Why is it Cool to vote for Obama?

[charlie_hunter]

blaming the homeless for their own situation is a culture kept alive and well by the conservative elements of society. forget the fact that many homeless are the victims of war policy and a lack of support for soldiers, another thing the Republicans are famous for.

but lets move onto something a bit more clear cut. heres the situation:

you're 5 years old and you live in Zimbabwe. you are dying because of a lack of food and the water you drink is tainted. your parents have been killed by the government and you live in a makeshift refugee camp on the border with another family. Where's the choice there?? that 5 year old chose that life? can that 5 year old just 'fix himself up' how can you choose the help the unborn but not the living infants? because they're not American? if not, then do you advocate that abortion should be illegal only in america but acceptable in other countries, because non-american babies will be killed?

 

[swtldy622]

Charming, thanks.

You're welcome. I aim to please.

 

[trOlliJokinen]

You're welcome. I aim to please.

so you aim too, please.

 

[swtldy622]

so you aim too, please.

Yep, it's just you.

 

[Sketcher]

ut lets move onto something a bit more clear cut. heres the situation:

you're 5 years old and you live in Zimbabwe. you are dying because of a lack of food and the water you drink is tainted. your parents have been killed by the government and you live in a makeshift refugee camp on the border with another family. Where's the choice there?? that 5 year old chose that life? can that 5 year old just 'fix himself up' how can you choose the help the unborn but not the living infants? because they're not American? if not, then do you advocate that abortion should be illegal only in america but acceptable in other countries, because non-american babies will be killed?

For situations like that, we have missionaries and charities. And recently, for people who wanted a state-sponsored version of the same, the Peace Corps.

I would not advocate abortion for that couple in that country. I would advocate a good government that does not grossly waste resources and kill its own people.

 

[charlie_hunter]

For situations like that, we have missionaries and charities. And recently, for people who wanted a state-sponsored version of the same, the Peace Corps.

I would not advocate abortion for that couple in that country. I would advocate a good government that does not grossly waste resources and kill its own people.

Advocate or legislate? why not instead of making the abortion solution law or government responsibility, why not just make it something that missionaries and charities take care of? and why not advocate good choice rather then law. because the American government could do a massive amount to alivate the suffering of innocents in this world, but its voters just dont care one bit. its all about abortion.

here's the bottom line. there is a complete lack of consistancey when you say you are 'pro life' and against abortion because you have a moral objection to the infliction of death upon the innocent defenseless and those with no choice. BUT IGNORE through one issue voting, every living innocent and defenseless person on the planet.

one issue voting is hypocarcy. and if you dont think it exists. ask yourself, would you vote for a party that belives abortion is leagal? if you say no off that fact alone, you are one issue voting. I am strongly against abortion myself, but i voted for the party in Australia that traditionally supports its legalisation. i think they got that wrong, but they more than make up for it with what they got right.

 

[Sketcher]

Advocate or legislate? why not instead of making the abortion solution law or government responsibility, why not just make it something that missionaries and charities take care of? and why not advocate good choice rather then law. because the American government could do a massive amount to alivate the suffering of innocents in this world, but its voters just dont care one bit. its all about abortion.

Who said the only solution to me or other pro-lifers was the law? Do you not know of the many pro-life pregnancy centers which concentrate on finding solutions for women with crisis pregnancies? Charity to help the mother and baby and law to protect the life of said baby are not mutually exclusive. There are many illegal abortions done in Nigeria; it is not an argument for legal abortion, but it sure is an argument for more charities to help those mothers.

here's the bottom line. there is a complete lack of consistancey when you say you are 'pro life' and against abortion because you have a moral objection to the infliction of death upon the innocent defenseless and those with no choice. BUT IGNORE through one issue voting, every living innocent and defenseless person on the planet.

one issue voting is hypocarcy. and if you dont think it exists. ask yourself, would you vote for a party that belives abortion is leagal? if you say no off that fact alone, you are one issue voting. I am strongly against abortion myself, but i voted for the party in Australia that traditionally supports its legalisation. i think they got that wrong, but they more than make up for it with what they got right.

I'm not a one-issue voter. The Democrats have it wrong down the line - economics, national defense, education, health care, justice, the whole bit.

 

[* kittie *]

I seriously don't get this, is it because he's not a White Man like McCain? Is it because voting for Obama is a political statement of "sticking it to the man" in Politics? Is it because MTV endorses him? Or his Hollywood supporters?

I do not trust Obama, not one bit.

 

[Fremdin]

How come?

 

[intricatic]

blaming the homeless for their own situation is a culture kept alive and well by the conservative elements of society. forget the fact that many homeless are the victims of war policy and a lack of support for soldiers, another thing the Republicans are famous for.

but lets move onto something a bit more clear cut. heres the situation:

you're 5 years old and you live in Zimbabwe. you are dying because of a lack of food and the water you drink is tainted. your parents have been killed by the government and you live in a makeshift refugee camp on the border with another family. Where's the choice there?? that 5 year old chose that life? can that 5 year old just 'fix himself up' how can you choose the help the unborn but not the living infants? because they're not American? if not, then do you advocate that abortion should be illegal only in america but acceptable in other countries, because non-american babies will be killed?

My government is not the overseer of Zimbabwe. If we decided to make a pre-emptive strike against the corrupt government of Zimbabwe, however, in order to help alleviate some of the suffering caused by a corrupt government, I'm sure the liberals would strongly protest. So what do we do? Global socialism is a failed policy in the world stage and I would not support anyone who advocates such a position. The only difference between that position and the position laid out in the communist manifesto is in the semantics.

 

[GQ Chris]

I do not trust Obama, not one bit.

Me neither.

 

[GQ Chris]

Just like someone here said on another thread, I would vote for Pol Pot before Obama.

 

[GQ Chris]

So I got into it with one of my Coworkers at work, he was shocked to find out I was Conservative when he asked what I thought of Governor Palin's speech, lol.

He's actually not a bad guy, and one of the people in the office that I like, but surprise surprise he didn't take it too well when he found out that I didn't like Obama.

 

[* kittie *]

haha I try not to get into discussing politics with my liberal friends for that reason. They all seem to get more upset for some reason, if I state a different idea. I don't mind debating, but most of the time, to me, seems like there's no reason to. They're usually just looking to start something, and we both know neither will change our minds. Dunno...That's how my experience has been over the years.

Did anyone watch the McCain speech earlier? That protester that stormed into the convention. haha Crazy.

 

[joanna1]

I wish people would put more thought into voting than merely deciding that a candidate is "good" or "bad" based on the fact he's pro or anti abortion. It's so paradoxical that many politicians "get away with murder" (quite literaly) hiding behind the cover of being "anti-abortion".

So in the words of my missionary wife, conservative christian mother, "If I was american, I think I'd have to vote for Obama. Because so much of what McCain says is frighteningly dangerous and impossible to reconcile with christian values".


And abortions are legal already. Practicaly speaking, having an anti-abortion candidate in power isn't going to change things, abortion isn't going to disappear like that.
Not that abortion is a big enough issue to trump all the other issues put together, no way.

 

[justagirl08]

Joanna,

Please explain to me how Obama's stance is more Christian. I see nothing, as a Conversative Christian American that stands in line with my faith.

Again, what I am finding more and more interesting is how non-Americans are commenting on our elections. Their information is not based completely on what is actually happening here in the US.

I would vote against Obama and I am because his stance doesn't line up with my Christian values.

Also, the assertion about abortion you have given is incorrect. There are possibilities of having abortions come in that are dealin with the last trimester and so forth. It is a huge issue in this country and should be treated equally as other issues.

I believe I am now more ashamed of Christians sayng what was posted in the above post. If Christ had said something along that lines, where would we be?

J

 

[Reanimation]

Again, what I am finding more and more interesting is how non-Americans are commenting on our elections.

Considering that we're bludgeoned with information relating to the presidential race daily here, it's kind of hard not to.

 

[Fremdin]

Just like someone here said on another thread, I would vote for Pol Pot before Obama.

I would love to hear an explanation of why Pol Pot over Barrack Obama

 

[GQ Chris]

I wish people would put more thought into voting than merely deciding that a candidate is "good" or "bad" based on the fact he's pro or anti abortion. It's so paradoxical that many politicians "get away with murder" (quite literaly) hiding behind the cover of being "anti-abortion".

So in the words of my missionary wife, conservative christian mother, "If I was american, I think I'd have to vote for Obama. Because so much of what McCain says is frighteningly dangerous and impossible to reconcile with christian values".


And abortions are legal already. Practicaly speaking, having an anti-abortion candidate in power isn't going to change things, abortion isn't going to disappear like that.
Not that abortion is a big enough issue to trump all the other issues put together, no way.

Obama's pro abortion stance is not the only reason I don't like him. I pretty much disagree with every single policy/philosophy he stands for. Pretty much everything, he is a Left Wing Radical, McCain is neither a true Conservative either, although I know he would be a more capable President than Obama in terms of Moral Courage and also Leadership experience.

 

[Markus6]

I would love to hear an explanation of why Pol Pot over Barrack Obama

Seconded.