Why is Christianity opposed to the theory of Evolution?

[bhsmte]

Still waiting for you to give your opinion on whether homo habilus is man or ape... Your answer will be either "man" or "ape" to be clear.

You will have a long wait.

 

[Loudmouth]

And to counter you are going to use what - claims of a neutral universe in which you had to add 96% more energy to make anything even begin to fit a semblance of reality? Instead of just correcting your false beliefs????

If you don't present evidence, there is nothing to counter.

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."--Christopher Hitchens

 

[laurie2777]

False. When you have data that supports a scientific theory you have the facts on your side. That is objective. It is not a subjective opinion.

Wow where do you people come from? According to you.. because there is data supporting the "theory" of evolution.. it has to be true. But even though there is scientific data that supports the bible .. that means nothing. Double talk?

The data that supports evolution has not been proven.. so no matter how much you claim it as fact...it's still just a theory... BECAUSE.. there is scientific data supporting a young earth AND creation also.

All the perfect beauty of mankind, animals, the earth, the sun we have to have to sustain life and a moon at night so everything is not totally black .. was not an accident. Our eyes being placed in the perfect place and not on our butts so we would have to stand to see..

God made it easy for us so we don't have to have a phd to acknowledge the truth.. Just a desire to know it.

 

[SteveB28]

I didn't see anyone answer your question really (but I didn't read all 30 pages lol)....
#1 someone who believes in evolution does not believe Gods word is true, which is a problem if you call yourself a Christian since Christian means follower of Christ, Christ is the word of God and He is always true.

Dr Francis Collins is the head of the Genome Project. He is also a devout Christian. I am sure that he would be delighted about your pronouncement of his faith.

#2 God never goes against TRUE science, evolution is not true, there has been A LOT of science to back this up which the majority of evolutionists tend to ignore or refute with more unproven claims...please note evolution is a theory not fact.

Oh my. Are there still some of you around? Dear girl, all science is "theory"! Please learn this simple concept, even if you learn nothing else from my words.

And you might care to reveal the "LOT of science" which shows that "evolution is not true"?

No? I thought not.

#3 it totally twists prophecy...if one assumes God's word is true and looks at it from that perspective prophecy unfolds very nicely without twisting anything or making wild assumptions (scripture ALWAYS backs up itself)....if one doesn't all kinds of wild theories come out which leads people astray, hence why in the last days there will be scoffers...

Please focus on the bold. These are the kinds of problems you encounter when you 'assume'.

#4 which brings me to number 4, evolutionists are generally also scoffers at God's word which also ties back into number 1

The majority of 'evolutionists' are Christians and the majority of Christians accept evolutionary theory. Where are your "scoffers" please?

#5 which leads to number 5, it makes other scripture hard to understand or taken inappropriately

Very good counting. Well done. And yes, our discoveries in science have led to a conflict with the scriptures on occasion. So let's go back and imagine that the sun really does orbit the earth!

#6 it can hinder people's relationship with their creator and each other

The truth sometimes comes with a price.

#7 it also leads to more selfishness (survival of the fittest mentality, etc) which is also a sign of the end times as it says in 2 Tim 3 ...note it is specifically talking about people who think they are Christians, not pagans, because they have a "form" of godliness but deny it's power and reject truth......
I am sure there are many more reasons but those are what came to mind at the top of my head. If you want more I suggest praying and submitting to the Holy Spirit, surrendering any preconceived beliefs and then letting Him guide you through His word and confirming it for you so that you can have a solid foundation on which to stand.

Please go away quietly and learn what the "survival of the fittest" really means.

 

[Loudmouth]

Wow where do you people come from? According to you.. because there is data supporting the "theory" of evolution.. it has to be true.

Opinions are subjective and lack data in support.

Scientific conclusions are objective and are supported by data.

They are two different things.

And yes, evolution is true as in true beyond any reasonable doubt. We have 150 years of science backing it.

But even though there is scientific data that supports the bible

Like what?

How does the Bible explain the matching phylogenies of DNA and morphology, for starters?

The data that supports evolution has not been proven..

Yes, it has. It is proven that humans and chimps have the same 200,000 endogenous retroviruses at the same position in our genomes, as one example.

so no matter how much you claim it as fact...it's still just a theory... BECAUSE.. there is scientific data supporting a young earth AND creation also.

"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."--Stephen Jay Gould, "Evolution as Fact and Theory"
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html

Before you lecture us on these topics, please learn what they mean.

All the perfect beauty of mankind, animals, the earth, the sun we have to have to sustain life and a moon at night so everything is not totally black .. was not an accident.

No one is saying that evolution is an accident.

God made it easy for us so we don't have to have a phd to acknowledge the truth.. Just a desire to know it.

Based on what evidence?

 

[justlookinla]

Still waiting for you to give your opinion on whether homo habilus is man or ape... Your answer will be either "man" or "ape" to be clear.

No, I must not answer man or ape. There's a third option, which I posted.

 

[justlookinla]

You will have a long wait.

Yeppers.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

If you don't present evidence, there is nothing to counter.

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."--Christopher Hitchens

You ignore the evidence when it is presented.

Your own science tells you energy can neither be created or destroyed - hence has always been there. Then you try to claim a neutral universe - even if everything that exists is made of energy. This causes you to add 96% Fairie Dust because you can't account for all the energetic outbursts observed in your neutral universe. But year after year you pile on more Fairie Dust - because you also ignore all those signs of non-neutrality you observe everywhere.

NASA has tried to tell you over and over and over again.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/whycassini/cassini20110420.html

And over and over and over.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/rbsp/news/electric-atmosphere.html

And over again.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/11dec_themis/

But you still ignore it.

You won't accept the energy that is there in front of your nose - and instead have to appeal to your invisible dark gods. At least I only have one God.

 

[Cearbhall]

Still waiting for you to give your opinion on whether homo habilus is man or ape... Your answer will be either "man" or "ape" to be clear.

How are you defining "man?" That's not a scientific term.

Regardless, this is a silly question, because humans are apes.

 

[justlookinla]

How are you defining "man?" That's not a scientific term.

Regardless, this is a silly question, because humans are apes.

Depends on one's subjective view.

 

[Cearbhall]

Depends on one's subjective view.

Of the first or second thing that I said?

 

[laurie2777]

"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty.

Huh?? You just said that evolution is a theory and it is also a fact...and then you said facts and theories are different things.

Now how to reply to that kind of logic?

I was taught in SCHOOL that until something was proven it is not a fact.

History has changed so why not the definition of the word ''fact''

 

[justlookinla]

Of the first or second thing that I said?

This..."humans are apes".

 

[Ada Lovelace]

Huh?? You just said that evolution is a theory and it is also a fact...and then you said facts and theories are different things.

Now how to reply to that kind of logic?

I was taught in SCHOOL that until something was proven it is not a fact.

History has changed so why not the definition of the word ''fact''

I noticed that you're in your 60s, so it's presumably been decades since you were in school. Perhaps you simply need a refresher course. I don't think you understand what a scientific theory actually is, and how it is distinctive from the colloquial use of the word.

http://ncse.com/evolution/education/theory-fact

 

[Cearbhall]

This..."humans are apes".

How is that up for debate?

Granted, ape isn't a technical term. Is that what you mean?

 

[justlookinla]

Huh?? You just said that evolution is a theory and it is also a fact...and then you said facts and theories are different things.

Now how to reply to that kind of logic?

I was taught in SCHOOL that until something was proven it is not a fact.

History has changed so why not the definition of the word ''fact''

You'll find that folks go into 'scientific doublespeak' when faced with issues they wish to avoid. The favorite is the 'theory' doublespeak.

 

[Cearbhall]

Huh?? You just said that evolution is a theory and it is also a fact...and then you said facts and theories are different things.

Now how to reply to that kind of logic?

I was taught in SCHOOL that until something was proven it is not a fact.

If it's a theory, it's been more than proven. It's been proven time and time and time again. Do you understand what "theory" means?

You'll find that folks go into 'scientific doublespeak' when faced with issues they wish to avoid. The favorite is the 'theory' doublespeak.

Why would we want to avoid middle school science?

 

[justlookinla]

Why would we want to avoid middle school science?

Simply speak in common everyday language. Not 'your theory is different from my theory' doublespeak.

Theories are guesses and suppositions, might be's, possibly's, etc. Darwinist evolution is chock full of that type of language.

 

[mickiio]

Huh?? You just said that evolution is a theory and it is also a fact...and then you said facts and theories are different things.

Now how to reply to that kind of logic?

I was taught in SCHOOL that until something was proven it is not a fact.

History has changed so why not the definition of the word ''fact''

Oh yeah, the schools have heard the lie long enough to call it a fact. Apparently hoping for a generation who can't think for themselves. No wonder homeschooling has become so popular.

Evolutionists like to piggy back macroevolution (barely supported theory) with microevolution (provable, verifiable, falsifiable fact) and call them the same thing. "Just add more time", they say *facepalm*

 

[Cearbhall]

Simply speak in common everyday language.

Why? It wouldn't be a meaningful conversation if we failed to use the proper terminology. I wouldn't call a third-degree burn a "big ouchy" if I called 911. These words exist for a reason. Let's not dumb it down.

If some people need to go do a Google search to understand, there's no shame in that. I've had to do it before on this website. Stanfordella was even nice enough to provide a link.

Theories are guesses and suppositions, might be's, possibly's, etc.

No. You are in the Physical & Life Sciences board. It's counterproductive to misuse terms. I suppose "evolution" is the way that Apple updates its iPhone models...