Why Is Darwinism So Dangerous? (5)

[Oncedeceived]

It is not my job to do your research. Present the information from any paper you like, I will read it, and I will discuss it with you. All I require is that you read it, too, which I know that you will not do.

I've actually been reading it. However, you don't present your information from the links you provide. Especially when you use your trusty linkhttp://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ to address almost everything.

 

[Oncedeceived]

There is every reason to believe it when we observe that it is the case.

Being self evident is not the same as evidence for evolution by non-intelligent means nor does it fit cohesively with that worldview.

 

[Loudmouth]

I've actually been reading it.

However, you don't present your information from the links you provide.[/quote]

Post 216, from this thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7824687/

I explained the findings of the paper in my own words, did the research, and presented it for everyone to see.

justlookinla still refuses to even touch it.

 

[Loudmouth]

Being self evident is not the same as evidence for evolution by non-intelligent means nor does it fit cohesively with that worldview.

I already showed you the evidence for evolutionary mechanisms in the human genome. Remember LTR divergence in ERV's? I have covered it several times and you dont' respond to it.

Read post 216 from the other thread, as referenced above.

 

[Loudmouth]

Why not? Someone else makes a claim about something they link and they want you to figure it out.

I know, right?

 

[Oncedeceived]

However, you don't present your information from the links you provide.

Post 216, from this thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7824687/

I explained the findings of the paper in my own words, did the research, and presented it for everyone to see.

justlookinla still refuses to even touch it.[/quote]

So did it upset you that he didn't read it? So why do you feel that it is ok to expect me to present the information for you? You have the link, you have the information and you should be expected to either read it or dismiss it out of hand. Do you wish to dismiss it out of hand?

 

[Oncedeceived]

I already showed you the evidence for evolutionary mechanisms in the human genome. Remember LTR divergence in ERV's? I have covered it several times and you dont' respond to it.

Read post 216 from the other thread, as referenced above.

Yes. I remember it. I haven't finished reading up on it. Like I said there is evidence to support the premise that humans of some form evolved from the ape family. I don't ignore it. I simply haven't made up my mind yet.

 

[HitchSlap]

Yes. I remember it. I haven't finished reading up on it. Like I said there is evidence to support the premise that humans of some form evolved from the ape family. I don't ignore it. I simply haven't made up my mind yet.

That's the cool thing about facts, they exist independent of a mind.

 

[Loudmouth]

So did it upset you that he didn't read it?

It upsets me that people will lie and say that I haven't presented the information.

So why do you feel that it is ok to expect me to present the information for you?

Because that is how the world works. When someone makes a claim, it is up to them to present evidence to back that claim.

You are claiming that there is ID science. It is up to you to present it.

You have the link, you have the information and you should be expected to either read it or dismiss it out of hand.

I shouldn't be expected to do your job. You are the one claiming that there is ID science in that paper. It is up to YOU to present it. Simple concept.

Do you wish to dismiss it out of hand?

If you aren't even willing to put in the effort, why should I?

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes. I remember it. I haven't finished reading up on it. Like I said there is evidence to support the premise that humans of some form evolved from the ape family. I don't ignore it. I simply haven't made up my mind yet.

If you already knew about it, why claim that I haven't presented the information?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes. I remember it. I haven't finished reading up on it. Like I said there is evidence to support the premise that humans of some form evolved from the ape family. I don't ignore it. I simply haven't made up my mind yet.

Regardless as to what you choose to believe, you do realize that the reality doesn't change, right?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Regardless as to what you choose to believe, you do realize that the reality doesn't change, right?

Oh my goodness! Are you serious? I can't change reality by what I believe!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Oh my goodness! Are you serious? I can't change reality by what I believe!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people act that way... I kid you not.

 

[Oncedeceived]

If you already knew about it, why claim that I haven't presented the information?

Well I guess it depends on what we are talking about here?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Some people act that way... I kid you not.

Do I strike you as someone who thinks that reality can be changed by what I believe?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Do I strike you as someone who thinks that reality can be changed by what I believe?

No, but assuming the worst has become a force of habit for me.

 

[Oncedeceived]

That's the cool thing about facts, they exist independent of a mind.

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell me it isn't true!

 

[Oncedeceived]

No, but assuming the worst has become a force of habit for me.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's this site, I was already a pessimist to begin with, but I think I might be turning into a misanthrope.

 

[Oncedeceived]

It's this site, I was already a pessimist to begin with, but I think I might be turning into a misanthrope.

This site can do it to you. There there sweet pea, its not as bad as it seems.