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What if subjective experience itself is a proof of a Creator?

Why do we have private lives and why do we call certain parts "private"?

We have "private parts" in order to find a mate and reproduce, thus perpetuating life on earth.

But fallen man has twisted everything to say, "My private parts are my own, as are my own 'secret' thoughts and ways."

How does mankind say "There is no god." or "I don't believe in god." all the while thinking (or not) that there is only their own precious inner lives, wherein they can do whatever they please?

I believe that these so called private realms serve to prove our creaturehood, otherwise, why isn't everything just simply laid bare if there is no Creator?
 

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Acknowledging the existence of private aspects of our consciousness, etc, is not the same as 1) considering that somehow reflects on the "image of a creator" and 2) also doesn't follow to solipsism
 
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Acknowledging the existence of private aspects of our consciousness, etc, is not the same as 1) considering that somehow reflects on the "image of a creator" and 2) also doesn't follow to solipsism

Where in a mindless, purposeless--mere time and chance existence can we account for the ability to observe in a scientific way?

The reason we can speak of free will is because of our ability to consider subject/object relations.

Why didn't things evolve laid completely bare...why do we have to search these things out?
 
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You can not escape
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He will refine
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Where in a mindless, purposeless--mere time and chance existence can we account for the ability to observe in a scientific way?

The reason we can speak of free will is because of our ability to consider subject/object relations.

Why didn't things evolve laid completely bare...why do we have to search these things out?

Chance is not what science deals in when it comes to that which we investigate. Stochastic systems are what is occurring, chance is that which is unpredictable, not that which is impossible

And the universe not having a mind itself doesn't mean there are not minds in the universe: ours.

You assume there's a mind behind nature that's somehow hiding it rather than human ignorance assuming we knew how things worked and some people being able to actually demonstrate by science that it wasn't that way. Medical science comes immediately to mind: we used leeches and such, but then people started realizing the germ theory was actually the best predictive model in terms of finding ways to combat disease that weren't rooted in pseudoscience and superstition (demon possession for instance was commonly thought of being behind mental illnesses we know have more natural factors involved)

Evolution is not a directed process, it varies in terms of how any given species will survive in any given context, this isn't as complex as you're trying to make it to fit into a notion of a universe with an external purpose placed upon it versus one where we determine purpose as individuals (which doesn't mean anything goes either, there are constraints by prudence)
 
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How does mankind say "There is no god." or "I don't believe in god." all the while thinking (or not) that there is only their own precious inner lives, wherein they can do whatever they please?
What makes you think that an atheist viewpoint would automatically be associated with an amoral, narcissistic viewpoint. There is ample evidence to demonstrate this is not necessarily the case.

why isn't everything just simply laid bare if there is no Creator?
Again, I don't see the logical connection. Why would you expect the absence of a Creator to lead to everything "being laid bare".
 
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