Why is weed a sin

[Nadiine]

Originally Posted by Shiversblood

A lot of very famous and powerfull people have smoked weed before. Are they all going to hell? The people are...

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Um, if you read the Bible, it says the majority take the wide path to destruction and only few take the narrow to eternal life.

Alot of famous and powerful people deny Christ, mock Him, mock righteousness (what is right or holy/Godly) and seek money and power instead of eternal life.
That would be why they go to the Lake of Fire - not just the pot.

The drugs are just the result/symptom of their Godless condition.

 

[xcrunner71]

LAWL at the list.. just because you smoke doesn't mean you're going to hell. It's certainly not a godly lifestyle and disables you from your potential to serve God at your highest potential. Repent from smoking and stop.

 

[Nadiine]

LAWL at the list.. just because you smoke doesn't mean you're going to hell. It's certainly not a godly lifestyle and disables you from your potential to serve God at your highest potential. Repent from smoking and stop.

This name on the list stuck out to me for one reason
• Aleister Crowley

He was an OCCULTIST (just to name a few things)
As if we'd say the pot would send him to hell, not that minor other stuff like occultism


WIKI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

 

[Nadiine]

• Kurt Cobain.


no comment here either

 

[Cris413]

Interesting list...but just as I would never make any assumption who will or will not go to Hell...it's not smoking pot that gets you a ticket to Hell...it's an unrepentant heart that does not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior...

...and if I may be so bold...it's an uncircumcised heart...that continues to desire to walk in the flesh rather than the Spirit that leads people to continue to do things...anything....that goes expressly against God's will for our lives and what GOD calls sin and rebellion...

So...IMHO...doesn't matter one little bit what we THINK is right or wrong...but what God says is right or wrong and He's pretty clear about it in His word.

Now we all have our "struggles" nice word for "sin condition" I believe the difference is whether or not we revel in those "struggles" or with a repentant heart allow the Holy Spirit to continue to circumcise our hearts and keep transforming us more and more into the likeness of Christ Jesus.

 

[Corin]

A lot of very famous and powerfull people have smoked weed before. Are they all going to hell? The people are

• Abbie Hoffman
• Al Gore.
• Aldous Huxley
• Aleister Crowley
• Alice B. Toklas
• Allen Ginsberg. Poet.
• Alexis Korner. Musician.
• Andy Warhol. Artist.
• Annita Roddock. Founder 'The Body Shop'.
• Anjelica Huston. Hollywood actress. Jack Nicholson's girlfriend for 17 years. Pro-drug statements by her in Peter McWilliams book, 'Ain't Nobody's Business if You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country'.
• Arthur Conan Doyle. Author, creator 'Sherlock Holmes'.
• Aswad. Musicians.
• Beatles.
• Bill Clinton.
• Bill Murray Arrested for possession
• Bob Denver.
• Bob Dylan. Poet, singer, song writer.
• Bob Marley. Poet, singer, song writer.
• The Bishop of Monmouth.
• Brian Eno. Singer, song writer. Signed 'Independent' list.
• Boy George.
• British Lords & MP's - too many to list .
• Buddy Rich.
• Cab Calloway. Jazz musician.
• Carl Sagan. Author.
• Caroline Coon. Artist, founder 'Release', manager of the Clash.
• Carl Segan . Author.
• Carlos Santana. Musician, guitarist.
• Carrie Fischer.
• Cary Grant.
• Cary Mullis. Nobel Laurate, Biology
• Charles Beaudelaire
• Charles Dickens. Claims but no evdience.
• Cheech Marin.
• Chris Armstrong. Footballer, tested positive.
• Chris Conrad.
• Chris Farley. 60's singer.
• Chris Rock.
• Conan O'Brian.
• Count Basie. Jazz legend.
• Dame Ruth Runsiman. Author; Police Federation Report (March 2000) advising liberlization.
• Dave Gilmour . Musician ; Pink Floyd.
• Dave 'Tinki Winky' Thompson - TV personality (UK); the Tellie Tubbie that was sacked.
• Diego Rivera.
• Dion Fortune.
• Dioscorides.
• Dizzy Gillespie.
• Douglas Adams. Author.
• Dr Francis Crick. Nobel Prize winner.
• Dr Lester Grinspoon.
• Dr Mark Porter. TV doctor who says cannabis is not more harmful than alcohol.
• Dr Anne Biezanek (authoress)
• Dr R.D.Laing.
• Dr John Marks
• Dr W.B. O'Shaugnessy.
• Drew Barrymore.
• Duke Ellington.
• Eddie Ellison. Ex head of Scotland Yard Drug Squad.
• Edgar Allen Poe. Author, multi-drug user.
• Elvis Presley. Singer, FBI informer.
• Emperor Liu Chi-nu.
• Emperor Shen-Nung.
• Ernest Hemmingway. Author.
• Errol Flynn.
• Fela Kuti. Musician. Afro/jazz king.
• Felix Dennis. Publisher.
• Fitz Hugh Ludlow.
• Fran Healey. Musician; Travis.
• Francis Ford Coppella.
• Francis Rabelais.
• Francis Wilkinson. Ex Chief Constable of Gwent Police.
• Fredreich Nietzshe.
• Ganesh - Hindu God.
• Gary Johnson.
• Gene Krupa.
• George Clinton. Ex President's brother.
• George W Bush. Possibly the greatest living hypocrite.
• George Gurdjieff.
• George Melly. Jazz musician (early sponsor of Legalise Cannabis Campaign, Uk).
• George Michael. Singer.
• George Washington.
• George Soros.
• Gerard de Nerval.
• Gilberto Gil. Brazilian musical icon.
• The Greatful Dead.
• Hasan I-Sabah.
• Heinrich Khunrath.
• Helen Petrova Blavatsky.
• Henri Michaux.
• Herman Hesse.
• Hiero the Second.
• Howard Marks. Author, cannabis smuggller.
• Howard Stern, Admitted it on the radio.
• Hua T'o.
• Hunter S. Thompson. Smoked weed and snorted coke with George Bush.
• Ian Botham. Convicted Cricket legend.
• Irvine Welsh.
• Kurt Cobain.
• Jabir Ibn el-Hayyan.
• Jack Herer. Author 'The Emporor Wears No Cloths'
• Jack Kerouac. Author ' On the Road'.
• Jack Nicholson. Film actor.
• Jackie Gleason.
• Jackson Pollock.
• Jane Fonda. Actress.
• James Brown. Singer, song writer.
• Janis Joplin. Singer, song writer.
• Jesse 0Ventura.
• Jerry Lee Lewis. Musician, song writer.
• Jimmy Dorsey.
• Jimmy Hendrix. Rock guitarist, singe, song writer
• Jim Morrison. Musician, songwriter; The Doors.
• Joan of Arc. Accused of using 'witch herbs' (another name for cannabis).
• Joan Rivers.
• Joe Strummer. Musician, singer, songer writer; The Clash.
• John Belushi.
• John Denver.
• John F Kennedy. Popular US president (assassinated).
• John Keats. Poet.
• John Lennon. Musician, song writer; The Beatles.
• John Le Mesurier. Tried it but said it's not for him.
• Johnny Cash.
• John Peel. DJ, BBC broadcaster.
• John Sinclair.
• Judge John L. Kane. Chief Judge from the US District Court
• Julie Christie. Actress.
• Jules Verne.
• John Wayne. 'I tried it once but it didn't do anything to me.'
• Kelsey Grammar.
• Ken Livingston. Mayor of London - supports decriminalisation but does not smoke or support the use of recreational drugs.
• Kirk Douglas. Actor.
• Kurt Cobain.
• Larry Adler. Harmonica player and
friend of George Gershwin. May have written a song about it.
• Lenny Bruce. Comedian.
• Lewis Carroll. Author 'Alice in Wonderland'.
• Linda St Clair
• Little Richard. Musician.
• Lord Avebury.
• Lord Byron. Poet.
• Lord Deedes.
• Lord Tony Gifford. QC, civil rights lawyer.
• Louis Armstrong. 'Oh what a wonderful world'.
• Louis Hebert.
• Mark Thomas . Comedian.
• Marlon Brando. Actor.
• Martin Sheen.
• Mary Shelly. Author 'Frankinstein'.
• Mary Tyler Moore.
• Mick Jagger. Singer, song writer, The Rolling Stones.
• Michael Mansfield QC. Lawyer.
• Jade Jagger.
• JC 100. Fastest rapper in the west.
• JT Moore. Legendary white rasta guitarist.
• Mike Tyson.
• Miles Davis. Jazz/rock drummer.
• Mo Mowlan. Genuine honest politician.
• Modigliani. Sculptor.
• Montgomery Clift. Mentioned in his biography.
• Neil Diamond.
• Nick Hornby. Author.
• Niel Young. Musician.
• Norman Mailer. Author.
• Oasis. Rock band.
• Oliver Stone.
• Oscar Wilde. Poet.
• Pablo Picasso. Artist.
• Pancho Villa. Mexican bandit revolutionary.
• Paul Flynn. Uk Member of Parliament.
• Paul McCartney. Musician, song writer; The Beatles.
• Paul Simon. Musician, song writer.
• Pharoahs of Egypt. Traces in body samples.
• Phil Donohue.
• Phil Tufnell. Former test cricketer, now media celeb.
• Peter Fonda. Actor; 'Easy Rider'.
• Peter Sellers. Actor, comedian.
• Peter Tosh. Musician.
• Philip K. Dick. Science fiction author.
• Pierre Burton.
• Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
• Pink Floyd; Syd Barret and Roger Waters.
• Prince Charles. Heir to the Throne. Quoted while visiting a hospital; 'I understand cannabis is good for medical use' .
• Prince William.
• Prince Harry.
• Pythagoras.
• Queen Arnegunde.
• Queen Victoria. Used it for medical purposes.
• Ram Dass.
• Ray Charles. Musician.
• Rev Kenneth Leech.
• Richard Branson. 'Virgin'. Entreprenur.
• Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Laureate physicist, founder of quantum electrodynamics.
• Richard Prior.
• Richard Wilson. Actor; 'One Foot in the Grave'.
• Rimbaud. Author.
• Robert Burns. Mentioned it in a poem.
• Robert 'King' Carter. Grower.
• Robert Anton Wilson. Author.
• Robert Mitchum. Jailed 90 days for possession of marijuana, 1949.
• Roger McGough. 60's liverpool poet.
• Rolling Stones. Rock band.
• Ronnie Scot. Jazz club owner, musician, busted on stage 1958, at his club in Soho, London.
• S Club 7. 'Super clean' pop band, busted in Soho, very embarrassing.
• Salvador Dali. Artist.
• Samuel Beckett.
• Samuel Taylor Coleridge. Poet.
• Shen Nung. One of the fathers of Chinese medicine. 2700 B.C .
• Sinead O'Connor. Singer.
• Sidi-Hidi.
• Sigmun Freud. Shrink.
• Sonny Bono.
• Super Furry Animals. Welsh band who wrote a song about Howard Marks.
• Stephen King.
• Sting/Gordon Sumners.
• Tariq Ali. Activist Writer.
• Tenessee Williams. Author.
• Terence McKenna. Author.
• Terry Gilliam. Actor, comedian;Monty Python.
• The Who. Rock band.
• Thelonius Monk.
• Thomas Jefferson.
• Timothy Leary.
• Tom Lehrer.
• Top Tories. Senior members of the shadow cabinet.
• Tony Elliot. Publisher, 'Time Out.
• Tracy Blevins. Artist.
• Tuppy Gore.
• UB40. Band.
• Victor Hugo.
• Vincent Van Gogh. Artist.
• Walt Disney. Cartoonist.
• Walter Benjamin.
• Whitney Houstonn. Busted at Hawaii airport but ran away.
• William Burroughs. Author, poet, artist.
• Will Self. Author. Did smack on Blairs plane.
• William Shakespeare. Playwright.
• William Straw. UK Home Sec Jack Straw's son. Cautioned for supplying undercover journalists in pub 'shocker'.
• Willie Nelson.
• Winston Churchill. British Prime Minister, poet, artist & multi drug user.
• Woody Harrelson. Actor. Features in a book on growing medical marijuana .
• Zoroaster. Persian prophet.

So...is your point that you dont believe celebrities go to Hell? lol
And some of those are innacurate btw.

 

[Shiversblood]

Which ones?

 

[Corin]

Which ones?

Do you think that celebrities are saved from hell just because they are celebrities?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

• Kurt Cobain.


no comment here either

Don't know either, but he sure put out some great tunes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPQR-OsH0RQ&feature=related

 

[Nadiine]

Don't know either, but he sure put out some great tunes

that's definitely debatable - I never liked the band or their music or much of the grunge genre.

I was referring to his suicide - and he also did alot of heroine (so did his wife Courtney Love)

I could say that pot is usually the precursor to heavier drug use later on.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

that's definitely debatable - I never liked the band or their music or much of the grunge genre.

I was referring to his suicide - and he also did alot of heroine (so did his wife Courtney Love)

I could say that pot is usually the precursor to heavier drug use later on.

My youngest daughter was into grunge/punk and drugs in Junior High and is the only reason I even knew of that group. She ran away twice in 2 yrs, once when she was 13 and again at 14.

Never a dull moment with kids.

 

[Nadiine]

My youngest daughter was into grunge/punk and drugs in Junior High and is the only reason I even knew of that group. She ran away twice in 2 yrs, once when she was 13 and again at 14.

Never a dull moment with kids.

Oh Lord have mercy. I ran away about 3 or 4 times in between 13-16ish. One time I tried to run away, but my brother caught me walking down the street with my bags packed lol

nitemare.

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

I'm SO glad that my friend gave me this link. I am a Christian and so is my husband. I see absolutely nothing wrong with smoking pot for "medicinal" reasons..to just get high YES. My husband had back surgery several years ago and has 3 blown discs. The pain pills that the doctor put him on made him dopey, restless, couldn't sleep, and the side affects alone were scary!!! His doctor also put him on Prozac which can be a mind altering drug. I took those and flushed them down the toilet. He ended up buying his first bag of weed 10 years ago, and it has been the best drug for pain and relaxation that he has ever been on. He takes a couple of hits right before he goes to bed and sleeps like a baby.
God created every plant in the universe, and it is man that has abused it's usefulness.
Eph 5:18 ~ And be not drunk with wine, WHEREIN IS EXCESS; but be filled with the Spirit;
I guarentee that when Jesus walked the earth their wine was "fermented". I bet they had a rip roarin' time at the wedding at Cana when the pots never ran out. Anything in excess is a sin...drinking, gluttoney, smoking pot for the wrong reasons etc...NOT for a natural pain remedy!!

 

[Corin]

I'm SO glad that my friend gave me this link. I am a Christian and so is my husband. I see absolutely nothing wrong with smoking pot for "medicinal" reasons..to just get high YES. My husband had back surgery several years ago and has 3 blown discs. The pain pills that the doctor put him on made him dopey, restless, couldn't sleep, and the side affects alone were scary!!! His doctor also put him on Prozac which can be a mind altering drug. I took those and flushed them down the toilet. He ended up buying his first bag of weed 10 years ago, and it has been the best drug for pain and relaxation that he has ever been on. He takes a couple of hits right before he goes to bed and sleeps like a baby.
God created every plant in the universe, and it is man that has abused it's usefulness.
Eph 5:18 ~ And be not drunk with wine, WHEREIN IS EXCESS; but be filled with the Spirit;
I guarentee that when Jesus walked the earth their wine was "fermented". I bet they had a rip roarin' time at the wedding at Cana when the pots never ran out. Anything in excess is a sin...drinking, gluttoney, smoking pot for the wrong reasons etc...NOT for a natural pain remedy!!

The only thing i agree with you on is your siggy. lol

Id also like to know where in the bible it says that smoking pot is to be used for pain. Or anything else for that matter.
Also...id love to know where in the bible it tells that God made it.
Do you think God made beer as well? And cocaine?

 

[Shiversblood]

Unless you think some 2nd God made it, I really don't understand why you don't think God made the Marijuana plant. And the Plant cocaine comes out of. Is God not the Creator? Do you believe something else creates animals and plants on the earth? Don't say evil again, because evil is not a god that creates Plants. God creates plants.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The only thing i agree with you on is your siggy. lol

Id also like to know where in the bible it says that smoking pot is to be used for pain. Or anything else for that matter.
Also...id love to know where in the bible it tells that God made it.
Do you think God made beer as well? And cocaine?

My Avatar is showing him also

 

[Corin]

Unless you think some 2nd God made it, I really don't understand why you don't think God made the Marijuana plant. And the Plant cocaine comes out of. Is God not the Creator? Do you believe something else creates animals and plants on the earth? Don't say evil again, because evil is not a god that creates Plants. God creates plants.

Evil created the fact that its now a drug. I can say evil if i want. lol Cause thats what it is.
If you want to think God created drugs then go ahead. You are wrong.

My Avatar is showing him also

I never knew who that was! lol
I cant see it very well!

 

[Shiversblood]

Corin, not only did you not defend what you said, but you said something that does not make sense. With awnsers like this, I must from now on take all of your posts and old posts with just a grain of salt. Or flat out ignore them as false. Because there is no logic behind them.

 

[Corin]

Corin, not only did you not defend what you said, but you said something that does not make sense. With awnsers like this, I must from now on take all of your posts and old posts with just a grain of salt. Or flat out ignore them as false. Because there is no logic behind them.

Do whatever you want too. lol
I dont mind.

 

[JasonX43]

Evil created the fact that its now a drug. I can say evil if i want. lol Cause thats what it is.
If you want to think God created drugs then go ahead. You are wrong.




I never knew who that was! lol
I cant see it very well!

Genesis 1:11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so.

God made marijuana. God made the plant that cocaine is extracted from. But it's not His fault that mankind has taken what The Lord made and used it for evil and selfish ways. It's just like a singer or musician taking the talent God gave them and instead of singing the praises of Him, singing songs about sex, drugs, and money!(sound familiar?)