Why is "Big Bang' so important to Creationists?

[Tomk80]

Zone, start writing normal sentences. After that I might be interested in reading your stuff. Currently it's just mumbo jumbo.

 

[Chalnoth]

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I think I'll allow others to judge whether or not I am lying when I state that I currently have a Ph.D. in physics, earned through research in the field of cosmology, and am currently employed at my first postdoctoral research position. By any reasonable definition, that makes me a practicing physicist.

So what about you, hmm? Who claim to be a physicist, chemist, and who knows what else? But still can't piece together a simple equation that makes any sense?

 

[Zone]

I think I'll allow others to judge whether or not I am lying when I state that I currently have a Ph.D. in physics, earned through research in the field of cosmology, and am currently employed at my first postdoctoral research position. By any reasonable definition, that makes me a practicing physicist.

So what about you, hmm? Who claim to be a physicist, chemist, and who knows what else? But still can't piece together a simple equation that makes any sense?

So I see you're still deriving great pleasure in lying to everyone who do not realize that you're lying to them.

Look due to your blatant lake of truthfulness you're really starting to epitomize hypocrisy, will you just drop the act (absolutely no genuine physicist would allow the imbecilic, nonsensical, etc statements to come-out of his mouth as you have & continue to do), wherefore we both know 100% that any Ph.D that you have came-out of a cereal box.

But, OK Mr. physicist (I will play along with your delusions, therefore), I am still waiting for you to answer my "Einstein's theory of relativity" question.

I will say to you exactly what you & your entourage have repeatedly said to me...... "put-up, or shut-up, I've complied.... so tell me Mr. physicist exactly when will you start reciprocating?

 

[paug]

... even he realized that all things are relative & that his 6.71 × 10[sup]8[/sup] (i.e., light) velocity was not constant, this is why he incorporated the term "relative" into his theories (the general theory of "relativity", special "relativity", etc) to ensure that when his error(s) are discovered his theories will not end-up within the disproved category &, or files & his name will not become synonymous with error(s), such as the flat Earth theory, the steady state theory, etc.

Wow. I'm wondering where I got the crazy notion that "relative", in this case, meant that the situation's parameters change according to your frame of reference. How can you (physicist, chemist, geneticist) be so misinformed?

 

[Zone]

Wow. I'm wondering where I got the crazy notion that "relative", in this case, meant that the situation's parameters change according to your frame of reference. How can you (physicist, chemist, geneticist) be so misinformed?

Splendid, another non-physicist, that continuously speak without the necessity of understanding, or knowledge, without any macroscopic &, or microscopic piece(s) of proof, evidence, etc.... to substantiate / validate anything that you say......

What is there a convention somewhere?

 

[paug]

Splendid, another non-physicist, that continuously speak without the necessity of understanding, or knowledge, without any macroscopic &, or microscopic piece(s) of proof, evidence, etc.... to substantiate / validate anything that you say......

What is there a convention somewhere?

And another thorough evisceration of the English language.

/thread imho.

 

[Zone]

And another thorough evisceration of the English language.

/thread imho.

Unless you too are looking forward in taking me on a totally unnecessary galactic trip...... hum, put-up, or shut-up.

 

[Chalnoth]

I will say to you exactly what you & your entourage have repeatedly said to me...... "put-up, or shut-up, I've complied.... so tell me Mr. physicist exactly when will you start reciprocating?

Well, no, you haven't. You've just put up more rambling nonsense that has no relation whatsoever to your points.

Furthermore, I'm not sure where you posted that stuff on relativity from, but it's not on Wikipedia as near as I can tell.

Finally, though I don't remember saying at all, "Put up or shut up," I know I haven't said it recently, as I've lost patience with you. I'd rather not wrack my brains to figure out what you're trying to say in your posts.

If anybody else has questions about anything that you've tried to put forward, I will gladly answer them. But I see no reason to indulge you any longer, Zone.

 

[Zone]

Well, no, you haven't. You've just put up more rambling nonsense that has no relation whatsoever to your points.

Furthermore, I'm not sure where you posted that stuff on relativity from, but it's not on Wikipedia as near as I can tell.

Finally, though I don't remember saying at all, "Put up or shut up," I know I haven't said it recently, as I've lost patience with you. I'd rather not wrack my brains to figure out what you're trying to say in your posts.

If anybody else has questions about anything that you've tried to put forward, I will gladly answer them. But I see no reason to indulge you any longer, Zone.

LOL​

I knew it..... even though I DO NOT need anybodies help in proving that your a fraudster, nonetheless, thanks for validating me.

 

[Chalnoth]

LOL​

I knew it..... even though I DO NOT need anybodies help in proving that your a fraudster, nonetheless, thanks for validating me.

As much as I feel I'm going to regret this....how, precisely?

 

[Zone]

As much as I feel I'm going to regret this....how, precisely?

You're tragically very sad.

Hey Mr. Ph.D. physicist you're doing plenty of procrastinating & zero substantiating.

I will say to you exactly what you & your entourage have repeatedly said to me...... "put-up, or shut-up, I've complied.... so tell me Mr. physicist exactly when will you start reciprocating?

 

[Paulos23]

I would say that Chalnoth has done enough and that you need to start substantiating your arguements. It is very clear who knows what between the two of you.

 

[Hespera]

Sorry, Zone, I no longer have the patience to indulge your absurd notions of what constitutes physics.

Zone wise, I quit reading his stuff.

 

[Zone]

Zone wise, I quit reading his stuff.

Even though the physicists &, or physics students are very, very mean, hateful, etc at the Physforum one thing that I can say about them is they do not shy away from intellectual debates / challenges (i.e., until you defeat them using their own secular knowledge).

 

[Tomk80]

whine whine whine

Meanwhile, I've noticed a particular pattern that others might have noticed too. I've noted that there are different kinds of advocates of woo out there, with different styles, and the style seems to derive from the kind of woo they are trying to spread. You have your average creationist, for example, who portrays his ignorance of evolution not only in his arguments, but also in bad grammar and spelling. Then you have people like Zone, who try to take on topics that are more complicated, like relativity. They seem to go the other way by using excessive verbiage. "Word-salad" seems to be the operative word here. Of course, excessive use of readability decreasing fonts seems to be a requirement for both types of posters.

Anyone else notice this pattern?

 

[Zone]

Please, can someone & I mean anyone tell me, what is so special, exciting, exhilarating, etc about lying to everybody?

Perhaps it's simply a case of me being a Christian for far too long, to really fully comprehend the great alleged reward(s) for lying to friends, family members, strangers, etc.

 

[Zone]

Meanwhile, I've noticed a particular pattern that others might have noticed too. I've noted that there are different kinds of advocates of woo out there, with different styles, and the style seems to derive from the kind of woo they are trying to spread. You have your average creationist, for example, who portrays his ignorance of evolution not only in his arguments, but also in bad grammar and spelling. Then you have people like Zone, who try to take on topics that are more complicated, like relativity. They seem to go the other way by using excessive verbiage. "Word-salad" seems to be the operative word here. Of course, excessive use of readability decreasing fonts seems to be a requirement for both types of posters.

Anyone else notice this pattern?

Splendid, your nonsensical post sound just like a challenge, therefore, I want you to scientifically &, or mathematically 100% validate Darwinism, evolution, etc.

Now, if you can not, then your entire post merit(s) being immediately placed within the nonsensical category &, or files.

 

[Hespera]

Meanwhile, I've noticed a particular pattern that others might have noticed too. I've noted that there are different kinds of advocates of woo out there, with different styles, and the style seems to derive from the kind of woo they are trying to spread. You have your average creationist, for example, who portrays his ignorance of evolution not only in his arguments, but also in bad grammar and spelling. Then you have people like Zone, who try to take on topics that are more complicated, like relativity. They seem to go the other way by using excessive verbiage. "Word-salad" seems to be the operative word here. Of course, excessive use of readability decreasing fonts seems to be a requirement for both types of posters.

Anyone else notice this pattern?

The basic pattern is, the less someone has to actually say, the more hyped
the presentation. Zone claims to be able to beat most anyone in a debate, and I suppose that is true, in the sense that a wild haired crazy on the street can defeat anyone foolish enough to attempt an exchange of rational words with them.

I think of the "word salad" in this case as having been partly digested, moved along, and then projectile-emitted. Oddly enough, nobody wants to stick around and try to "win" that kind of exchange.

Oh and zone, i see you responded to my post but dont bother, I didnt read it and wont read any more of your nonsense.

 

[Zone]

The basic pattern is, the less someone has to actually say, the more hyped
the presentation. Zone claims to be able to beat most anyone in a debate, and I suppose that is true, in the sense that a wild haired crazy on the street can defeat anyone foolish enough to attempt an exchange of rational words with them.

I think of the "word salad" in this case as having been partly digested, moved along, and then projectile-emitted. Oddly enough, nobody wants to stick around and try to "win" that kind of exchange.

Oh and zone, i see you responded to my post but dont bother, I didnt read it and wont read any more of your nonsense.

You sound just as hateful, bitter, means, etc as the physicists & physic students within the PhyorgForum, just you lack their knowledge, WTG.

 

[Paulos23]

Out of all of the scientists, physicists, etc I have to say that Einstein was a very wise individual, because during his particular space &#916; time upon Earth, even he realized that all things are relative & that his 6.71 × 10[sup]8[/sup] (i.e., light) velocity was not constant, this is why he incorporated the term "relative" into his theories (the general theory of "relativity", special "relativity", etc) to ensure that when his error(s) are discovered his theories will not end-up within the disproved category &, or files & his name will not become synonymous with error(s), such as the flat Earth theory, the steady state theory, etc.

Did you not read that artical you linked to? The speed of light is a constant, it is the passage of time that is relative to the speed of an object to the speed of light.

To quote the artical:

In relativistic contexts, however, time cannot be separated from the three dimensions of space, because the rate at which time passes depends on an object's velocity relative to the speed of light and also the strength of intense gravitational fields which can slow the passage of time.

You really don't have a clue about what your talking about.