Why is God so hidden? Why must we seek Him to Find Him?

[DogmaHunter]

My faith is not blind. You are blind. You cant see my faith with your eyes and so you pretend it doesn't exist.

??

I think you don't understand what the "blind" part in the expression "blind faith" is about...

You say love is not logical

You must be confusing me with someone else, because I never stated this. Nore do I even understand what it means...

, you deny the life that is in anyone you love.

I don't even deny that the people I don't love are alive. I have no clue what you are talking about.

You devalue them with your scientific calculator, and they are nothing but things.

Que? You're making less and less sense with every sentence.
I value human life, what are you on about?

You may see animals and plants, but you cant see the human soul. Isnt that a bit sad?

What is a "soul"?
How do I differentiate a "soul" from something that does not exist?

 

[Extraneous]

???

what goes "without saying"?

how absurd something was.

 

[Extraneous]

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I think you don't understand what the "blind" part in the expression "blind faith" is about...




You must be confusing me with someone else, because I never stated this. Nore do I even understand what it means...



I don't even deny that the people I don't love are alive. I have no clue what you are talking about.



Que? You're making less and less sense with every sentence.
I value human life, what are you on about?



What is a "soul"?
How do I differentiate a "soul" from something that does not exist?

Ok then.

 

[DogmaHunter]

how absurd something was.

Owkay.... So, that's your answer?
This is the equivalent of answering "BECAUSE!!!" when asking "why".

Ok then.

Why don't you just admit to not being able to answer the questions?
That's fine, you know. Just say it: "i believe it all on faith alone".

 

[Extraneous]

Why don't you just admit to not being able to answer the questions?
That's fine, you know. Just say it: "i believe it all on faith alone".

Not according to your perception of faith.

 

[HitchSlap]

Not according to your perception of faith.

"Faith is believing something you know ain't true."

 

[The Cadet]

A human king can not do it.
God can do it (by definition). Nobody is fooled.
There are more theists than atheists in this world, then and now. You should respect that fact.

There are more non-Christians in the world than Christians. If God is obvious, why do most people not believe in Him, but rather in some other Deity or Deities?

There is evidence. Its spiritually discerned.

Would you care to explain what this means? How does one "spiritually discern" something?

I believe that arguing against God is actually a deep down need to know him. I argued against God a little.

Ooh, while you're on the subject of mind-reading, what number am I thinking of? It would behoove you not to assume things about the positions of others.

 

[SteveB28]

If the court could look into a persons mind to decide guilt or innocence, they would not be fallible in their judgment. We however know they cannot, and that they are fallible. You want to put God, who is holy, under mans faulty court of judgment. You also want to put God under microscope instead of faith. God demands faith.

Your god "demands" nothing!

The only ones that have demanded your faith are other humans! You cannot show me one thing that was ever written by a god. All you can show me are demands written by men, claiming that they are passing on the words of gods!

 

[Extraneous]

Your god "demands" nothing!

The only ones that have demanded your faith are other humans! You cannot show me one thing that was ever written by a god. All you can show me are demands written by men, claiming that they are passing on the words of gods!

Have a good day Steve.

 

[SteveB28]

Have a good day Steve.

I always have - all 32,000 or so.

And you continue to keep avoiding difficult questions - but I wonder if you can keep it up for as many days.

 

[Extraneous]

I always have - all 32,000 or so.

And you continue to keep avoiding difficult questions - but I wonder if you can keep it up for as many days.

lol. Lets hope not.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Why is god hidden. Isnt the answer that "____" ?

 

[juvenissun]

There are more non-Christians in the world than Christians. If God is obvious, why do most people not believe in Him, but rather in some other Deity or Deities?

Which "god" is obvious?
None.
Yet, more people believe in god than those who don't.
Why?
Are you wiser than them? Or, possibly, less wiser?

 

[The Cadet]

Which "god" is obvious?
None.
Yet, more people believe in god than those who don't.

But this is misleading, because while they're all generally supernatural constructs with incredible powers, what qualities they have clearly differentiates them.

Why?

Childhood indoctrination, very bad logic, social pressures, there are a host of reasons why.

 

[SteveB28]

Which "god" is obvious?
None.
Yet, more people believe in god than those who don't.
Why?
Are you wiser than them? Or, possibly, less wiser?

As was explained to you earlier, more people believe in a god other than yours.

Are all those people "less wiser" (sic) than your lot, or just as deluded perhaps?

 

[juvenissun]

Childhood indoctrination, very bad logic, social pressures, there are a host of reasons why.

So all theists have some negative experience and suffered the consequence. While all atheist are wiser and luckier people?
I don't think even you would believe what you said.

 

[juvenissun]

As was explained to you earlier, more people believe in a god other than yours.

Are all those people "less wiser" (sic) than your lot, or just as deluded perhaps?

Of course not. They are even much wiser. Christianity could be the religion with the simplest doctrine. A farmer can perfect it without reading anything.
Don't shift goalpost. To you, the problem is a choice between has god or has no god.
Once you think there is god, then you may start to consider which god.

 

[The Cadet]

So all theists have some negative experience and suffered the consequence.

Did I say that? No. (In fact, I didn't say anything close to that, so I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.) However, simply saying, "A lot of people believe X," is no guarantee that X is true. There are a lot of really bad reasons why theists believe in God. You may have good reasons, but a lot of Christians don't, in outright transparent ways - spend some time watching The Atheist Experience and you can get a feel for how chronic this problem is. I'm not sure you have good reasons for believing either. I certainly have yet to encounter any good reason.

 

[juvenissun]

Did I say that? No. (In fact, I didn't say anything close to that, so I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.) However, simply saying, "A lot of people believe X," is no guarantee that X is true. There are a lot of really bad reasons why theists believe in God. You may have good reasons, but a lot of Christians don't, in outright transparent ways - spend some time watching The Atheist Experience and you can get a feel for how chronic this problem is. I'm not sure you have good reasons for believing either. I certainly have yet to encounter any good reason.

Faith can be established by any reason, simple or complicated.
So the quality of reason seems not to be a major factor in faith. And it is wrong to attack faith by reasons.

 

[The Cadet]

Faith can be established by any reason, simple or complicated.
So the quality of reason seems not to be a major factor in faith. And it is wrong to attack faith by reasons.

"I just believe because I believe" is one of the worst reasons.