Why is it Cool to vote for Obama?

[swtldy622]

I've known women who've had abortions and I don't judge them either. It's their choice. I hate that they did it but it's their right. My best friend had one in high school. I hated it but I was there for her.

Yeah, I know women that have too. It really makes me cringe to know that they did that, but what can you do?

 

[trOlliJokinen]

But surely you believe a woman doesn't have the right to kill her child once it is born. If it is a child in the womb what's the difference?

I'm gonna guess that since it's in your body, you have the right. Why can't people understand it's not about doing it, but the right to choose to do it?

 

[Sketcher]

I'm gonna guess that since it's in your body, you have the right. Why can't people understand it's not about doing it, but the right to choose to do it?

Because we don't have the right to choose to commit other forms of murder. It's a double standard.

 

[swtldy622]

I'm gonna guess that since it's in your body, you have the right. Why can't people understand it's not about doing it, but the right to choose to do it?

This is exactly why I don't debate politics with people. You can't have your own opinion without negative backlash, sarcasm, and slick remarks. I am going to agree to disagree with you. You have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine. Isn't it nice to live in a free country?

 

[trOlliJokinen]

Because we don't have the right to choose to commit other forms of murder. It's a double standard.

Yeah and since it's the only double standard, let's get rid of it. I think it's funny, everyone will fight about giving the baby a chance to live but once it's out no one cares anymore. "Oh you're born now, good luck". It's immoral to have an abortion, you're damned to Hell for killing the baby, but if the kid is 30 years old asking for a dollar to grab some food, tough luck, get a job bum.

 

[Markus6]

This is exactly why I don't debate politics with people. You can't have your own opinion without negative backlash, sarcasm, and slick remarks.

Was this addressed to me?

Yeah and since it's the only double standard, let's get rid of it. I think it's funny, everyone will fight about giving the baby a chance to live but once it's out no one cares anymore. "Oh you're born now, good luck". It's immoral to have an abortion, you're damned to Hell for killing the baby, but if the kid is 30 years old asking for a dollar to grab some food, tough luck, get a job bum.

Who is saying that?

 

[trOlliJokinen]

This is exactly why I don't debate politics with people. You can't have your own opinion without negative backlash, sarcasm, and slick remarks. I am going to agree to disagree with you. You have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine. Isn't it nice to live in a free country?

I wasn't arguing either way, and I'm pretty sure you have no idea about my beliefs. I was explaining the reasoning behind other's thoughts.

 

[trOlliJokinen]

Was this addressed to me?

Who is saying that?

Society as a whole, basically. I'm just saying that people are so caught up in the pro-choice pro-life debates that they forget that once people grow up sometimes they need help too.

 

[charlie_hunter]

Yeah and since it's the only double standard, let's get rid of it. I think it's funny, everyone will fight about giving the baby a chance to live but once it's out no one cares anymore. "Oh you're born now, good luck". It's immoral to have an abortion, you're damned to Hell for killing the baby, but if the kid is 30 years old asking for a dollar to grab some food, tough luck, get a job bum.

you reflect the point i made earlier. the fundies etc, make abortion a one issue vote yet if their reasons (most of which are valid) for oposing abortion should be carried through the whole of the babies life.

if you're pro-life you should be pro-LIFE. not pro-its born now its on its own. They argue correctly that an unborn baby cannot defend themselves yet somehow the infants in 3rd world nations can? because that's a complete no issue with Republicans. etc etc

 

[Sketcher]

Yeah and since it's the only double standard, let's get rid of it.

When it comes to directly taking a human life, I'd say that's the one that goes to the top of the pile.

I think it's funny, everyone will fight about giving the baby a chance to live but once it's out no one cares anymore. "Oh you're born now, good luck". It's immoral to have an abortion, you're damned to Hell for killing the baby, but if the kid is 30 years old asking for a dollar to grab some food, tough luck, get a job bum.

Would you say the bum should just kill himself? Or get a job? This isn't even close to being comparable to abortion.

 

[trOlliJokinen]

When it comes to directly taking a human life, I'd say that's the one that goes to the top of the pile.


Would you say the bum should just kill himself? Or get a job? This isn't even close to being comparable to abortion.

If no one hires him because of his appearance and he starves to death, then how is that any better than aborting him at birth?

My point is, people wanna make a big deal about making sure the baby is born but once he's born most people care less. Sadly, I know from firsthand experience.

 

[Sketcher]

you reflect the point i made earlier. the fundies etc, make abortion a one issue vote yet if their reasons (most of which are valid) for oposing abortion should be carried through the whole of the babies life.

Caring does not necessarily mean entitlements. And in this country, bums know where to get free meals. When they ask for money, it is usually for drugs or alcohol. Even social workers will tell you this.

 

[swtldy622]

Was this addressed to me?

Not necessarily. Just people in general who backup their arguements with the aforementioned things. But if the shoe fits, then yes.

 

[trOlliJokinen]

Caring does not necessarily mean entitlements. And in this country, bums know where to get free meals. When they ask for money, it is usually for drugs or alcohol. Even social workers will tell you this.

Awesome

 

[Sketcher]

If no one hires him because of his appearance and he starves to death, then how is that any better than aborting him at birth?

It's not directly killing him. Abortion would be. Furthermore, he has a chance to clean himself up and get an entry-level job. Babies in the womb don't have that kind of freedom.

My point is, people wanna make a big deal about making sure the baby is born but once he's born most people care less. Sadly, I know from firsthand experience.

Direct murder is a shocker like that, what can I say.

 

[Sketcher]

Awesome

How many social workers do you know? How many communes have you stayed at with an open-door policy to those who need a meal?

 

[trOlliJokinen]

It's not directly killing him. Abortion would be. Furthermore, he has a chance to clean himself up and get an entry-level job. Babies in the womb don't have that kind of freedom.


Direct murder is a shocker like that, what can I say.

once again, awesome. Good to know that it is just that easy.

 

[trOlliJokinen]

How many social workers do you know? How many communes have you stayed at with an open-door policy to those who need a meal?

Funny because when I tried to get help everyone said they couldn't help me because I didn't have kids. Virginity is a bummer.

 

[Sketcher]

Funny because when I tried to get help everyone said they couldn't help me because I didn't have kids. Virginity is a bummer.

That's too bad. That shouldn't happen.

 

[Markus6]

If no one hires him because of his appearance and he starves to death, then how is that any better than aborting him at birth?

My point is, people wanna make a big deal about making sure the baby is born but once he's born most people care less. Sadly, I know from firsthand experience.

Well some of us would like to make a big deal of both. It's not either/or.

Not necessarily. Just people in general who backup their arguements with the aforementioned things. But if the shoe fits, then yes.

Charming, thanks.