Why is earth's AGE important to you?

[Platte]

Well you responded to a statement I made about a post that claimed time was different in the garden of Eden

Ridiculous pseudoscience. Have you read how they determine that from ice cores? It’s so not scientific.

 

[Aaron112]

When did time begin and when did the dinosaurs die?

In the beginning.
After that.

 

[Platte]

When did time begin and when did the dinosaurs die?

Time started “In the beginning”. Noah flood

 

[Aaron112]

Time started “In the beginning”. Noah flood

Some or many dinosaurs died when they were killed by men.

 

[Platte]

Recorded History and the DNA evidence supports that Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago. Bishop Ussher talks about this in his 2,000 page book. Which I do have a copy of and I do read it.

Does Bishop Ussher believe that Adam was created as a man?

 

[Aaron112]

"1 Dino would feed a lot of people id guess"
If they have a green card or other authority to serve food, yes.

 

[Diamond72]

Does Bishop Ussher believe that Adam was created as a man?

Bishop James Ussher does not explicitly state "Adam was created as a fully formed human being" in his book "Annals of the World.

"Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."

The "dust of the ground" can be thought of as representing the basic elements and materials found in the Earth.

Carl Sagan famously said, "We are made of star stuff." He explained that the atoms in our bodies originated from the interiors of stars. He emphasized that elements like carbon, oxygen, and nitrogen were formed through nuclear fusion in stars and released into space through supernova explosions.

Theistic evolution is the belief that God uses the process of evolution to bring about the development of life on Earth. It attempts to reconcile religious beliefs about creation with scientific theories of evolution.

I do not have to prove anything. You are the one trying to prove that Scientific facts are not true. Science is true, our Bible is 100% accurate and true. There is no contradiction between Science and the Bible.

 

[Platte]

Bishop James Ussher does not explicitly state "Adam was created as a fully formed human being" in his book "Annals of the World.

"Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."

The "dust of the ground" can be thought of as representing the basic elements and materials found in the Earth.

Carl Sagan famously said, "We are made of star stuff." He explained that the atoms in our bodies originated from the interiors of stars. He emphasized that elements like carbon, oxygen, and nitrogen were formed through nuclear fusion in stars and released into space through supernova explosions.

Theistic evolution is the belief that God uses the process of evolution to bring about the development of life on Earth. It attempts to reconcile religious beliefs about creation with scientific theories of evolution.

I do not have to prove anything. You are the one trying to prove that Scientific facts are not true. Science is true, our Bible is 100% accurate and true. There is no contradiction between Science and the Bible.

Do you believe Adam was created as a man? That obviously goes against science.

 

[Diamond72]

Does Bishop Ussher believe that Adam was created as a man?

Do you think Adam was a women? Eve was the first women. Some people say Women was her first name.

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[Platte]

Do you think Adam was a women?

No

 

[Diamond72]

No

Yet the women came from Adam. God made them male and female so He could unite them back together as one.

 

[Diamond72]

Do you believe Adam was created as a man? That obviously goes against science.

In the original Hebrew text, the word used is "צלע" (tzela), which means "side" or "rib." When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (the Septuagint), the word "tzela" was translated to the Greek word "πλευρά" (pleura), which also means "side" or "rib."

The translation and interpretation of this word have shaped the traditional understanding of this biblical passage.

 

[Platte]

In the original Hebrew text, the word used is "צלע" (tzela), which means "side" or "rib." When the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek (the Septuagint), the word "tzela" was translated to the Greek word "πλευρά" (pleura), which also means "side" or "rib."

The translation and interpretation of this word have shaped the traditional understanding of this biblical passage.

I asked if you believed Adam was created as a Man. Like a 20 year old man for example. Meaning he wasn’t born from a womb but created as an adult.

 

[Diamond72]

I asked if you believed Adam was created as a Man. Like a 20 year old man for example. Meaning he wasn’t born from a womb but created as an adult.

I believe God created Adam and all man in the womb just as David says in Psalms 139.

13For You formed my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are Your works, and I know this very well.
15My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be. 17How precious to me are Your thoughts, O God, how vast is their sum!"

Even Jesus was created in the womb and born into this world. So He went through the same experience that Adam went though. But you are going to believe what you want to believe. So there is no reason for me to explain to you want I believe. I believe the evidence that God gives us and you reject that evidence that God gives us. There is abundant overwelming evidence and you reject all of that.

Even God writes the book of our life at or before our conception. I have a daughter that never even made it to the womb. But she is still alive in Heaven today and I had a dream about her once. In the dream an angel was reading a book and I was told that what the book of her life. It was the job of that angel to help her become the person God created and intends for her to be.

AGAIN, I could write a book, many books talking about what I beleive. What do you give me about your beliefs? Nothing, just maybe five words is all you have to offer. John says all the books in the world would not be enough. So write me a book and give me the details on HOW you think God created Adam. Tell me HOW did God take a rib and create Eve from that rib.

John 21:25​

If they were all written in books, I don't suppose there would be room enough in the whole world for all the books.

I give you book after book after book about what God has done. What do you give me? NOTHING.

 

[Platte]

I believe God created Adam and all man in the womb just as David says in Psalms 139.

13For You formed my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are Your works, and I know this very well.
15My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be. 17How precious to me are Your thoughts, O God, how vast is their sum!"

Even Jesus was created in the womb and born into this world. So He went through the same experience that Adam went though. But you are going to believe what you want to believe. So there is no reason for me to explain to you want I believe. I believe the evidence that God gives us and you reject that evidence that God gives us. There is abundant overwelming evidence and you reject all of that.

Even God writes the book of our life at or before our conception. I have a daughter that never even made it to the womb. But she is still alive in Heaven today and I had a dream about her once. In the dream an angel was reading a book and I was told that what the book of her life. It was the job of that angel to help her become the person God created and intends for her to be.

AGAIN, I could write a book, many books talking about what I beleive. What do you give me about your beliefs? Nothing, just maybe five words is all you have to offer. John says all the books in the world would not be enough. So write me a book and give me the details on HOW you think God created Adam. Tell me HOW did God take a rib and create Eve from that rib.

John 21:25​

If they were all written in books, I don't suppose there would be room enough in the whole world for all the books.

I give you book after book after book about what God has done. What do you give me? NOTHING.

Well if nothing else I can say you are incorrigible

 

[Diamond72]

hWell if nothing else I can say you are incorrigible

If that is the case then Science is inherently corrigible. That is why I always check my facts. AI makes that very easy to do now a days. But just so I know for my own frame of reference. What is your attitude toward science and the facts. Because you seem to want to disregard them. Although some people believe in science and they believe in their Bible even when they do seem to contradict each other.

My dad believed the Bible but everyone had a different interpretation of the Bible and in that regard, he did not know who to believe. So he left it up to us to study the Bible for ourselves and arrive at our own conclusion. I remember once he took us to see a patient who had severe polio. He could not even change the pages of a book for himself and that was actually before TV was starting to catch on. My dad wanted us to see how happy they were even though they had to deal with severe adversity, even his patient died at around 21. For him that was real religion. It really sticks with me because he had the head of an adult and the body of a three year old. Yet at the time he was still alive.

The family was so grateful that my dad brought his family to visit them. They made a big fuss about it. I suppose their son did not have very many visitors. They could have put him in a institution. But they took care of him themselves.

 

[Platte]

If that is the case then Science is inherently corrigible. That is why I always check my facts. AI makes that very easy to do now a days. But just so I know for my own frame of reference. What is your attitude toward science and the facts. Because you seem to want to disregard them. Although some people believe in science and they believe in their Bible even when they do seem to contradict each other.

My dad believed the Bible but everyone had a different interpretation of the Bible and in that regard, he did not know who to believe. So he left it up to us to study the Bible for ourselves and arrive at our own conclusion. I remember once he took us to see a patient who had severe polio. He could not even change the pages of a book for himself and that was actually before TV was starting to catch on. My dad wanted us to see how happy they were even though they had to deal with severe adversity, even his patient died at around 21. For him that was real religion. It really sticks with me because he had the head of an adult and the body of a three year old. Yet at the time he was still alive.

The family was so grateful that my dad brought his family to visit them. They made a big fuss about it. I suppose their son did not have very many visitors. They could have put him in an institution. But they took care of him themselves.

I think science is great. It’s not always right - definitely wrong about some things but generally I think science has been very positive. Science doesn’t have a lot of facts.
I believe what the Bible says - you don’t. I don’t see anything in science that denies creation occurring 6000 years ago and taking 6 days. That’s the difference between us. The Bible says Adam was created - not born. Created as a man. That’s what the Bible says. It doesn’t say any of the things you believe. But that’s ok you can look at things however you want. I don’t even want to know your view on Jesus and salvation.

 

[Platte]

We are not changing anything. You are denying the witness and testimony God gives us with Science. The Bible requires two witnesses. The Bible is one and Science is the other. You need to quit flaming and accusing me everytime you do not agree with science because you violate the terms of service you agreed to when you signed up.

It is not against the terms of service to point out someone changing the Bible. I made little to no comments about science.

The ONLY way to get Science to line up with the Bible is for each day to be half of the day before.

No there is another way.

This comes from Gerold Schroeder. He has a PhD from MIT. Where did you get your PhD in astro physics from. Because you think you know more than they do.

They are wrong, that doesn’t make me know more then them.

I would give you the link but you show no indication in wanting to learn about this.

I hope you do not mind if I listen to the experts that puts more then five seconds into what they are saying. It is crazy that you think your five seconds can compare at all with their five years in masters degree and PhD programs.

My son is as computer engineer. He is trained to solve problems that a person with an associate degree can not solve. If they could pay less they would. But they have to hire the people that can get the job done.

By the way, I am a direct descendant of the Bible Translator who was Bloody Mary's first martyr in her attempt to attack the true church. He rejoiced that he was counted worth. He was a clergyman and Biblical editor who was burned at the stake on February 4, 1555, for refusing to recant his Protestant beliefs. His steadfastness in the face of persecution made him a significant figure in the history of the English Reformation. So we are used to being persecuted for defending our faith.

If you weren’t so stubborn and if really wanted to understand. God may open your heart to it. Again. There is nothing in science that denies creation as 6000 years ago and 6 days. Think outside the box- it’s all there for you.(I’ll help you…it all starts with Adam)

 

[Diamond72]

If you weren’t so stubborn and if really wanted to understand. God may open your heart to it.

You really need to quit attacking people and accusing them of what you are guilty of.

It is not against te terms of service to point out someone changing the Bible.

NO one is changing the Bible. We do not need others to interpret and translate the Bible for us. We can do that for ourselves. I have already explained that to you. There are MANY Bible translations. That means the translators can not agree among themselves as to what the Bible says. I can do the KJV only if you want, but that is NOT required on this form. If you are not interested that is fine. The ONLY thing I asked you is why do you reject Science. If you do not want to answer my question, that if fine.

They are wrong, that doesn’t make me know more then them.

Again what University did you get your PhD from if you think you know more than they do? Or are you just being anti semetic because he is "Jewish".

 

[Platte]

You really need to quit attacking people and accusing them of what you are guilty of.

NO one is changing the Bible. We do not need others to interpret and translate the Bible for us. We can do that for ourselves. I have already explained that to you. There are MANY Bible translations. That means the translators can not agree among themselves as to what the Bible says. I can do the KJV only if you want, but that is NOT required on this form. If you are not interested that is fine. The ONLY thing I asked you is why do you reject Science.

I don’t reject science. Science makes no claim one way or another as to God creating the universe/earth 6000 years ago and taking 6 days.

If you do not want to answer my question, that if fine.

Again what University did you get your PhD from if you think you know more than they do?

Or are you just being anti semetic because he is "Jewish".

Having a Bible conversation with you is difficult because you don’t believe what the Bible says. The Bible says creation took 6 days. That’s not my view. That’s not me knowing more than anyone. That’s not my interpretation. That’s what the Bible says. But you are saying that can’t be so what the Bible says must mean something else.
I’m saying. Yes it can be - and it’s not that difficult to understand how it could be