Why I'm Orthodox . . . and why others may want to be too.

[Iollain]

Come on over to my church, we bring God down........really. We have a Christmas cake that God, because of our pastor, of course, come down from heaven in........give me a break

 

[Iollain]

Oh yeah and we have a choir of old men who never have cracked their face with a smile who sing in B minor, we are very very holy.

 

[CaDan]

Oh yeah and we have a choir of old men who never have cracked their face with a smile who sing in B minor, we are very very holy.

There are some very nice songs in B minor. Don't knock it!

 

[CaDan]

at this time of year - we should show love - but then again this is no fellowship thread -- ne and CaDan like to add funny stuff -- ummm still want to know about the egg

oh Cadan - read your article on CF Newsletter -

Charity is always good theology. Faith, hope, and charity--these three remain--but the greatest is charity.

 

[GraceInHim]

Charity is always good theology. Faith, hope, and charity--these three remain--but the greatest is charity.

 

[joyfulthanks]

Charity is always good theology. Faith, hope, and charity--these three remain--but the greatest is charity.

Amen.

You know, I listen to all the arguments about who is historically in the right, and I read the early church fathers to learn what I can from the source material. But in the end, it's not the arguments that impress me - it's the Christlikeness (or lack thereof) displayed by posters that makes the biggest impression on me.

Charity is not only always good theology - it's also good apologetics.

Blessed Advent!

With love in Christ,
Grace

 

[CaDan]

Aahh . . . The Grace Sisters have arrived!

You two coordinate these things, don't you?

 

[joyfulthanks]

Aahh . . . The Grace Sisters have arrived!

You two coordinate these things, don't you?

Sometimes it seems like it, huh?

 

[GraceInHim]

Aahh . . . The Grace Sisters have arrived!

You two coordinate these things, don't you?

yes we keep the cease fire thread going - but of course some have gone in and place smirk remarks - but we stay at grace with our Lord -

hello my other Gracie

 

[CaDan]

The Grace Sisters need to pick up a third so we can have the full complement of:

Aglaia ~ Radiant
Euphrosyne ~ Joyful
Thalia ~ Flowering

 

[joyfulthanks]

If I'm not mistaken, that's a compliment. Thanks CaDan.

Blessed Advent!

With love in Christ,
Grace

 

[vanshan]

Charity is always good theology. Faith, hope, and charity--these three remain--but the greatest is charity.

Ubi caritas et amore, ubi caritas Deus ibi est.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Do please calm yourself, Therese. What he stated, that you are getting indignant about, is the exact same thing you believe about our Church and our faith.

No its not. . . we don't go starting threads accusing the Eastern Orthodox of being heretics or condemning them as was here:

Quoted from Vanshan

but I must condemn any who falsely lay claim to being established by Christ, like the modern Roman Catholic Church, .
Rome also teachings the 1000 year after Christ teaching of substitutionary atonement which is heterdox, and very damaging.

your church cannot be the Church Christ established.


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Heterdox is simply a fancy way of sayin heretical . . .



We do not look at the Orthodox Church as heretical, or that you are not part of the Church . . . . Or that you better become Catholic "before its too late" . . .


This is nonsense InnerPhyre .. . why are you defending such actions and with such an argument that the Catholic Church views the Orthodox in this way?


I am deeply offended that one of our Orthodox brethern would come to GT and make such a post in favor of his own faith which need to also slam ours . . .


ESPECIALLY at Advent .. .. . I am really sorry to see you defending such an act.

It is fundamental to the Orthodox faith, when looking at the schism, to understand that Rome split from the East, just as it is fundamental to the Catholic faith, when looking at the schism, to understand that the East split from Rome.

No . . it is not that simple . .it was never that simple . . .and it was not one leaving the other, it was the result of two mutual PERSONAL excommunications of the two individuals representing each side, and the one on the Catholic side was not the pope, but his representataive . . .

It was a mutual separation by two hot heads . . The Churches themselves did not see themselves as really separated. .

The Catholic Church does not see the separation the same way the Orthodox apparently do . . .

Either Rome invented the Dogma of infallibility or the East invented equality of bishops.

Come on now . . both are true . . .

It's not an either/or . . . it is a both/and

That the Orthodox saw the Pope as having a final authoirty is seen in the practice of the Church, otherwise, why did the Patriarch of Constantinople St Ignatius appeal specifically to the Pope when he was unlawfully deposed and young Photius put in his place?

One side has one perspective. One side has the other. Its really nothing to get bent out of shape about.

I am very displeased that my orthodox brethren, especially at Advent, would make usch nagative statements against us in the fitst place, then to go on and on without ever providing anything objective to back it up just puts icing on the cake . . .

Can we both stop spitting in each other's faces during this season of advent when we should be focusing on repentance? Please?

That's EXACTLY what I am saying InnerPhyre . . . . but the Catholics didn't start this thread or the spitting here . . it started with the OP . . .so please do something to help our orthodox brethern to realize this is very uncharitable . . .



Peace to all . . .

 

[CaDan]

The Grace Sisters need to pick up a third so we can have the full complement of:

Aglaia ~ Radiant
Euphrosyne ~ Joyful
Thalia ~ Flowering

Check it out!

I've been adopted!

Ice cream for everybody!

 

[Iollain]

I have some news for both of ya's: your both not the true Church!

 

[Iollain]

Check it out!

I've been adopted!

Ice cream for everybody!

I like your hat CaDan.

 

[thereselittleflower]

There is no question that patriarchs sin. The truth is that a patriarch is not intended to be elevated above the lay people. Or better - the lay people are to be just as holy as the patriarchs.
Patriarchs are fallible. They are broken humans on the path to salvation just as any of us are. While some people might hold a place of honor - we are all equals.

So, do you or do you not have an infallible Magesteirum?



Peace to all

 

[GraceInHim]

Check it out!

I've been adopted!

Ice cream for everybody!

oh yes you have

 

[CaDan]

I have some news for both of ya's: your both not the true Church!

Ecclesiology is a subtle and difficult subject. The question is not as simple as "who is the 'true Church'".

 

[thereselittleflower]

Oh, no I've never been surpized by the sin of anyone, although I'm the chief of sinners. No man can act as sole vicar of Christ on earth, because men are all fallible.

Now, if you think that in order to be the vicar of Christ one has to be personally infallible, then you are simply demonstrating your very poor grasp of Catholicism.

That's another good reason why the Orthodox don't have a pope--the existence of a single man as head, aside from Christ invites corruption and error, but as a Roman Catholic I guess I don't need to tell you that.

Basil

Basil . . just more anti-Cathlic rhetoric and propaganda . . . .

Absolutely NO OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE AT ALL!


Very sad Basil . . . . Very, very sad . . . . .



Peace to all