Why is Christianity opposed to the theory of Evolution?

[bhsmte]

Seriously?? You truly believe that all mans accomplishments and advancements is proof of evolution?

That just proves what I said earlier .. ''that anyone can say anything and claim it as a fact''.. And my friend..that does not make it so..

Not what I said. Read my post again.

All theories stand on their own merits and the theory of evolution, is one of the most evidenced in science.

This is reality. I know it hurts to hear it though.

 

[justlookinla]

All theories stand on their own merits and the theory of evolution, is one of the most evidenced in science.

Nope, it isn't. Simply because you claim this is meaningless until you provide the evidence, based on the scientific method. Of course we're speaking of Darwinist evolution.

 

[laurie2777]

Not what I said. Read my post again.

All theories stand on their own merits and the theory of evolution, is one of the most evidenced in science.

This is reality. I know it hurts to hear it though.

As long as you continue to claim unproven theories as factual.. For me, there is no pleasure in this discussion. I have to assume you will not go on to anything else because it's all you have.

 

[bhsmte]

As long as you continue to claim unproven theories as factual.. For me, there is no pleasure in this discussion. I have to assume you will not go on to anything else because it's all you have.

Yea, that is all we have, a theory with boatloads of evidence to support it. Just like the things I listed, that you rely on everyday of your life, that were developed from other well evidenced scientific theories.

I know, you can't accept that, because your personal faith belief, must be protected.

 

[justlookinla]

Yea, that is all we have, a theory with boatloads of evidence to support it. Just like the things I listed, that you rely on everyday of your life, that were developed from other well evidenced scientific theories.

I know, you can't accept that, because your personal faith belief, must be protected.

One's faith-based view of atheistic Darwinist evolution is strong my friends.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Many scientists have erroneous views about things outside their fields of expertise. There's no reason to suppose that a physicist knows more about evolution than the average guy on the street.

Your assertion was about the fact that some evolutionary scientists hold to "the random theorys". This is why I'm asking you to cite a published scientific paper about evolutionary biology which uses or references in a positive way "the random theorys".

As I said: "The process of mutation, which generates genetic variation, is random, but selection is non-random. "

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php

 

[bhsmte]

As I said: "The process of mutation, which generates genetic variation, is random, but selection is non-random. "

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php

What in the world does your statement have to do with what he said. Did you actually read what he said?

 

[Meowzltov]

when non-believers in God decided that replacing the creation story with evolution was a good logical defense for their own lack of belief, then things got a tad shaky.

They didn't propose evolution because it supported atheism (it doesn't, you can be a theistic evolutionist), they proposed it because it was what the facts indicated.

 

[justlookinla]

They didn't propose evolution because it supported atheism (it doesn't, you can be a theistic evolutionist), they proposed it because it was what the facts indicated.

What facts?

 

[laurie2777]

Yea, that is all we have, a theory with boatloads of evidence to support it. Just like the things I listed, that you rely on everyday of your life, that were developed from other well evidenced scientific theories.

I know, you can't accept that, because your personal faith belief, must be protected.

Yet again..you're making a claim of knowledge you don't have... You have no idea why I believe what I do and I resent you using it as an argument.. That is an assumption based on how you perceive Christians ("assumptions" are not facts).. Evidently, in your mind, just because you believe something, regardless of why you believe it, it has to be a fact.

 

[eclipsenow]

God's word is believed by faith. Science is based on man's reason and knowledge and seeks only empirical proofs that something is true. Jesus told Thomas "Blessed are they who don't see and yet believe." We reject evolution because it takes God, the creator of all things, out of the equation and rests creation on random chance.

No we don't. We accept the bible as the word of God, and this universe and everything in it that can be known through science as the works of God, including evolution. And there is no conflict at all, not an ounce. There are questions, but they are easily answered.

 

[Job8]

This is reality. I know it hurts to hear it though.

Just like "reality TV"? Staged to entertain but without any substance? The "reality" of evolution is that we all are waiting with baited breath to see those cultured chimpanzees walking out of the jungle to have a cappucchino.

 

[bhsmte]

Yet again..you're making a claim of knowledge you don't have... You have no idea why I believe what I do and I resent you using it as an argument.. That is an assumption based on how you perceive Christians ("assumptions" are not facts).. Evidently, in your mind, just because you believe something, regardless of why you believe it, it has to be a fact.

Nothing to do with how I perceive Christians, because the majority of Christians agree with the theory of evolution, so that argument fails right out of the gate.

It does have something to do, when someone denies well evidenced science and clearly shows, they have little to no knowledge of the same.

 

[bhsmte]

Just like "reality TV"? Staged to entertain but without any substance? The "reality" of evolution is that we all are waiting with baited breath to see those cultured chimpanzees walking out of the jungle to have a cappucchino.

If that is what you are waiting for, you clearly do not understand the theory.

I do understand, your need to deny it though.

 

[TheMadnessInMe]

Who created God so he could make it bang?

Again, the atheist here must isolate God and throw Him into the realm of causation just like their own flawed arguments. This is a perfect example of the limited worldview that the atheist takes in order to understand God. No Christian that I know has ever claimed to understand God and His infinite knowledge and power. We simply have faith. On the other hand an atheist must, for their own satisfaction, try to understand God based on the known knowledge of science - eg. the causation clause. But it was Jesus Himself that said He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. God exists. Always have and always will exist. He is timeless. This is again, inconceivable to the non-believer and yet you only need faith to believe in it.

The atheist will always say that the burden of proof is on us Christians to prove the existence of God. The apostle Paul had a great counter to this when he said, "For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things." Romans 1:19-23.

The only difference is today, science is the new god for atheists. Hiding behind the "facts of evolution" and empirical evidence, they overlook how it is that Natural Law exists or how fossils show extinction and not evolution. Atheists overlook the awesomeness of our exact location in our solar system; how if we were just one planet over to the sun, we would burn up or if we were one planet farther, we would freeze to death. What about the composition of our atmosphere? How is it our oxygen levels are perfect for sustaining life? If our oxygen was just a few parts less O2, we would suffocate...or if there was more than 21% 02, we would combust. How do scientists explain the anthropic principle?

Again, the atheist would love to separate evolution from the origins of the universe. Why is that? Why must there be a separation? Could it be to fulfill their very narrow-minded and frankly, dogmatic view of life in the universe?

 

[joshua 1 9]

I hate to scare those who deny evolution, but if you have ever sought or needed medical care, there is a real good chance you were treated with methods that rely on what has been learned from evolutionary science.

I guess a creationist could seek out physicians who also deny evolution, but good luck with that.

"Christians have been leaders in medicine and the building of hospitals because their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, healed the sick during his ministry on earth (see Matt. 9; 10:8; 25: 34-26). The early church not only endorsed medicine, but championed care for the sick." http://biblemesh.com/blog/the-christian-origins-of-hospitals/

 

[justlookinla]

Nothing to do with how I perceive Christians, because the majority of Christians agree with the theory of evolution, so that argument fails right out of the gate.

A blatantly misleading statement made frequently here on the forum. The majority of Christians do not agree with the particular evolutionary view of atheistic Darwinist evolution. In fact, I know of no Christian who embraces the 'only naturalistic mechanisms did it' view.

 

[laurie2777]

Nothing to do with how I perceive Christians, because the majority of Christians agree with the theory of evolution, so that argument fails right out of the gate.

It does have something to do, when someone denies well evidenced science and clearly shows, they have little to no knowledge of the same.

I don't know if that's true... that most Christians agree with the theory of evolution.. but.. if they don't yet....they soon will. I know that.

But even though...it does not make it a fact. It's still just a theory.

 

[bhsmte]

"Christians have been leaders in medicine and the building of hospitals because their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, healed the sick during his ministry on earth (see Matt. 9; 10:8; 25: 34-26). The early church not only endorsed medicine, but championed care for the sick." http://biblemesh.com/blog/the-christian-origins-of-hospitals/

Nothing at all to do with the point I made.

Of course, I am getting used to it.

 

[justlookinla]

"Christians have been leaders in medicine and the building of hospitals because their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, healed the sick during his ministry on earth (see Matt. 9; 10:8; 25: 34-26). The early church not only endorsed medicine, but championed care for the sick." http://biblemesh.com/blog/the-christian-origins-of-hospitals/

True. I've been the reciepient of such healings more than once.

As far as the respondent's claim that "you were treated with methods that rely on what has been learned from evolutionary science", we find that this is a misleading statement. No medical advances were produced by following the method proposed by Darwinist evolution of a random, mindless, meaningless , purposeless and goalless mechanisms. Imagine scientists using such a process to develop drugs. Not going to happen.