WHY MID-ACTS is SO MISUNDERSTOOD .

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So you do agree that if Abraham did refused, he would have been cut off from God too?
If the Abraham we know refused to circumcise, he wouldn't have been Abraham. What is already in the heart will manifest in the flesh - his heart was already circumcised when he believed God many years prior - the circumcision in the flesh would naturally follow. Just look at Moses - his heart was circumcised, but he failed to circumcise his son in the flesh. God made a way for him, although it may have caused Moses a loss of reputation - it's one of the few faults recorded about him.

But what God said is true - failing to be circumcised would result in the whole man being cut off.
 
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Okay, at least we can agree on that.
Look at the woman who committed adultery. Again, the penalty for adultery was death. But God's plan for her was different. God saved her life through Jesus. But in general, the penalty for adultery, according to the law, was death. Similar to the penalty for uncircumcision.
 
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Look at the woman who committed adultery. Again, the penalty for adultery was death. But God's plan for her was different. God saved her life through Jesus. But in general, the penalty for adultery, according to the law, was death. Similar to the penalty for uncircumcision.

My original point can be found here WHY MID-ACTS is SO MISUNDERSTOOD .
 
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Sorry, what do you mean here? What was set aside?

And Israel was from the beginning ,when Moses pull the VAIL on his face as Moses scared the Jews as he descended MT SINAI .

Notice 2 Cor 3:13 reads , And not even as Moses , who was placing a covering upon his face , for the children of Israel not to gaze towards the END of that being ABOLISHED .

Verse 14 But their thoughts were HARDENED , For until this day at the reading of the Old Covenant , the same covering remains , NOT being UNCOVERED , which is being ABOLISHED by Christ . It is Christ that is setting Israel aside .

Verse 15 , But UNTIL this day , when Moses is being read , a COVERING LIES upon their heart .

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Why do you think Jesus was speaking to gentiles in his 1st coming, after you read Matthew 10:5 and Matthew 15:24?

Because of what Paul said below.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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Because of what Paul said below.


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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Paul wrote that after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So that supports Jesus first coming was only for the circumcised. (Romans 15:8)
 
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Paul wrote that after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So that supports Jesus first coming was only for the circumcised. (Romans 15:8)


Did you add the word "only" to make the Two Peoples of God doctrine work?

Did Paul change his mind after he wrote chapter 1 of Romans?


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)



The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?


1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)


2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?


3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?


4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?


5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?


6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?


7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?


8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)


9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?


10. Watch the YouTube video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.


Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.

Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:


“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.


Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.


John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…


"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”

John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25

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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)

What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?

Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?

Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?

Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?

Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?


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Did you add the word "only" to make the Two Peoples of God doctrine work?

Did Paul change his mind after he wrote chapter 1 of Romans?


Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)



The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?


1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)


2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?


3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?


4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?


5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?


6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?


7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?


8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)


9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?


10. Watch the YouTube video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.


Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.

Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:


“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.


Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”

Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.


John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…


"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”

John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)

What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?

Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?

Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?

Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?

Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?


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He didn't change his mind, you are just interpreting the Romans passage incorrectly
 
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reply#23
Look at the woman who committed adultery. Again, the penalty for adultery was death. But God's plan for her was different. God saved her life through Jesus. But in general, the penalty for adultery, according to the law, was death. Similar to the penalty for uncircumcision.
Re:- Reply #23
Ref: John 8:3-11

'They say unto Him, "Master, this woman was taken in adultery,
in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such
should be stoned: but what sayest thou?"
This they said, tempting Him, that they might have to accuse Him.
But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground,
as though He heard them not.'

(John 8:4-6)

Hello @Thera.

There was no one present to bring a condemnation again her: they had all gone away, when the Lord said, 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.' being convicted by their own conscience. So there were not the required witnesses needed according to the law to convict the woman.

Whatever the state of the hearts of the men who sought her punishment, which could be known by God only: we do know that they were all equally guilty of at least two wrongs, by the record given.
1) That they were seeking to 'tempt Him', so that they may have reason to accuse Him, using devious means: and, 2) the action of our Lord, writing on the ground showed that He was not ignorant of the fact that they were not telling Him the full facts of the case against this woman. For they demanded stoning as punishment for this woman, but the Lord showed that He knew that her status, as the wife of a man, required not stoning, but something else altogether, stoning was the punishment required for a woman who was still a virgin, espoused to a man. His writing on the ground pointed to the punishment that was required by the law for her, as the wife of a man (see Numbers 5:11-31).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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These are the subjects that I see that most do not see , my opinion .

#1 Most can not agree how SAUL was saved ?
By the Grace of GOD!
[/QUOTE]
#2. Or how Saul received the Holy Spirit ?
#3 Many say we are now under the NEW COVENANT , why ?[/QUOTE]
we are not under the New Covenant. We as Christians still sin and the New Covenant specifically states that GOD's laws are within each. In the millennium to come, the remnant of Israel will receive the New Covenant. It is apparent by the prophecies, no Jews will die during this age.......
[/QUOTE]
#4 Many believe that Paul water baptized , why ?

The Betrothed Bride of Christ ,Yes, the Body of Christ ,Yes. [/QUOTE]

There are two marriages in the Bible...God,the Father to Israel and Jesus to His Church. These are depicted throughout His WORD as what was seen in the ancient Hebrew weddings.
[/QUOTE]
#6 Many refuse to believe that Israel was SET ASIDE , why ?[/QUOTE]

Israel has been set aside as in awaiting for the day, the Church (Body of Christ) is no longer here. At this time, God will bring His wrath down upon them and the world....2/3 of the Jewish population will die during Daniel's 70th Week and much more that 1/2 of the Gentile population of the earth will also perish.
[/QUOTE]
#7 And most fail to see , how Jews are saved under under the Law , today ?[/QUOTE]
They are not saved under the law....The few of them that believe are saved by faith alone.

[/QUOTE]
#8 Will anyone explain , why any believer , of today will be resurrected ?
#9 Why do many say that there is ONLY one GOSPEL and IF that is true , how was Adam and Eve saved ?[/QUOTE]
As were all those that were in Abraham's Bosom were saved..by the
Grace of GOD
[/QUOTE]

#10 Or explain , how anyone is in the FAITH for Today under GRACE ?
dan p[/QUOTE]

Through the belief and faith in the crucifixion, bruial and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to His word (according to scriptures, 1 Cor 15:1-4)

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He didn't change his mind, you are just interpreting the Romans passage incorrectly

Which translations below are wrong?

Romans 1:16

(CSB) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, and also to the Greek.

(ESV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

(ESV+) For R4I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is R5the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew R6first and also to R7the Greek.

(Geneva) For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God vnto saluation to euery one that beleeueth, to the Iewe first, and also to the Grecian.

(GW) I'm not ashamed of the Good News. It is God's power to save everyone who believes, Jews first and Greeks as well.

(HCSB) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is God's power for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, and also to the Greek.

(KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

(KJV+) ForG1063 I am notG3756 ashamedG1870 of theG3588 gospelG2098 of Christ:G5547 forG1063 it isG2076 the powerG1411 of GodG2316 untoG1519 salvationG4991 to every oneG3956 that believeth;G4100 to the JewG2453 first,G4412 andG2532 alsoG5037 to the Greek.G1672

(NKJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

(NLT) For I am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes—the Jew first and also the Gentile.

(YLT) for I am not ashamed of the good news of the Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation to every one who is believing, both to Jew first, and to Greek.


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Which translations below are wrong?

Romans 1:16

(CSB) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, and also to the Greek.

(ESV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

(ESV+) For R4I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is R5the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew R6first and also to R7the Greek.

(Geneva) For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God vnto saluation to euery one that beleeueth, to the Iewe first, and also to the Grecian.

(GW) I'm not ashamed of the Good News. It is God's power to save everyone who believes, Jews first and Greeks as well.

(HCSB) For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is God's power for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, and also to the Greek.

(KJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

(KJV+) ForG1063 I am notG3756 ashamedG1870 of theG3588 gospelG2098 of Christ:G5547 forG1063 it isG2076 the powerG1411 of GodG2316 untoG1519 salvationG4991 to every oneG3956 that believeth;G4100 to the JewG2453 first,G4412 andG2532 alsoG5037 to the Greek.G1672

(NKJV) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

(NLT) For I am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes—the Jew first and also the Gentile.

(YLT) for I am not ashamed of the good news of the Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation to every one who is believing, both to Jew first, and to Greek.


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My point was Paul wrote Romans after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So that supports Jesus first coming was only for the circumcised. (Romans 15:8)

No changing of mind required.
 
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My point was Paul wrote Romans after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So that supports Jesus first coming was only for the circumcised. (Romans 15:8)

No changing of mind required.

Can you show me which translation contains the word "only"?


Romans 15:8

(CSB) For I say that Christ became a servant of the circumcised on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

(ESV) For I tell you that Christ became a servant to the circumcised to show God's truthfulness, in order to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs,

(ESV+) For I tell you that Christ R3became a servant to the circumcised to show God's truthfulness, in order R4to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs,

(Geneva) Nowe I say, that Iesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision, for the trueth of God, to confirme the promises made vnto the fathers.

(GW) Let me explain. Christ became a servant for the Jewish people to reveal God's truth. As a result, he fulfilled God's promise to the ancestors of the Jewish people.

(HCSB) For I say that the Messiah became a servant of the circumcised on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

(KJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

(KJV+) NowG1161 I sayG3004 that JesusG2424 ChristG5547 wasG1096 a ministerG1249 of the circumcisionG4061 forG5228 the truthG225 of God,G2316 to confirmG950 theG3588 promisesG1860 made unto theG3588 fathers:G3962

(NKJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ has become a servant to the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made to the fathers,

(NLT) Remember that Christ came as a servant to the Jews to show that God is true to the promises he made to their ancestors.

(YLT) And I say Jesus Christ to have become a ministrant of circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

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Can you show me which translation contains the word "only"?


Romans 15:8

(CSB) For I say that Christ became a servant of the circumcised on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

(ESV) For I tell you that Christ became a servant to the circumcised to show God's truthfulness, in order to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs,

(ESV+) For I tell you that Christ R3became a servant to the circumcised to show God's truthfulness, in order R4to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs,

(Geneva) Nowe I say, that Iesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision, for the trueth of God, to confirme the promises made vnto the fathers.

(GW) Let me explain. Christ became a servant for the Jewish people to reveal God's truth. As a result, he fulfilled God's promise to the ancestors of the Jewish people.

(HCSB) For I say that the Messiah became a servant of the circumcised on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

(KJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

(KJV+) NowG1161 I sayG3004 that JesusG2424 ChristG5547 wasG1096 a ministerG1249 of the circumcisionG4061 forG5228 the truthG225 of God,G2316 to confirmG950 theG3588 promisesG1860 made unto theG3588 fathers:G3962

(NKJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ has become a servant to the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made to the fathers,

(NLT) Remember that Christ came as a servant to the Jews to show that God is true to the promises he made to their ancestors.

(YLT) And I say Jesus Christ to have become a ministrant of circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises to the fathers,

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As I quoted earlier, you have to use Matthew 15:24, Matthew 10:5, together with Romans 15:8, to see the entire picture regarding the audience of Jesus's first coming.
 
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My point was Paul wrote Romans after Jesus ascended into heaven.

So that supports Jesus first coming was only for the circumcised. (Romans 15:8)

No changing of mind required.
as you stated (Ro 15:8.."Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" Notice what this verse says...."for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" The promises made to Abraham and required circumcision in the OT...Jesus was there....Nothing new except that the belief/ faith of the
Gospel of Jesus as written in the Bible, would give circumcision to the spirits of the gentiles.

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as you stated (Ro 15:8.."Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" Notice what this verse says...."for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:" The promises made to Abraham and required circumcision in the OT...Jesus was there....Nothing new except that the belief/ faith of the
Gospel of Jesus as written in the Bible, would give circumcision to the spirits of the gentiles.

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Yes, are you agreeing with my point?
 
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Yes, are you agreeing with my point?
That Jesus 1st coming was for the circumcised? NO, He was here for all that would listen. Those that came/come to believe then and now will have a circumcised spirit in the name of God. This is not what you are saying

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That Jesus 1st coming was for the circumcised? NO, He was here for all that would listen. Those that came/come to believe then and now will have a circumcised spirit in the name of God. This is not what you are saying

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So you believed when Jesus stated Matthew 15:24 and Matthew 10:5, he was joking?
 
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