Why is evolution taught in our schools?

[Subduction Zone]

I hardly ever report anyone; but I've been reported more times than there are arms at an octopus convention.

Same here.

 

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Ditto for misrepresenting a post taken out of context.

Now how did I do that?

 

[AV1611VET]

Trying to imply that others are "tares".

Nice try; won't work.

 

[Aman777]

Where did I ever do that? You are making a rather obvious error here. Here is a hint. if you want to claim that God told us anything you are placing the burden of proof upon yourself. Please don't conflate an allegory at best with "God telling us" something.

God told us the complete History of the Creation of the perfect Heaven in the first chapter of Genesis. He also told us HOW He did it in the DETAILS found in the entirety of the rest of the Bible. God has but 6 Days/Ages of creating, since the 7th Day/Age is Eternity which has no ending. That's God's Historic Truth which you cannot refute and which you just learned. Want to try and refute it in any way?

And you do not seem to understand it but you just admitted that there is no reliable evidence for creationism. Nice shot.

You don't seem to understand that I have God's Word for it which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. IOW, every discovery of Science and History AGREES with Scripture IF you have the proper understanding, which you obviously do not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God told us the complete History of the Creation of the perfect Heaven in the first chapter of Genesis. He also told us HOW He did it in the DETAILS found in the entirety of the rest of the Bible. God has but 6 Days/Ages of creating, since the 7th Day/Age is Eternity which has no ending. That's God's Historic Truth which you cannot refute and which you just learned. Want to try and refute it in any way?

No, wrong on several counts. First Genesis is merely allegory and morality tales at best. That it does not match up to reality tells us this. Nor does he tell us how he did it. It merely says that the did so. The stories of Genesis have already been refuted, there is no need for me to support my claims. Look at how you have to make a very strange reinterpretation of the book. Your interpretation does not match that of any other Christian that I know of.

You don't seem to understand that I have God's Word for it which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind. IOW, every discovery of Science and History AGREES with Scripture IF you have the proper understanding, which you obviously do not.

No, you have the Bible, which never even claims to be "God's word". All you have are verses taken out of context that you interpret to mean that it is "God's word". If you want to claim that the Bible is "God's word" you put another entire level of burden of proof upon yourself.

 

[Aman777]

I hardly ever report anyone; but I've been reported more times than there are arms at an octopus convention.

Me too. Sometimes a new moderator will think that I'm an enemy of God instead of a child of His. Then, they notice that I post supporting Scripture for my views and leave me alone.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nice try; won't work.

It does not "work" as being reportable, but it wa what you were doing. Tell me, what other purpose does such a false claim serve?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Me too. Sometimes a new moderator will think that I'm an enemy of God instead of a child of His. Then, they notice that I post supporting Scripture for my views and leave me alone.

Now you are implying that moderation is biased against non-Christians. You might be right, but that sort of discussion is also against the rules here.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

We're mutant, simian, copy-errors, made in the image & likeness of God, are we?

That's because when you compromise Genesis, you get nothing in return...

 

[Aman777]

No, wrong on several counts. First Genesis is merely allegory and morality tales at best. That it does not match up to reality tells us this. Nor does he tell us how he did it. It merely says that the did so.

How did Genesis know that it was hundreds of millions of years after the big bang (3rd Day) until the first stars lit up. (4th Day) Today's Science is just now learning this. https://www.space.com › Science & Astronomy

The stories of Genesis have already been refuted, there is no need for me to support my claims. Look at how you have to make a very strange reinterpretation of the book. Your interpretation does not match that of any other Christian that I know of.

Amen, since I live in today's world with the "increased knowledge" God is pouring out upon the people of the last days. Your precious ToE is about to be debunked, Scientifically.

No, you have the Bible, which never even claims to be "God's word".

False. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration (God breathed) of God, AND 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost IS God. You have been refuted Scripturally.

All you have are verses taken out of context that you interpret to mean that it is "God's word".

It is God's Word authored by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth.

If you want to claim that the Bible is "God's word" you put another entire level of burden of proof upon yourself.

So be it. Maybe I've been too hard on the people who obviously cannot understand Genesis. I'll take the responsibility since my future life depends on it. Your's too. God bless you and me

 

[Subduction Zone]

How did Genesis know that it was hundreds of millions of years after the big bang (3rd Day) until the first stars lit up. (4th Day) Today's Science is just now learning this. https://www.space.com › Science & Astronomy

It didn't. You are reinterpreting after the fact.

Amen, since I live in today's world with the "increased knowledge" God is pouring out upon the people of the last days. Your precious ToE is about to be debunked, Scientifically.

When and if that ever happens scientists will accept it. But there is no evidence for any other approach to date. This is why no one takes claims like you made seriously. And this is why you should learn the basics of science.

False. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration (God breathed) of God, AND 2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost IS God. You have been refuted Scripturally.

Nope, neither verse helps you. Why did you cut the Timothy verse short? That is quote mining, an improper approach to using the Bible. I can show twelve times that the Bible says "There is no God" if I quote mine to that extent. Does that mean that the Bible says there is no God?

But thanks for playing.

It is God's Word authored by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth.

Another empty claim that you cannot support.

So be it. Maybe I've been too hard on the people who obviously cannot understand Genesis. I'll take the responsibility since my future life depends on it. Your's too. God bless you and me

Correction, your interpretation of Genesis is flawed as well. You have to pretend that it is real and then jump through ridiculous hoops to maintain that belief. Which includes beliefs that no other Christian has such as your "two floods" interpretation. It is much easier to understand if one takes the much more correct approach that the stories in it are morality tales. That would still go along with the 2 Timothy verse that you improperly quote mined. Let me finish it for you:

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,"

That you had to quote mine a verse, that you could not post the entire short verse, tells us that even you know it did not support your argument.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

It didn't. You are reinterpreting after the fact.

Kind of like science does since they once thought it only 8 billion years old. Not that I think Aman is anywhere close to the truth....

But then you'll ignore Relativity, so it doesn't do us much good to discuss age....

 

[Aman777]

It didn't. You are reinterpreting after the fact.

No, I am reinterpreting from a person who lives in the last days before Jesus returns. God hid His Truth in Genesis chapter one and only the Christians of the last days have the increased knowledge necessary to recognize that Fact. Daniel 12:4

When and if that ever happens scientists will accept it. But there is no evidence for any other approach to date. This is why no one takes claims like you made seriously. And this is why you should learn the basics of science.

I know the basics and I've seen your presentation but you can post it again if you like...BUT...your knowledge is of a changeable, man-made, assumption which changes daily, in some cases. God's Truth changes not. It doesn't have to change since it will be opened and read in Heaven for it is the History of God's creation of the perfect Heaven.

Why did you cut the Timothy verse short? That is quote mining, an improper approach to using the Bible.

Gripe gripe and murmer is indicated. Post it and show me where I have changed the meaning IF you think you can.

Another empty claim that you cannot support.

Sure I can but you wouldn't accept it, even if one rose from the dead.

Correction, your interpretation of Genesis is flawed as well. You have to pretend that it is real and then jump through ridiculous hoops to maintain that belief. Which includes beliefs that no other Christian has such as your "two floods" interpretation.

What two floods? There was but one flood which sunk Adam's firmament in Lake Van, 11,000 years ago. It totally destroyed everything on that doomed Heaven/Universe. There was NO flood on the present 3rd rock from the Sun, since we are covered with water more than 2/3rds now. Rocks don't dissolve except in FIRE. 2Pe 3:10

t is much easier to understand if one takes the much more correct approach that the stories in it are morality tales.

Hey, is that WHY we have over 30k denominations today? When you change it, why not change it to fit your denomination views? Then, just make up anything you want which you can sell to the faithful...etc Does that explain why I support my views with the agreement of Scripture, science and history? Faith plus Fact equals God's Truth.

That would still go along with the 2 Timothy verse that you improperly quote mined. Let me finish it for you:

"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,"

Sorry, but you posted some altered version of God's Holy Word. Please find the KJV before you get confused more than what you are already.

That you had to quote mine a verse, that you could not post the entire short verse, tells us that even you know it did not support your argument.

False, UNLESS you, the self-appointed Judge of this contest, can show us where I posted anything which changed the meaning of the verse AND I used an Old Bible which hasn't been altered to the whims of the modernists and religionists. You act like I have to post the entire Bible, in context, to explain that God breathed His Holy Word from inside the men who wrote the words down on paper.

 

[Aman777]

Not that I think Aman is anywhere close to the truth....

Sure I am. He lives within me. His name is Jesus:

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.

God bless you

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Sure I am. He lives within me. His name is Jesus:

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.

God bless you

Really? The Spirit of God lives in me....

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

So I'm not really sure what spirit you have, but I know what one I have, and it is the one Jesus sent, not Jesus himself.......

It is the comforter which gives me wisdom.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

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Kind of like science does since they once thought it only 8 billion years old. Not that I think Aman is anywhere close to the truth....

But then you'll ignore Relativity, so it doesn't do us much good to discuss age....

The age of the universe has been narrowed down over the years. I don't know of any source that says it was eight billion years in age. Just as the speed of light's estimated velocity kept "changing" as our ability to measure it improved.

And no, no one is ignoring relativity. Why did you bring it up? I am betting that you are misapplying the concept.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sure I am. He lives within me. His name is Jesus:

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.

God bless you

And this abuse of verses is why so many Christians think that they have the only correct interpretation of the Bible. They think they are right because it "feels right" rather than because they can support their claims with proper evidence or even proper translation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, I am reinterpreting from a person who lives in the last days before Jesus returns. God hid His Truth in Genesis chapter one and only the Christians of the last days have the increased knowledge necessary to recognize that Fact. Daniel 12:4



I know the basics and I've seen your presentation but you can post it again if you like...BUT...your knowledge is of a changeable, man-made, assumption which changes daily, in some cases. God's Truth changes not. It doesn't have to change since it will be opened and read in Heaven for it is the History of God's creation of the perfect Heaven.



Gripe gripe and murmer is indicated. Post it and show me where I have changed the meaning IF you think you can.



Sure I can but you wouldn't accept it, even if one rose from the dead.



What two floods? There was but one flood which sunk Adam's firmament in Lake Van, 11,000 years ago. It totally destroyed everything on that doomed Heaven/Universe. There was NO flood on the present 3rd rock from the Sun, since we are covered with water more than 2/3rds now. Rocks don't dissolve except in FIRE. 2Pe 3:10



Hey, is that WHY we have over 30k denominations today? When you change it, why not change it to fit your denomination views? Then, just make up anything you want which you can sell to the faithful...etc Does that explain why I support my views with the agreement of Scripture, science and history? Faith plus Fact equals God's Truth.



Sorry, but you posted some altered version of God's Holy Word. Please find the KJV before you get confused more than what you are already.



False, UNLESS you, the self-appointed Judge of this contest, can show us where I posted anything which changed the meaning of the verse AND I used an Old Bible which hasn't been altered to the whims of the modernists and religionists. You act like I have to post the entire Bible, in context, to explain that God breathed His Holy Word from inside the men who wrote the words down on paper.

Oh my, the simple fact is that you lost by quote mining and reinterpreting the Bible to support your own agenda without any support at all. Try again.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

And no, no one is ignoring relativity. Why did you bring it up? I am betting that you are misapplying the concept.

I'm betting you will simply refuse to consider time dilation in a universe they claim expanded faster than c and has only continued to increase in acceleration.......

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm betting you will simply refuse to consider time dilation in a universe they claim expanded faster than c and has only continued to increase in acceleration.......

Like I said, you are confused. Time dilation does not help you with a young universe. And it is a misapplication of relativity. You can't use dilation to explain a young universe since when light undergoes dilation it is red shifted. You would red shift all of the light to the point that it would not be visible light any longer. The stars would go dark with your explanation. I can link a long talk on this where a physicist tried to explain this to your buddy Kent.

EDIT:

It is a bit long and tedious because Kent kept repeating the same errors, over and over and over and over and over.