Why is it that it's heterosexual men who seem to be most interested in gay topics?

[EnemyPartyII]

But your a Christian? Shouldn't you be worried that sin will creep into the Church if we allow this "state instatution" to go along. The more sin we allow around us the more it will affect the church?

"Real" Christians aren't effected by sin that way.

Nor do they seek to make up dodgy excuses to effect the lives and acts of those non-Christians around them. We are secure enough in our faith to know that the acts of others aren't suddenly going to make us turn to devil worship and baby sacrifice.

 

[BAFRIEND]

So trying to prevent a law that would make sure workers don't discriminate on a basis of sexuality isn't denying rights? Boy, I see where your agenda stands.

If homosexuals can be discriminated against in the work force, lets just remove all laws and let employers discriminate against religion, race and gender too. After all, it isn't denying any rights. If you'll excuse my very straight forward manner.

Every homosexual I know of who has been fired because of their orientation were fired because they chose to sexually harass other employees. Think about it, I don't go out of my way to find out about my co-workers personal lives and could care less about stereotypes in the workplace. Just so long as the job gets done.

A case in point, we had a guy who started to work and was doing good and then announced he was gay. He did it knowing full well that some might have issues with it, but nothing really happened. He had some friends and others avoided him, just like the rest of us. But then his conversations became sexually explicit. One evening he kept graghically describing things about him and his partner to a female co-worker, she asked him to stop and he did not. By definition, that is sexual harrassment and he got fired. Just as a straight person would have been. Regardless of who you are, once you start publicising your sexual preferences you are going down the road to ruin.

 

[BAFRIEND]

"Real" Christians aren't effected by sin that way.

Nor do they seek to make up dodgy excuses to effect the lives and acts of those non-Christians around them. We are secure enough in our faith to know that the acts of others aren't suddenly going to make us turn to devil worship and baby sacrifice.

Real christians are affected by sin because sin offends God. are you stating that Jesus was never affected by nor said that sin was an issue ?

Jesus said take the narrow path.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Every homosexual I know of who has been fired because of their orientation were fired because they chose to sexually harass other employees. Think about it, I don't go out of my way to find out about my co-workers personal lives and could care less about stereotypes in the workplace. Just so long as the job gets done.

Think about this carefully... how many people are there who seriously believe homosexuals should be excluded from the armed forces PURELY because of their sexual orientation?

For the record... How many homosexuals DO you know who have been fired for sexual harassment?

Regardless of who you are, once you start publicising your sexual preferences you are going down the road to ruin.

Aren't you advertising YOUR sexual preferences by participating in this thread?

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Every homosexual I know of who has been fired because of their orientation were fired because they chose to sexually harass other employees. Think about it, I don't go out of my way to find out about my co-workers personal lives and could care less about stereotypes in the workplace. Just so long as the job gets done.

A case in point, we had a guy who started to work and was doing good and then announced he was gay. He did it knowing full well that some might have issues with it, but nothing really happened. He had some friends and others avoided him, just like the rest of us. But then his conversations became sexually explicit. One evening he kept graghically describing things about him and his partner to a female co-worker, she asked him to stop and he did not. By definition, that is sexual harrassment and he got fired. Just as a straight person would have been. Regardless of who you are, once you start publicising your sexual preferences you are going down the road to ruin.

And how many homosexuals do you know? Obviously not a lot. If it wasn't obvious, he wasn't really homosexual. He expected to use that title as a means of getting out of his behavior. In the same way people use Christian and other religions. They're called hypocrites. (Gasp! Naughty word! Hypocrite!) I say I'm a Christian knowing full well people will protest, so I don't see the problem or the point in including that statement.

Basically, you're putting all your evidence that "homosexuals are bad" in anecdotes. I advertise my sexuality all the time. And then I get on to those who only talk about sex. Announcing you're a homosexual doesn't "lead you down the road to ruin". It's when you abuse said title to get your way. More "Christians" do this than "homosexuals" as a matter of fact.

 

[ReformedChapin]

"Real" Christians aren't effected by sin that way.

Nor do they seek to make up dodgy excuses to effect the lives and acts of those non-Christians around them. We are secure enough in our faith to know that the acts of others aren't suddenly going to make us turn to devil worship and baby sacrifice.

Look at how the church is now? Why do you think homosexuality is being accepted by some denominations? And it isn't about being secured about your faith its that Christians aren't equpired to deal with the issues. And it doesn't suddenly happen it's a gradual process.

A lot of the "christians" in the churches don't even believe that the bible is true...liberalism has deeply impacted the faith and it will keep happning unless we fight it.

 

[ReformedChapin]

And how many homosexuals do you know? Obviously not a lot. If it wasn't obvious, he wasn't really homosexual. He expected to use that title as a means of getting out of his behavior. In the same way people use Christian and other religions. They're called hypocrites. (Gasp! Naughty word! Hypocrite!) I say I'm a Christian knowing full well people will protest, so I don't see the problem or the point in including that statement.

Basically, you're putting all your evidence that "homosexuals are bad" in anecdotes. I advertise my sexuality all the time. And then I get on to those who only talk about sex. Announcing you're a homosexual doesn't "lead you down the road to ruin". It's when you abuse said title to get your way. More "Christians" do this than "homosexuals" as a matter of fact.

You mean how you accuse all fundies of being evil because they don't accept your sin?

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

You mean how you accuse all fundies of being evil because they don't accept your sin?

I don't accuse anyone of being more evil than I already know man is. And I accuse myself that far for that matter. You're the one who refused to admit your own sin as far as I can tell.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I don't accuse anyone of being more evil than I already know man is. And I accuse myself that far for that matter. You're the one who refused to admit your own sin as far as I can tell.

When did I say I wasn't a sinner? The fact that I am a fundie proves that I more than admit I am a sinner.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

When did I say I wasn't a sinner? The fact that I am a fundie proves that I more than admit I am a sinner.

Then why do you feel so obligated to point the finger at homosexuals? You seem destined to prove that you're better than them.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Then why do you feel so obligated to point the finger at homosexuals? You seem destined to prove that you're better than them.

Something called the debate forum?

Grow up Please

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Something called the debate forum?

Grow up Please

There's a difference between debating whether or not something is right or wrong and what you're doing. You see, you're idea of debating is throwing out "your logic is terrible" as well as other numerous insults. While my debating consists of at least a little more theory. You're just repeating the same spoon feeding all Christians get. Conservatives don't know how to argue.

Grow up? Wow, what a mature statement.

 

[ReformedChapin]

There's a difference between debating whether or not something is right or wrong and what you're doing. You see, you're idea of debating is throwing out "your logic is terrible" as well as other numerous insults. While my debating consists of at least a little more theory. You're just repeating the same spoon feeding all Christians get. Conservatives don't know how to argue.

Grow up? Wow, what a mature statement.

That's just your biased view because you are taking this debate personal when you know you are wrong.

You prove that yourself when you get offended by me showing you our bad logic. It's more than clear you are not trained in deductive reasoning. Your right conservatives don't know how to argue like liberals do they know how do debate with reason.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

That's just your biased view because you are taking this debate personal when you know you are wrong.

You prove that yourself when you get offended by me showing you our bad logic. It's more than clear you are not trained in deductive reasoning. Your right conservatives don't know how to argue like liberals do they know how do debate with reason.

Then I suppose it would be very liberal of me to point out how far off course this conversation has gotten.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Think about this carefully... how many people are there who seriously believe homosexuals should be excluded from the armed forces PURELY because of their sexual orientation?

For the record... How many homosexuals DO you know who have been fired for sexual harassment?Aren't you advertising YOUR sexual preferences by participating in this thread?

First, my comment about advertising your sexuality was made only in regards to employement and I should have been more specific, knowing the community here.

Second, my opinion about gays in the military is neutral. i amneither gay nor am I an expert on why gays should be excluded. I leave that up to the mental health experts.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

First, my comment about advertising your sexuality was made only in regards to employement and I should have been more specific, knowing the community here.

Second, my opinion about gays in the military is neutral. i amneither gay nor am I an expert on why gays should be excluded. I leave that up to the mental health experts.

I served 3 years and received and honorable discharge. I can guarantee you that there are gay Colonels, majors and generals in addition to enlisted in the US Army and other branches. In fact one of the first soldiers to receive a purple heart in Iraq was gay. Did you serve your country?

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Oh, I think I know why this story came to mind... It is like how us straight guys always fantasize about two women, well, I think it is about how you gay guys always fantasize about married men and ministers.

I can assure you it is not a fantasy. It is more then common that married men frequent Gay Bars, Cruise areas etc.

 

[Brieuse]

I served 3 years and received and honorable discharge. I can guarantee you that there are gay Colonels, majors and generals in addition to enlisted in the US Army and other branches. In fact one of the first soldiers to receive a purple heart in Iraq was gay. Did you serve your country?

Luckilly in my country it is against the law to discriminate on grounds of race, religion, orientation, etc etc.

Some quack in Narth won't be able to give any recommendation

 

[Brieuse]

I can assure you it is not a fantasy. It is more then common that married men frequent Gay Bars, Cruise areas etc.

Unfortunately it is. Married men who are gay too mostly. It's a sad deception.