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Why is Christianity opposed to the theory of Evolution?

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Meowzltov

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By 'reasoning with me', you mean attempting to sway me to embracing a Godless evolutionary view which produced humanity from an alleged single life form (unknown) of long ago.

Sorry, that's not a Christian viewpoint.
Actually it doesn't bother me that you are a Creationist. People can disagree with me and I'm fine with it. I actually LIKE IT when people disagree with me becaue it makes me think. After all I might be wrong, and how will I ever correct myself if I don't talk with others who disagree?

What bothers me is your irrational thinking. The arguments you are making, your points about the Berkley statement, for example, and your statements that evolution is atheistic, are illogical.
 
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Actually it doesn't bother me that you are a Creationist. People can disagree with me and I'm fine with it. I actually LIKE IT when people disagree with me becaue it makes me think. After all I might be wrong, and how will I ever correct myself if I don't talk with others who disagree?

What bothers me is your irrational thinking. The arguments you are making, your points about the Berkley statement, for example, and your statements that evolution is atheistic, are illogical.
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I know that you are here responding to someone else's post, but does Post #959 have reasoning which you can accept?
 
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What you said was that it is "the variety we see in nature" that means the world is "such a pleasant home in which we live". Are you retracting that statement?
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No, I am not.

The world was perfect.
Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

It is far from perfect now, but it is still a pleasant home in which we live.

If you don't believe this to be true, go and live on Mars. It has sunlight and water. Scientists see no reason why life of some form should not be thriving there. I would rather choose to live on this earth. Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.
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I know that you are here responding to someone else's post, but does Post #959 have reasoning which you can accept?
I wholeheartedly believe those verses. I think the interpretation that they mean perfect and imperfect is a big stretch, but it doesn't bother me that you believe that.
 
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And you have still not yet posted a quote with a citation from any atheist who claims that if God had created DNA then every person would be identical.
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You're an Atheist. I will ask you.

Do you believe that variety in nature comes about because of the function of DNA?
SUGGESTED ANSWER: Yes

Do you believe that God used DNA?
SUGGESTED ANSWER: No

If God didn't use DNA, then how would he create various features such as different eye, skin and hair colour?
SUGGESTED ANSWER: He couldn't. There would be no such variations.

Please correct me. Tell me where you believe differently.
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To balance out the chain of interdependent life that exists on this planet - when we don't make them extinct. They are there to eat flying insects and to hunt prey. They started with flight to begin with. From the oldest bird you can find - they flew. There are no flightless examples or missing links to flightless examples - as there were no swimming to walking examples with Coelacanth. That too was one of those wrong classifications built upon Fairie Dust in reality showing how things don't evolve outside of their infraspecific taxa - like those billion year old bacteria.
Coelecanths don't walk. Tiktalik, on the other hand...
 
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I wholeheartedly believe those verses. I think the interpretation that they mean perfect and imperfect is a big stretch, but it doesn't bother me that you believe that.
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It will be made perfect in the future.
Revelation 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!”

Do the contexts of these verses have any relevance to you?

The verse immediately before Revelation 21:5 is obviously verse 4.

Revelation 21:4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

In verse 5, God states that he is making everything new.

In verse 4, it is stated --
God will wipe away every tear from our eyes.
TRUE OR FALSE

There will be no more death.
TRUE OR FALSE

There will be no mourning or crying or pain.
TRUE OR FALSE

The old order of things will have passed away.
TRUE OR FALSE

Do you wholeheartedly accept these statements as true, or do you modify them to suit your worldview?
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Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

The whole spectrum of the variety we see in nature is what makes this world such a pleasant home in which we live. This variety includes the many varieties of birds, and other creatures. Included are the beauty of sunsets, mountains, views of lakes, etc.

Many evolutionists suggest that if God actually made mankind, each one of us would be identical in every respect. There would be no differences regarding hair, skin, and eye colour. With God as creator, we shouldn't need the variety of birds, sunsets, mountains, and lakes. Only evolution would conceive of such a world.
Still not seeing anything about a bird's "purpose"?
 
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Still not seeing anything about a bird's "purpose"?
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Tell me about what you see is the purpose of your own personal existence, then I will tell you regarding the purpose of birds existing.

But if you don't see any purpose in your own existence, then you will hardly be persuaded that birds have any purpose.

Why should birds have purpose when you don't?.
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Tell me about what you see is the purpose of your own personal existence, then I will tell you regarding the purpose of birds existing.

But if you don't see any purpose in your own existence, then you will hardly be persuaded that birds have any purpose.

Why should birds have purpose when you don't?.
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You claimed they have purpose. Burden is on you to support your claim. But since we've descended into a Gish-esq discussion over why you feel you shouldn't have to provide a direct answer to a direct question, I'll take that as a tacit admission you can't support the claim, and know it.
 
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It will be made perfect in the future.
Revelation 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!”
I personally believe that the New Heaven and New Earth will be perfect. Nevertheless, this verse does not say that, and we need to be careful not to make verses say what we want rather than what they are actually saying. New does not mean perfect.
 
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You claimed they have purpose. Burden is on you to support your claim. But since we've descended into a Gish-esq discussion over why you feel you shouldn't have to provide a direct answer to a direct question, I'll take that as a tacit admission you can't support the claim, and know it.
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Here is my response regarding purpose.

Purpose

The first passage from Isaiah relates to the whole of creation, birds included. The earth was created to be inhabited, that is why it is not barren like Mars.
Isaiah 45:18 He who fashioned and made the earth, he did not create it to be empty, but he formed it to be inhabited.

The verse in Ephesians relates to the higher purpose which you and I have.
Ephesians 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The verse in Colossians tells us that the purpose of all creation is for God.
Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, all things have been created through him and for him.

You may not find these answers acceptable in that they are all drawn from Scripture. This is understandable because outside of God's Word, there is no suggestion of purpose.

No purpose

There is a 'purposeless purpose' associated with biological evolution. It is simply this. "The optimum outcome is that the organism can breed and continue to survive."

Of those who recognize evolution as factual, the vast majority accept that the Theory of Evolution implies that no guidance whatsoever is given to the process. It has no actual purpose. Evolution has no end goal. It is understood to proceed slowly, functioning solely through random chance.

Whether it is a man, a bird, a mouse, or a microbe — all are equal in respect to evolution. The optimum outcome is that the organism can breed and continue to survive.

http://lifefromgod.com/discussion/
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Yes, Yes, and Yes.

It's like a writer finally finishing the book and then starting a new book.
But a writer wouldn't destroy the old book, would he?

Especially after he pronounced the first chapter, "very good"?
 
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You should not be imprisoned for tax fraud. For sure NOT for 10 years!
Christians must unite and stand up against corruption to reclaim America… and our first fight is to #FreeKent

How about for promoting the ILLEGAL interstate sales of Amygdalin?
http://creationtoday.org/product/b17-package-2/

"The lack of laetrile's effectiveness and the risk of side effects from cyanide poisoning led the Food and Drugs Agency (FDA) in the US and the European Commission to ban its use"
http://www.cochrane.org/CD005476/GYNAECA_laetrile-treatment-for-cancer

"Amygdalin,is a poisonous cyanogenic glycoside found in many plants, but most notably in the seeds (kernels) of apricot, peach, bitter almond, and plum"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdalin

The man is an evil, evil person.
 
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I personally believe that the New Heaven and New Earth will be perfect. Nevertheless, this verse does not say that, and we need to be careful not to make verses say what we want rather than what they are actually saying. New does not mean perfect.
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Does the fact that 'There will be no more death,' indicate to you any sort of perfection? (Revelation 21:4)

Or do you believe that 'death' is a natural part of the process of evolution, and therefore 'death' will continue with life forever?
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Does the fact that 'There will be no more death,' indicate to you any sort of perfection? (Revelation 21:4)

Or do you believe that 'death' is a natural part of the process of evolution, and therefore 'death' will continue with life forever?
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You can ARGUE that "no more death" means perfection, OR you can argue that it does not. It's not automatic.

There is no reason to assume that the New Earth would have evolution, since it has no birth or death.
 
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You can ARGUE that "no more death" means perfection, OR you can argue that it does not. It's not automatic.

There is no reason to assume that the New Earth would have evolution, since it has no birth or death.
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Could you honestly argue the case that "no more death" doesn't mean perfection?
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I don't claim that the world is perfect now. I fact, the exact opposite is true.

The world was perfect.
Genesis 1:31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

It is not perfect now.
Genesis 3:17, 18 Cursed is the ground because of you, it will produce thorns and thistles.
(A corruption of genetics has played a part in this decay.)

It will be made perfect in the future.
Revelation 21:5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!”
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Perfection is perfection. Very good is not the same as perfect. New is not the same as perfect.

Can you provide anything extra biblical to indicate that a "corruption of genetics" has occurred in human history?

Bonus points if you can tell me what such 'corruption' would entail.
 
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