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why humans are not primates

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HitchSlap

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in my opinion the primate classification for humans is wrong and should be re-evaluated and reclassified as a stand alone entity.



Amen, and here's God's Word on it:

Humans (man) was made on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 long BEFORE any other living creature, since everything else was made, from the Water, on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 which was some 10 Billion years AFTER Adam was made. All other living creatures began only 3.77 Billion years ago, in the Water, EXACTLY as God tells us. Scripture and Science AGREE. Amen?
How do you know this is "God's" opinion?
 
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well, because it was decided the classification of pluto was wrong, and it was reclassified.
No, that never happened. It was decided that the classification of Pluto as a planet, but the exclusion of other similar bodies, was inconsistent. Not wrong, just not a sensible classification scheme to adopt. Scientists tend to adopt classification schemes that follow rules, and doing so for Pluto meant that lots of other planets would have to be classified as planets as well. Classification can be arbitrary. Nothing prevented astronomers from still calling Pluto a planet -- that's why they had to vote on the subject.

A meaningful question would be whether classifying humans as primates was useful or sensible. To which the answer is, "yes". Humans are more similar to other primates than they are to any other animals, and humans and chimpanzees, for example, are much more similar to each other than either is to something like a lemur, also classified as a primate.
 
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comedy gold.

bravo.
XD
You haven't even demonstrated a basic, fundamental, understanding of ToE.

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." -- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer (From an Amazon.com book review)
 
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No, that never happened. It was decided that the classification of Pluto as a planet, but the exclusion of other similar bodies, was inconsistent. Not wrong, just not a sensible classification scheme to adopt. Scientists tend to adopt classification schemes that follow rules, and doing so for Pluto meant that lots of other planets would have to be classified as planets as well. Classification can be arbitrary. Nothing prevented astronomers from still calling Pluto a planet -- that's why they had to vote on the subject.

A meaningful question would be whether classifying humans as primates was useful or sensible. To which the answer is, "yes". Humans are more similar to other primates than they are to any other animals, and humans and chimpanzees, for example, are much more similar to each other than either is to something like a lemur, also classified as a primate.

and yet dwarf planets are "more similar" to planets than any other celestial phenomena , no ?
in fact nothing else comes close (planetoids and asteroids I suppose but then they are another classification altogether).

if you are happy that you are classified as a primate then good,
i defend your right to think that,
just as i defend your right to express that opinion.

good luck to you


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A meaningful question would be whether classifying humans as primates was useful or sensible. To which the answer is, "yes".
Did their criteria take anything Genesis 1 says into account?

And which came first, in your opinion:

Classifying humans as animals, or calling us animals first, then classifying us?
 
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ha ha ha,
in your rush to attack me you missed the part of the thread where the second post was addressed.

oops

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And those objections have been rebutted.

All this is up thread and yet you repeat your assertions if they not been addressed.
 
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and yet dwarf planets are "more similar" to planets than any other celestial phenomena , no ?
in fact nothing else comes close (planetoids and asteroids I suppose but then they are another classification altogether).
Asteroids do indeed come close. Your point?

if you are happy that you are classified as a primate then good,
i defend your right to think that,
No, you don't. You said that classifying humans as primates was wrong. More to the point, humans are classified as primates, and humans are more similar to other primates than some other primates are to each other. Your justification for rejecting this classification does not reflect biological reality.
 
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Did their criteria take anything Genesis 1 says into account?
I have no idea. I don't see any reason why it would have made a difference.

And which came first, in your opinion:

Classifying humans as animals, or calling us animals first, then classifying us?
Calling us animals is classifying us as animals.
 
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And those objections have been rebutted.

All this is up thread and yet you repeat your assertions if they not been addressed.
to which I addressed and am awaiting a reply.....
your cross thread stalking is now becoming a little creepy.
if you wish to slag me off at least be accurate.

thank you
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You wouldn't understand.
To be honest, I thought he was going to shuffle out of the question by saying they classified primates as humans.

But he has his own way of sidestepping the question.

I didn't expect a real answer, anyway.
 
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to which I addressed and am awaiting a reply.....
your cross thread stalking is now becoming a little creepy.
if you wish to slag me off at least be accurate.

thank you
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I'm sorry but where have I insulted you? I've been nothing but polite.

In fact I am on my last warning from the mods and one misstep and I'm out.

Simply find the post where I have insulted you bring it to the attention of the mods and I will be gone.

Your move.
 
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