Who is Born of Water and the SPIRIT , he cannot enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN ?
Is John speaking to Gentiles ?
Or is John speaking to Jews ?
I believe it can be connected to Jesus BAPTISM !
What say you ?
dan p
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Jews are the 3-tribed House of Judah.
The House of Israel is the 10-lost tribes.)
The Gospel of John is written TO the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, because that's where John of the 12 Disciples was sent (Matthew 10:5-7)... because that's where the Father sent His Son (Matthew 15:24).
But some things in this Book are written ABOUT the Jews and their Pharisee leaders.
This passage is written TO the 10-tribes, ABOUT what the Pharisees didn't believe and teach the Jews:
John 3:1-12 There was a man of
the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:[2] The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto Him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
[3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[4] Nicodemus saith unto Him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb and be born?
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.[6]
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
[9] Nicodemus answered and said unto Him, How can these things be?
[10] Ιησους answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel and knowest not these things?[11] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know and testify that we have seen, and ye receive not our witness.[12] If
I have told you Earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you of Heavenly things?
So, it's a warning to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel; and it also describes a doctrine that the Pharisee leaders of the Jews never taught.
This is not a gentile doctrine, so Paul never uses the phrase "born
again".
anothen = from above:-- again, from the beginning (very first), the top.
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is
from above and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Yes,
it is definitely connected to the Ιησους baptism of the Holy Spirit... for those who keep His Commandments, (John 14:15-17).
The fire is only used in places like Revelation 3:18... and against the tares.
Matthew 3:11-17 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear.
He shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit, and with fire:[12] whose fan is in His hand and He will throughly purge His floor, and gather His wheat into the garner, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
This is WHY true believers of the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven are brethren, (John 10:1-16).
