Why it is so hard to find a non Works salvation church building

[Der Alte]

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Common false gospels that I hear are saved by grace through faith and works - most common false gospel.
"Initially" saved by grace through faith, not works, then "ultimately" saved by works - type 2 works salvation at the back door.
Saved by grace through faith and "these" works (good works/works of faith etc..) and just not "those" works (works of the law).
Saved by grace plus law, faith plus works - typically taught by modern day Judaizers.

Do you know the difference between works of the law and actions which result from being saved? A person who claims to be saved but lives like the devil, is not saved.

 

[Danthemailman]

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Do you know the difference between works of the law and actions which result from being saved? A person who claims to be saved but lives like the devil, is not saved.

Yes and when it comes to the moral aspect of the law, you cannot dissect good works from the law. In James 2:15-16, the example of a "work" that James gives is: "If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit?"

To give a brother or sister these things needed for the body would certainly be a "work of faith/good work" yet to neglect such a brother or sister and not give them the things needed for the body is to break the second great commandment "love your neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22:39) as found written in the law of Moses (Leviticus 19:18).

In Matthew 22:37-40, we read: Jesus said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. So good works are not "completely detached" from these two great commandments which are found in the law of Moses. (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18)

I agree that a person who claims to be saved, but lives like the devil is not saved.

 

[Soyeong]

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Do you know the difference between works of the law and actions which result from being saved? A person who claims to be saved but lives like the devil, is not saved.

In Acts 5:32, the Spirit has been given to those who obey God, so obedience to God is part of the way to receive the Spirit, however, in Galatians 3:1-2, it denies that works of the law are part of the way to receive the Spirit, therefore the phrase "works of the law" does not refer to obedience to God, and as such it has nothing to do with salvation. Likewise, in Romans 3:27, Paul contrasted a law of works with a law of faith, so works of the law are of works, while he said in Romans 3:31 that our faith upholds God's law, so it is of faith, and a law that our faith upholds can't be referring to the same thing as the works of the law that are not of faith in Galatians 3:10-11.

In Titus 2:11-14, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so it is neither the case that our salvation is the result of doing those works nor is doing those works the result of being saved, but rather God graciously teaching us to do this works is itself the content of His gift of saving us from not doing those works. Our salvation is from sin (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so living in obedience to it is intrinsically the content of the gift of Jesus saving us from not living in obedience to it. For example, honoring our parents is intrinsically the concept of Jesus saving us from not honoring our parents, so someone who is disobeying that command is not being saved from disobeying it.