the pockets of people who know no more than we know.

Go to Amazon or another source and buy a copy of "The Atonement Clock" by Christian Gedge, and you will have something that will allow you and your friends to learn something about the Bible timeline.

I let a friend of mine borrow a copy. He is a mechanical engineer and a deacon in his church body.
When he returned it to me he said... "Wow".

I have told several people that if they get the book and do not like it, I will pay them the purchase price for their book.
So far no one has asked for my money.

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[Jon Anon]

September 23 2015 wasn't the end of the 49 years it was the beginning. The final blood moon hadn't even happened yet
When you count for example 2 prophetic years you start at 0 and go to 360(1 year) then you continue 1 year and one day one year and 2 days...etc.

If the count started June 7 1967 the 49th prophetic year started september 23(day of atonement) and then 49 years and one day... 49 years and 2 days..until you get to the full 360 days coming to the 50th year...50 years and 1 day...50 years and 2 days...etc

 

[Jon Anon]

September 23 2015 was the beginning of the full 49 years which started the count to watch for the "anointed commander" that is to come 49 years after june 7 1967...everybody who calculated the 49 years started at 1 year instead of 0 when a baby is born you dont say he is 1 year old when he is born you have to wait 12 months for him to be one.....the same is with years or weeks you don't start counting 1 the first day of the week or year you start 1 after the 7 days are full or 360 prophetic days(1 year) to be counted as 1.......so 49 years started September 23 2015 the next day was 49 years and 1 day ...49 years and two days until you get to the full 49 years 11 months and 30 days before starting the count of the 50th year


Daniel 9:25:

International Standard Version
So be informed and discern that seven weeks and 62 weeks will elapse from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed Commander. The plaza and moat will be rebuilt, though in troubled times.


We know to look for Elijah on passover which is the week of April 22-30 2016........this anointed commander is not Jesus this time..it is Elijah to give warning the day of the lord is near at hand: