Why Islam?

[new_manII]

Hello,
I am a Christian worship one God who created heavens and earth.
I believe in God, His Books, His Prophets, Angles, Judgment day.
Why should I leave Christianity and go to Islam?
What does Islam Offer that is not in Christianity?

Thanks
nmII

 

[Arthra]

Hello,
I am a Christian worship one God who created heavens and earth.
I believe in God, His Books, His Prophets, Angles, Judgment day.
Why should I leave Christianity and go to Islam?
What does Islam Offer that is not in Christianity?

Thanks
nmII

I think you'll find that Moslems also believe in one God Who created the heavens and the earth...as well as believing in revealed Scriptures, accepting the Prophets etc.

As a former Christian my first interest in Islam was in the Qur'an where you will find similar stories as the Bible but with a different perspective....

The Qur'an is another chapter of the great scriptures that should be respected and heeded...Baha'u'llah we Baha'is feel brought a more recent chapter.


Being a Baha'i I accept Prophet Muhammad as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and a continuation of the prophetic role outlined in the Bible....

Your question:

"Why should I leave Christianity and go to Islam?" could also be asked of Jews at the time of Jesus...Why should they have left their earlier understandings of Judaism to become Christian?

Actually you're not "leaving" the earlier religion but confirming and fulfilling it...that's how we Baha'is see it....

So just as Jews can benefit from accepting Jesus so Christians can benefit from accepting Prophet Muhammad and so on....

- Art

 

[new_manII]

Hello Arthra,
thanks for your post.

I think you'll find that Moslems also believe in one God Who created the heavens and the earth...as well as believing in revealed Scriptures, accepting the Prophets etc.

I know that muslims claim to be worshipping one god...etc
I am not telling Muslims to become christians so that they tell me i already have what u want to sell.No.it's the other way, dear. Muslims come and tell me to become muslim so the question is WHY.

As a former Christian my first interest in Islam was in the Qur'an where you will find similar stories as the Bible but with a different perspective....

since they are the same stories, what's the benefit of two copies of the same sotry?
Differnet perspective ? mmm, can u tell me what's the quran all about? what's the main idea in it? put a title for the quran's Idea.

The Qur'an is another chapter of the great scriptures that should be respected and heeded...Baha'u'llah we Baha'is feel brought a more recent chapter.

Being a Baha'i I accept Prophet Muhammad as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and a continuation of the prophetic role outlined in the Bible....

What did it add to the great scriptures ?? that's the question i am asking.

Your question:
"Why should I leave Christianity and go to Islam?" could also be asked of Jews at the time of Jesus...Why should they have left their earlier understandings of Judaism to become Christian?

Let's say i was a jew and became a christian, and found that there's nothing more in being a christian than being a jew. will I repeat my *mistake* again?
two wrongs don't make it right, right?
plus, that doesn't answer the question, why should i beleive in Islam?

Actually you're not "leaving" the earlier religion but confirming and fulfilling it...that's how we Baha'is see it....
So just as Jews can benefit from accepting Jesus so Christians can benefit from accepting Prophet Muhammad and so on....
- Art

My friend,
The current one's telling you to love your enemey, while the other's telling you to kill all those who does not believe in Allah and his messenger from those who got the Book untill they pay al jezya.
The current one's telling you to love your wife as urself, and the other is telling u to buy and sell females as you want up to four legal wifes and countless maids...etc
you can't go both ways.

thanks anyway for your try.
waiting for a muslim responce
what does Islam offer that is not in Chritianity?
love
nmII

 

[Arthra]

Thanks for your reply newman...All the best to you...

I'd suggest that you read the Qur'an for yourself if you're curious and want to learn more about it... You could visit a local Mosque and ask questions there.

Each revelation from God has advances on the previous one in my opinion... Islamic laws were intended for the state or government while Jesus teachings were directed more at individuals... You will also find them as core values in other religions.

I suppose there are many Christians trying to convert Moslems and I haven't noticed where I live the reverse...but Moslems are participating on our Inter Faith Council.

The more we understand other religions I think the more peace there can be in the world.

- Art

 

[pink]

hi new man

i think the answer for ur Q is in the quraan try to read it and u will find the answer....


ok .. i think the islam is the united religion...

yes the muslims believe in the all the books of god but the books exept the quraan are fiddler and the clue is we have many of holy books

but them have one from him massenger to today

i think we like thim but thim have alot of discipline

ok that what i know about islam ,, if u want any thing else tell me





bye

 

[Mephster]

Hello,
I am a Christian worship one God who created heavens and earth.
I believe in God, His Books, His Prophets, Angles, Judgment day.
Why should I leave Christianity and go to Islam?
What does Islam Offer that is not in Christianity?

Thanks
nmII

A Muslim will tell you that Islam offers a complete fullness of revelation that ammends, corrects, and warns all - thus surpassing the previous revelations in perfection. That is what a Muslim will tell you, and from a Muslim's perspective, this is the truth. And that answers your question. Whether or not you, personally, believe in the truth of that proposition is entirely up to you, so to speak.

But regardless, every sensible person in the world should tell people that the only real reason to convert to any religion FROM any religion is a deep abiding belief that the religion one is converting to expresses the truth about God and worshiping Him in a fuller and more compete way.

 

[mo.mentum]

The bedrock of the Qur'an, and hence Islam, is Tawhid. The One-ification of God in every aspect of human life.

The Qur'an's main "idea" is to bring the reader to this realization on multiple levels, and not just as some obscure dogma to be blindly believed in.

The biblical stories found in the Qur'an are slightly different from the versions found in the Bible, but you will find much similarities. Why differences? Well there are enough differences between Bible versions, so we shouldn't be surprises that the Qur'an has some difference with the NT and OT. Point is, for a Muslim the Qur'an is the fulfillment of the directive for the primordial religion of Mankind, the same religion practiced by Adam, Noah and Abraham: complete submission to God.

For a Muslim, Christians and Jews aren't foreigners..but People of the Book because they follow previous Scripture. A Muslim cannot revert to Christianity or Judaism easily because in his worldview, the book he has is more complete.

 

[Noor Saffiyah]

As usual Mephster is much more talented with explaining things than I am.

In regards to Tawhid and the Oneness of G-D (Allah)mentioned earlier, this concept of Tawhid is important withing Judaism as well.

As a former Christian (both Roman Catholic and 'born-again' for many, many years), and now as a Muslim, one of the problems I have with Christianity which eventually led to me leaving is that I do not see it as a 'fullfillment of the law' as Jesus (as) quite clearily says in scripture that he came to do;


Mntion was made of the fact that Judaic teaching covers the spiritual, state and government issues that come up within ones life. This is also true of Islam. It is, however, not true of the Christianity that has been taught (now or in the past). The teachings are of a spiritual nature only. State and Government issues must be taken care of in a separate manner.

If you spend some open-minded time studying both Judaism (Orthodox[as in original]) as well as Islam you may come to see this. They (Judaism and Islam) are more 'ways of life' rather than 'religions'..

And, in my mind makes them more appropriate choices to live by.

Insha'Allah, I have not said anything incorrect.

Takbir!!!

 

[mo.mentum]

Jazaki'llah Khayr Noor

 

[artofwar]

They (Judaism and Islam) are more 'ways of life' rather than 'religions'..

thats bizarre i think the same way But Christianity a way of life where as Islam and Judaism are more Religions



im very curious as too why you converted to Muslim after being a born again Christian as I cant seem to see a proper reason on the thread above could you please carify?
thanks

 

[peaceful soul]

As usual Mephster is much more talented with explaining things than I am.

In regards to Tawhid and the Oneness of G-D (Allah)mentioned earlier, this concept of Tawhid is important withing Judaism as well.

As a former Christian (both Roman Catholic and 'born-again' for many, many years), and now as a Muslim, one of the problems I have with Christianity which eventually led to me leaving is that I do not see it as a 'fullfillment of the law' as Jesus (as) quite clearily says in scripture that he came to do;


Mntion was made of the fact that Judaic teaching covers the spiritual, state and government issues that come up within ones life. This is also true of Islam. It is, however, not true of the Christianity that has been taught (now or in the past). The teachings are of a spiritual nature only. State and Government issues must be taken care of in a separate manner.

If you spend some open-minded time studying both Judaism (Orthodox[as in original]) as well as Islam you may come to see this. They (Judaism and Islam) are more 'ways of life' rather than 'religions'..

And, in my mind makes them more appropriate choices to live by.

Insha'Allah, I have not said anything incorrect.

Takbir!!!

Christianity deals with the true issue of every man - sin. You can not know that you are separated from God if you are blinded as we are naturally. We have to see it and then get correction. Once we are reunited with God, we will start to be restored to order, because we have become obedient to God.

Christians do not run the Governments. Even if they did, they would still have to allow nonbelievers to have equal rights to reject Christianity, therefore God. We can not police morality like Islam tries to do. You can not change a person by restricting their desires. Their desires have to be changed. Those desires are rooted in their spiritual nature. So it is the spiritual component that guides everything else about that person. Change his spiritual nature, then you can change the man. Non of this can be done by force.

 

[new_manII]

Hello everyone,
thanks for your posts...

A Muslim will tell you that Islam offers a complete fullness of revelation that ammends, corrects, and warns all - thus surpassing the previous revelations in perfection.

Ok, could you please, give examples? Thanks

The bedrock of the Qur'an, and hence Islam, is Tawhid. The One-ification of God in every aspect of human life.

Jews and Christians worship one God who created everything, judge everyone...etc
nothing new here.

For a Muslim, Christians and Jews aren't foreigners..but People of the Book because they follow previous Scripture. A Muslim cannot revert to Christianity or Judaism easily because in his worldview, the book he has is more complete.

You are commanded to fight [kill] jews and christians

Surah 9 [29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

They beleive in everything EXCEPT Muhamed. so, you either kill them, or force them to become muslims, or take Jizya from them and make them feel themselves subdued.
Muhamed commanded you not to greet the people of the book:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.

so they are enemies and you should fight, kill them or force them to become Muslims.

In regards to Tawhid and the Oneness of G-D (Allah)mentioned earlier, this concept of Tawhid is important withing Judaism as well.

and christianity too, so what's new in Islam?

I didn't see anyone who's talking about going to Heaven or Janna, does Islam assure muslims to go to heaven? or what's the case?

thanks
love, nmII

 

[radorth]

When we "advance" to Islam then, we are "fulfilling" our religious experience by giving up lesser revelations such as:

1. Jesus was not crucified and the 200 or so scriptures dealing with atonement for sin and the finished work of Christ are null and void to us.

2. The righteousness of Christ is no longer imputed to us.

3. If we do enough good works by force of will, we might be saved

4. We have no assurance or promise. Like Muhammed, who said "I do not know what Allah will do with me," we no longer have any good idea whether we will be saved or not.

5. Our relationship with God becomes far more impersonal because we are now bound to maintain rituals, such as facing east at certain times of the day, traveling to Mecca, wearing certain clothes, or we lose his favor.

6. The Holy Spirit who Jesus said will "comfort and teach you" is to be rejected as an imaginary manifestation of the Godhead.

7. Anything in the NT which contradicts Muhammed's assertions or non-Christian historical records is false

Correct?

Thanks anyway.

Rad

 

[radorth]

Christianity deals with the true issue of every man - sin. You can not know that you are separated from God if you are blinded as we are naturally. We have to see it and then get correction. Once we are reunited with God, we will start to be restored to order, because we have become obedient to God.

Christians do not run the Governments. Even if they did, they would still have to allow nonbelievers to have equal rights to reject Christianity, therefore God. We can not police morality like Islam tries to do. You can not change a person by restricting their desires. Their desires have to be changed. Those desires are rooted in their spiritual nature. So it is the spiritual component that guides everything else about that person. Change his spiritual nature, then you can change the man. Non of this can be done by force.

Well said bro.

Rad

 

[new_manII]

Any answers from our muslim brothers??
nmII

 

[new_manII]

still waiting for an answer why Islam ?
thanks

 

[Shay2005]

Hello Arthra,
thanks for your post.
I know that muslims claim to be worshipping one god...etc
I am not telling Muslims to become christians so that they tell me i already have what u want to sell.No.it's the other way, dear. Muslims come and tell me to become muslim so the question is WHY.



Let's say i was a jew and became a christian, and found that there's nothing more in being a christian than being a jew. will I repeat my *mistake* again?
two wrongs don't make it right, right?
plus, that doesn't answer the question, why should i beleive in Islam?


nmII

Why is the question why?? Christians come and tell me to become a Christian when I am a Jew. WHY??? I dont go around telling Christians to be Jewish. Flip the script and then answer your own question.

There is a WHOLE lof of difference in the religion Christianity and Judaism. We dont really worship the same "G-d"

Christianity worship a man named Jesus as G-d and we worship G-d Himself. The only thing we share is the fact that we have the same Books of the Bible (not really the same because we dont have Matthews, Revelation, etc)

But I think Islam religion is more spiritual than Christianity.

 

[new_manII]

Thanks Shay for your post.
but I am asking Muslims why should I -as a christian- have to be a muslim or get killed or pay Jizya.
for you, I don't think there's in the new testment any *command* that tells christians to go killing jews or take jizya from them if they didn't become christians. that's first.
Second, you, as a jew, are waiting for the Messiah.
Christianty *claim* -regardless it's true or false- that Jesus is the Messiah. so there's something christianty will add to you if you beleieved in it.
what about Islam? What does it offer?
We, as christians, are not waiting for anyone but the Christ in His second-comming.
This is my question.

thanks , and my question is still ON.
waiting for a muslim to tell me why i should become a muslim or get killed.

nmII

 

[Crispie]

Why is the question why?? Christians come and tell me to become a Christian when I am a Jew. WHY??? I dont go around telling Christians to be Jewish. Flip the script and then answer your own question.

There is a WHOLE lof of difference in the religion Christianity and Judaism. We dont really worship the same "G-d"

Christianity worship a man named Jesus as G-d and we worship G-d Himself. The only thing we share is the fact that we have the same Books of the Bible (not really the same because we dont have Matthews, Revelation, etc)

But I think Islam religion is more spiritual than Christianity.

Ever think that maybe those prophecys in the Old Testament for when the messiah comes and about the messiah dont fit into the current times?

 

[Shay2005]

Ever think that maybe those prophecys in the Old Testament for when the messiah comes and about the messiah dont fit into the current times?

Such as?? We are waiting on G-d. My Messiah is G-d Himself.

Jesus doesnt even fit the requirements for a Messiah. If Jesus didnt go around saying He was G-d then maybe I would believe He was of G-d. But when a human CLAIMS to be G-d.....then I just cant allow myself to believe in such a being. Humans cant be G-d. But I love Jesus as a good Phophet I guess.