Why isn’t Schiff charged with lying to Congress?

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Wednesday excoriated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for doctoring his text messages after the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach admitted to misrepresenting Jordan's communications.

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

This is the second time in less than a month that the Jan. 6 committee has acknowledged a major blunder for pushing a false narrative of events.

rambot · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Wednesday excoriated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for doctoring his text messages after the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach admitted to misrepresenting Jordan's communications.

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

This is the second time in less than a month that the Jan. 6 committee has acknowledged a major blunder for pushing a false narrative of events.

ROLF...

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Good luck tomorrow!

On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence.

turned into...

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On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."

Edit; this is what was removed;

'No legislative act,' wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, 'contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: 'That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.' 226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916).

Following this rationale, an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally enacted statute, is no elector at all."

So...Jordan WAS attempting to undermine the results of a legitimate election and he didn't like that the legal rationale wasn't included?

This thread should not exist. *Because this topic should not exist*

With that said, this will be a GREAT article to show my class about reliable news reporting and how to spot competence and honesty on internet sites. Thank you for sharing it!

Hank77 · Dec 18, 2021

From the OP article:

A spokesperson for the Jan. 6 committee acknowledged the error.

"The Select Committee on Monday created and provided Representative Schiff a graphic to use during the business meeting quoting from a text message from 'a lawmaker' to Mr. Meadows," the spokesperson told Just the News. "In the graphic, the period at the end of that sentence was added inadvertently. The Select Committee is responsible for and regrets the error."

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

The text message was from Jordon [a lawmaker] to Meadows.

Hank77 · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Wednesday excoriated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for doctoring his text messages after the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach admitted to misrepresenting Jordan's communications.

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

This is the second time in less than a month that the Jan. 6 committee has acknowledged a major blunder for pushing a false narrative of events.

Who was in the business meeting where the graphic was presented? Was it the whole Congress, certain members ?

rambot · Dec 18, 2021

Wow....Jim Jordan is also a grammar nazi.

wing2000 · Dec 18, 2021

rambot said:
So...Jordan WAS attempting to undermine the results of a legitimate election and he didn't like that the legal rationale wasn't included?

This thread should not exist.

....I disagree. The op has served to remind us that Jim Jordan is not a friend of our democracy.

Maria Billingsley · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Wednesday excoriated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for doctoring his text messages after the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach admitted to misrepresenting Jordan's communications.

Jan. 6 committee admits another blunder as Jordan rips Schiff for doctoring text messages

This is the second time in less than a month that the Jan. 6 committee has acknowledged a major blunder for pushing a false narrative of events.

I belive a mistake and admitting to it is different.

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

wing2000 said:
....I disagree. The op has served to remind us that Jim Jordan is not a friend of our democracy.

And Adam Schiff is not a friend to truth and honesty.

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

From the link:

At the hearing, Schiff said he wanted to display some of the messages that Meadows received from members of Congress, noting the committee isn't naming the lawmakers while its investigation is ongoing.

The California Democrat then displayed a graphic of one such message, which read, "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."

Schiff described the message as proof that some members of Congress were working with President Trump's White House to thwart the democratic process.

"You can see why this is so critical to ask Mr. Meadows about," Schiff said. "About a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional in order to overturn a presidential election and subvert the will of the American people."

The actual text message that Schiff claimed to display tells a different story, however.

The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

Schiff Doctored J6 Texts Between Mark Meadows And Jim Jordan

Oops, he did it again. After leaking fake Donald Trump, Jr. emails, fabricating the transcript of a 2019 phone call between former President Donald Trump and Ukraine’s president, and lying about his interactions with the so-called whistleblower behind House Democrats’ first impeachment of Trump, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is now running the same con against a fellow lawmaker.

This is NOT the first time Schiff has changed evidence to follow his narrative. He should be removed.

JustOneWay · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
From the link:

At the hearing, Schiff said he wanted to display some of the messages that Meadows received from members of Congress, noting the committee isn't naming the lawmakers while its investigation is ongoing.

The California Democrat then displayed a graphic of one such message, which read, "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."

Schiff described the message as proof that some members of Congress were working with President Trump's White House to thwart the democratic process.

"You can see why this is so critical to ask Mr. Meadows about," Schiff said. "About a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional in order to overturn a presidential election and subvert the will of the American people."

The actual text message that Schiff claimed to display tells a different story, however.

The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

Prove that Schiff actually was the one who altered the text, as opposed to being the one who read it. Otherwise you should recant you accusation that Schiff altered evidence.

Yttrium · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
And Adam Schiff is not a friend to truth and honesty.

Occupational hazard, being a politician and all.

GoldenBoy89 · Dec 18, 2021

Anything to discredit the commission and distract away from their findings.

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

JustOneWay said:
Prove that Schiff actually was the one who altered the text, as opposed to being the one who read it. Otherwise you should recant you accusation that Schiff altered evidence.

I didn't say he physically sat down and did the graphic - but he did sit down in front of Congress and testify to the accuracy of the graphic someone on his staff made. He is the head of the intelligence committee - either he lied or he is so incompetent that he doesn't know what he is attesting to. Did he not read the evidence then place an order for a graphic to be made so he can present it? Then read it into record as true? Is he a liar or just ignorant of the truth?

And I am not accusing him - Members of Congress are

JustOneWay · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
And I am not accusing him - Members of Congress are

This post here states otherwise.

hislegacy said:
The actual text message that Schiff claimed to display tells a different story, however.
The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

JustOneWay said:
This post here states otherwise.

That is a direct quote from the link which you would have seen if you read it.

Followed by a statement of fact.

And it is not the first time he has done it.

JustOneWay · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
That is a direct quote from the link which you would have seen if you read it.

Followed by a statement of fact.

And it is not the first time he has done it.

I searched for the quote in the article "The man altered evidence. That is illegal." and it was not there.

That is not a direct quote, and appears to be your words.

And I am not accusing him - Members of Congress are

Members of Congress did not write "The man altered evidence. That is illegal."

rambot · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
From the link:

At the hearing, Schiff said he wanted to display some of the messages that Meadows received from members of Congress, noting the committee isn't naming the lawmakers while its investigation is ongoing.

The California Democrat then displayed a graphic of one such message, which read, "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."

Schiff described the message as proof that some members of Congress were working with President Trump's White House to thwart the democratic process.

"You can see why this is so critical to ask Mr. Meadows about," Schiff said. "About a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional in order to overturn a presidential election and subvert the will of the American people."

The actual text message that Schiff claimed to display tells a different story, however.

The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

1. Usually when things are bolded it is noted whether the poster bolds them or if it's in the primary text.

2. In lieu of actually providing the text to prove your point, you quote a random journalists opinion?

Always in His Presence · Dec 18, 2021

JustOneWay said:
I searched for the quote in the article "The man altered evidence. That is illegal." and it was not there.

That is not a direct quote, and appears to be your words.

Members of Congress did not write "The man altered evidence. That is illegal."

Was the evidence altered?

Who is the person in charge?

Who is Jordan speaking directly to?

Does Schiff have a history of doing the same?

JustOneWay · Dec 18, 2021

hislegacy said:
Was the evidence altered?

Who is the person in charge?

Who is Jordan speaking directly to?

Does Schiff have a history of doing the same?

What is you point? Either you are accusing Schiff of altering texts, or you are not.

hislegacy said:
The man altered evidence. That is illegal.

hislegacy said:
And I am not accusing him - Members of Congress are

Why isn’t Schiff charged with lying to Congress?

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