I know that tells me nothing about the value of hijab.... it is in your laws and still "it does not protect" your women from the actual "evils" of "western society" still they are around... so no point here...
Really? You are talking as if men don't have any desire against women that they won't look at her or get tempted. And this is not the case of course. And what happens in your countries proves my point. Usually the case in our societies is that men even if not so religious look at veiled women much more modestly than those who are not completely veiled, and this is not only a matter of religion, but a moral matter also. They may look at an unveiled woman, or may even deceive her, but when it comes to a veiled woman, his view towards her is much more respectful. Of course I don't say that veil will only prevent adultery, but it apparently limits it, and it is not only appearance that means that she is good, but it's her actions and faith as well, both are important.
The diversity is yours to point out.... I had no idea it is for all the body thanks for bringing it up... So if hijab is all over covering what is the purpose of it? in the case of women wearing it? How is this making women to feel free and equal members in society?
All of what I am saying and you still didn't understand what is the purpose of Hijab? I think we are already discussing it.
Where did Muslims claim equality between the two genders? This is the absolute injustice, as it will mean that woman should do the hard works man does, for example, why don't women work as butchers or in mines or priests as men do? Why don't you forget about the ladies first rule? Isn't it supposed to be an equality? The case is that God recognizes that there is a distiction between the nature of men and women, and that's why the laws must be set according to that distinction.
I do not see any connection to hijab here...sorry...
Yes there is. All what is happening in your society is the ultimate result of opening the doors for adultery, one of these doors is unveiling women.
So...a solo confession to God would do the trick... -
There is no trick, this is something between her and God and He knows her intentions, we don't need a mediator between us and God.
A sin that does not have any value since she can confess it herself and she is free to go... legalism but not conscious effort to "correct" one self ... I get it.
What do you mean by her being free to go? I didn't say so, since Prophet (Peace be upon him) tells us that if you have the authority to change a wrong action by your hand, so do it, if not, so by your tongue, if not, then by your heart. So if a woman goes out unveiled, her father or her elder brother or her husband should prevent her, if they didn't the government should.
This is not about me... but about Islam... Come to the Orthodox forum to ask if we are sola scriptura...hehehe....Last time I checked I was... what if I am not I do not have to accept the Bible?
Are you a sola scriptura? Well I have seen many Orthodox here as Montalban and Bushmaster who consider traditions as well as Copts in Egypt.
And even if you are, don't you believe that there is a HS which guides your church? Were was he when Tertullian and the writer of the didascalia told these unjust opinions?
