Why I Don't Like Homosexuals

[*Starlight*]

You homosexuals scare me.

Homosexuals don't scare me, but people who like to judge a whole group of people who only have their sexual orientation in common just because of some crazy people they've met DO scare me, because such a way of thinking is dangerous. And also totally illogical... do you think it would be logical for me to say that "Christianity is an objective moral disorder" just because I've seen a few Christians who are crazy?

 

[BlueAfgani]

You homosexuals scare me.

So you're admitting you're a homophobe, correct?

 

[ChaliceThunder]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

Friend,

Your experience is not universal, nor is it indicative of normal homosexual behavior.

A woman who married into my large family (she's older, and knows I am gay, and is aware of my long term relationship) has been coming on to me for years...suggestive comments, inappropriate groping when we greet one another at family gatherings. I find it ridiculous, and I just walk away from her. But I do not take her behavior to be normative of the heterosexual lifestyle. And heterosexuals do not scare me, even though there is overwhelming evidence that we should definitely protect children from heterosexuals who molest.

Frankly, I do not see how you made the leap.

What about the uncountable number of homosexuals who passed you by without giving you a look...or the ones who served you a burger, cut your hair, screened you going through airport security? They never groped you or made inappropriate comments. Your own admitted homophobia has led you to this, and nothing else.

You can overcome this fear.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

There is too a gay lifestyle. What is going on here is the attempt to repaint the culture to make sin look like something it is not.

I am not buying it. Homosexuality is an objective moral evil.

This is because you are an admitted homophobe.

The problem lies within you, friend...not within gay people.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I understand that you are a Priest, but stating that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder is a direct statement made by cardinal Ratzinger the current Pope while he was writing for Pope JP II. Not just my opinion, but within the context of the beliefs and theology of the RCC which I am a member of.

And exactly WHAT credential does that man have to make such an ill-informed pronouncement? He's been pulling political strings at the Vatican for over a generation. He continues to do the same.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I thought this thread was to express how one dislikes homosexuals as a group? Not nitpicking over semantics.


It's not inaccurate or misleading if I state exactly what I mean. Which I have. Three times now. I don't care what kind of life you live, as long as it honors God. Deciding to live as a homosexual rather than celibate is dishonoring to God, as it ignores what He's given us in His word, which you so blatantly dismiss by calling it inaccurate without any evidence as to why.


Yes I do insiste, because there is a difference. If there wasn't a difference, there would be no need for the differentiation between the two. And yes, I hope to see more gays choose celebacy, because that's what God wants as He has expressed in His word. That's fact per the Bible, but you don't care and seem to want to correct me every time I express my view. That's crap. There's no reason for you to do that. I say what I mean and mean what I say.


Statistics, please?

You've just met one.


Do you think there're going to remain celibate by hanging with those who press for practicing the lifestyle (yes, I'll continue to call it that, as I've clarified what I mean)?


Have fun deluding yourselves, then. I go by the Bible, which is not a religion, but a relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ. Nicene Creed.

Why should gay people want it? Because it doesn't leave you fulfilled. You want more and more. Why? Because it is sin, plain and simple.


I? I expect others to do what I haven't done? Read between the lines:
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I have SSA's and choose to remain celibate, never have sex or a romantic relationship with other men, to honor God in what He has commanded about homosexuality.
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I'm free to marry women. The Bible permits it. You are free to marry men. The Bible permits it. I live my life by the Bible. Why is that so hard for you to accept? Why is that so difficult to understand? I'm not pressing anyone on this site to choose what I've chosen. I'm not harassing people to not be gay. I'm stating what the Bible says on the issue, and what 'science' says on the issue. In the process a bit of my opinion might get thrown in, but even that is what I've deduced from the information that I have researched about homosexuality and my own conscience.

Not all people call them Christians either. Christian. Christ-follower. I've repeated that to you before.

Are you done scrutinizing me? Are you done spouting off on how misguided you apparently think I am? My views aren't changing. I don't expect yours to. But I do expect you to show at least a little respect for what I've chosen to do. I do expect you to live by what you've claimed to be- a Christian. I don't expect you to change your mind just for my sake- it's God's job to do the convincing. Call me young and nieve, I don't care. But don't keep pressuring/riduculing/ripping on me in the decisions I've made about this issue. That's rude.

I respect you for the choice you are making. I hope you are able to find fulfillment without at some point in your life without falling apart like a number of people have done so publically recently.

But I think you misunderstand how one comes to celibacy...True celibacy is a gift and a call from God. It is not the result of reading through Roman doctrine, only to find out that the only way you can be gay and Roman is to be celibate. That is a perversion of one of God's rarest of gifts.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I am innocent of the charges he is making against me... and I am proving my innocence.

That is different from leading a perpetual sin immmoral lifestyle and attempting to redefine Christian Morals in order to defend it.

Wait just a dang minute:

You mean a "family values," anti-gay senator who cruises for gay sex in an airport men's room is morally ok, while my living faithfully with one man for 23 years is not?

No wonder the religious right have such a skewed sense of morality?

 

[Gwenyfur]

Address the
TOPIC
not the
POSTER

Any further personal attacks will be reported and deleted.

Any further violation of CP&E DoH rules will result in permanent closure of this thread!

so again:

KNOCK IT OFF​

 

[tulc]

sorry
tulc(backing slowly out of the thread)

 

[BAFRIEND]

you may close the thread by OP request, Gwenyfer, or any other mod.

 

[Brieuse]

Well, first you have to believe that homosexuality is a normal in humans.

There is no proof for it.

Awhile back, it was claimed that a biological factor was found in homosexuality... when you read the claim n full it states its biological orgin was discovered in only two percent of homosexuals.

Hardly proof evidence that homosexuality is biological. What does that state about that other 98% ?

Science has been unable to locate or pinpoint the mind within physical brain function, so mind = biological is still a matter of metaphysics.

So, how can you assert that a homosexual orientation in part of the normal sexual spectrum when all of science has been unable to do it ?

Explain that here, and then go collect your Nobel Prize.

About your 2% claim, not in the report I read.

Secondly, they have been able to find the section of brain that contains the function for sexual attraction. They obviously haven't tested it with humans, rather with rats.

Thirdly, I am sorry for your experience in the bathroom, and I suggest you pray to God for healing as it's obvious there's some non-forgiveness within you. I know from personal experience that non-forgiveness eats up slowly from the inside.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

you may close the thread by OP request, Gwenyfer, or any other mod.

Why? Have you achieved your goal?

 

[tulc]

you may close the thread by OP request, Gwenyfer, or any other mod.

Why? Have you stopped disliking gay people?
tulc(that would indeed be a blessing)

 

[RMDY]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

There are creepy hetrosexuals like that too....

 

[Ohioprof]

There are creepy hetrosexuals like that too....

I agree with you, John! This must be the first time. People can usually find a few areas of agreement if we talk long enough.

 

[tulc]

sooooo hows that whole "I don't like homosexuals" thing working out for you BAFRIEND?
tulc(just wondering)

 

[RMDY]

When someone suggests that homosexuality is a sin, many people cry out in anger and label people who say this things that are not even true.

I am truly sorry if the sentence "homosexuality is a sin" makes some of you believe that it gives people special rights to bash gays and feel superior over homosexuals.
What ever happened to being meek and humble? If one is humble and meek while they believe homosexuality to be a sin, is that hateful, unhumble, and unmeek?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

When someone suggests that homosexuality is a sin, many people cry out in anger and label people who say this things that are not even true.

I am truly sorry if the sentence "homosexuality is a sin" makes some of you believe that it gives people special rights to bash gays and feel superior over homosexuals.
What ever happened to being meek and humble? If one is humble and meek while they believe homosexuality to be a sin, is that hateful, unhumble, and unmeek?

it is if you go around blasting homosexual people for behaving naturally.

I believe some nasty things about certain groups of people, which is fine and good... but if I actually went out and started CONDEMNING those people, particularly when they have done nothing to me personally, then that wouldn't be very meek or humble, and would probably come across as hateful

 

[Zaac]

The passages of Scripture used to define marriage as one man and one woman are descriptive, not prescriptive. They describe a norm, but they are not normative. God nowhere commands a definition of marriage.

Just a shame.

 

[Ohioprof]

it is if you go around blasting homosexual people for behaving naturally.

I believe some nasty things about certain groups of people, which is fine and good... but if I actually went out and started CONDEMNING those people, particularly when they have done nothing to me personally, then that wouldn't be very meek or humble, and would probably come across as hateful

Good answer. I agree with you.