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No problem gentlemen... when you get to Heaven and the Lord reveals that His plan for your life would have been greatly enhanced had you allowed the Holy Spirit to pray the perfect will of God thru you... He will wipe the tears away from yo eyes!
You have a copy of the Word, so it's your responsibility to seek out this benefit.
I understand some are not even willing to search the scriptures on certain things, so... carry on!
Here, let me help you out with that... Yes, Jesus Christ is actually the One Who is responsible for all the teaching in the New Testament (as well as the entire Word of God, since He IS the Word) that speaks of praying in tongues which is praying in the Holy Ghost.
A couple of weeks ago I was watching a Live Sermon with Rodney Howard Brown on the internet where they were singing a praising the Lord for awhile and then they gave a few testimonies on how God was doing these great things in their life and when I got through watching it I just felt a strong connection with the Lord and I started praying a little on how thankful I was for some stuff and I felt like I was interrupted with a strong feeling to receive the Holy Spirit Baptism because I had been holding off on doing it because I either wanted to do it in private or in a place where multiple people were receiving it because I wasn't sure how the whole process of tongues would go. I didn't know if I would be praying in tongues where my whole house could here me or if it was a choice. And Frankly i would have been embarrased if other people would have heard me in my house. So my mind was back in forth on it with a strong compulsion by The Holy Spirit nudging me to do it. I was in my mind saying "not here because i don't want people to hear me if I start praying in Tongues" and "Its 9:00 at night shouldn't i be doing this somewhere meaningful and at a good hour?" And I was back and forth back and forth and I Finally made the leap and said "Lord please give me the Holy Spirit Baptism" and my heart started racing and it felt as if electricity was coarsing through my whole body and I started praising and worshiping and i thought I would automatically just start speaking in tongues but nothing was happening with the tongues so I started trying to speak(very quietly) the way I've heard people speak like that and I kept that up for awhile and thought at the time I was doing it but the next day I was trying to speak in tongues and I realised "i think im just muttering nonsense that im just making up in my mind and if I were praying in tongues there would be some kind of STRONG connection with God" and I just felt absolutely no connection and im just making up words that sound kind of Arabic(y). So what am I missing did I not receive tongues because that night I didn't want to speak out loud or do I not know how to use it? What am I missing?
No problem gentlemen... when you get to Heaven and the Lord reveals that His plan for your life would have been greatly enhanced had you allowed the Holy Spirit to pray the perfect will of God thru you... He will wipe the tears away from yo eyes!
You have a copy of the Word, so it's your responsibility to seek out this benefit.
I understand some are not even willing to search the scriptures on certain things, so... carry on!
No where does it state that all will pray in tongues, no where.
Props to you Gospel Guy! I was reading through the the last pages of this thread and was following your debates with some of these other people and you actually KNOW what your talking about and what The Word says about this topic! I believe The Lord wants everyone to speak in tongues to (what you said) pray the PERFECT WILL of God! Keep it up GospelGuy!
No problem gentlemen... when you get to Heaven and the Lord reveals that His plan for your life would have been greatly enhanced had you allowed the Holy Spirit to pray the perfect will of God thru you... He will wipe the tears away from yo eyes!
You have a copy of the Word, so it's your responsibility to seek out this benefit.
I understand some are not even willing to search the scriptures on certain things, so... carry on!
There are entire bible based Churches taking the cessationist position from scripture
Unfortunately for them... there's many wonderful, powerful things that God would like to do in their lives that Jesus paid for them to have on the Cross that they will never experience or get to have due to carnal, man-made religious teaching that denies the promises in God's Word and replaces the wisdom of God with the wisdom of man.... which deception is some the devil's finest work to keep the minds of confessing Christians blinded to the benefits of what Jesus bought for man at the Cross.
Opps! as they say
Not everyone is called to speak in tongues. It is not a requirement for salvation or living a fully edifying life of Christianity. God gives different gifts.
late comer to the thread ..that's me hahaYes, God is good and works in different ways. I too think it will come naturally as well 'if' it is meant to be.
great testimony.I have found that all my prayers have been answered. Not always the way I thought they would be but always they have worked out for my good. Even the awful things have worked out for my good. Once my daughter was in the hospital for 3 mo. at the point of death many times (peritonitis) the Lord had given me a real peace I stayed in the hospital with her for the entire time. The great thing was that my daughter and I had a lot of relationship problems. My family of origin was very dysfunctional and it seemed that was continuing, until her illness. She was so sick, I had to bath her and clean her up like a baby and it allowed us to renew our relationship in such a loving and natural way. Like truly a fresh start. IDK that God causes illnesses for His purposes but I do know that He brings good out of our suffering if we allow Him to and believe He is for us.late comer to the thread ..that's me haha
if its meant to be ?
cant say I understand why some do and some don't .. but I would like to allow for ALL to do so .
"desire earnestly the gifts" ...
"ask and you shall receive"...
the invite is there for all .
again .. I do not know why not all who have the Holy Spirit ,have this gift of tongues. Some I know spoke a few words when they were baptized and never really did after that.
what I Do know is I have asked for this gift and I received it ..I asked for other gifts and I received them ..
I asked for understanding of scriptures that baffled me .. and I received understanding ...
sounds very pious doesn't it haha.. but I never received all these things outwardly, in an instant ..
I ask the lord sincerely .. then I get up from prayer and I say thank you lord that you have given me .....-insert gods will based request here-... and then I go about my life .
we must ask believing that we will receive what we ask for or what is the point ?
quick example -one time I asked the lord sincerely after pondering it for a long time ..for understanding in regard to fasting... I rose up thanked the lord for the understanding he would give me and went my way ...
-TEN months later ..I was reading a scripture and POW ..a rush of revelation swept over me so I was ecstatic and filled with joy as I suddenly got revelation layer upon layer of what fasting really is about ..
looking back over the years I have realized that God has answered every prayer .. even the ones I regret praying lol ...
there are only two kinds of prayer .. believing and unbelieving
there are only two kinds of answer .... answers we have seen and answers that have not yet been manifest to us
HE is faithful ..
So I encourage every one .. desire earnestly ALL the gifts of the Spirit
ask , believe , abide .
such things are jewels of the kingdom ... and it is the ones who search as if for something precious that find these jewels of the kingdom of heaven
great testimony.I have found that all my prayers have been answered. Not always the way I thought they would be but always they have worked out for my good. Even the awful things have worked out for my good. Once my daughter was in the hospital for 3 mo. at the point of death many times (peritonitis) the Lord had given me a real peace I stayed in the hospital with her for the entire time. The great thing was that my daughter and I had a lot of relationship problems. My family of origin was very dysfunctional and it seemed that was continuing, until her illness. She was so sick, I had to bath her and clean her up like a baby and it allowed us to renew our relationship in such a loving and natural way. Like truly a fresh start. IDK that God causes illnesses for His purposes but I do know that He brings good out of our suffering if we allow Him to and believe He is for us.
When I asked for the gift of speaking in tongues it was about 10 month until I got it and often answers to prayers come decades after I've asked, always I know the Lord has it. He gives me strength when I don't have it and courage when it isn't there, patience while I wait . I just love the Lord so much. Life is so wondrous in His presence. The older I get the more wondrous it becomes.
God bless, andrea
Not all will speak in tongues. I know many Christians with evidence of having the Holy Spirit baptism, but they don't all speak in tongues.
My wife and I show other evidence of the Holy Spirit baptism, but do not speak in tongues. My wife has desired speaking in tongues for years, but is unable to do so.
I am not saying that speaking in tongues has vanished, but rather that not all will speak in tongues.
Here is my blog explaining the Gift of Tongues or "special languages", maybe this will help.
I do not wish to offend anyone, I just want clear up some things for those who may not be clear on the subject. The Bible states this gift is a sign to nonbelievers so that they might believe. This gift also serves as a refreshment to the believer.
It also builds bridges between language barriers and our expression of love to God, it allows us to express our love to God in languages that have different ways and different words that hold different meanings of expressing love better than our own language. Paul states that when we speak in tongues we are only speaking it to God and NOT to man. If one attempts to speak in tongues directly to a group of people, this is not the gift of tongues, that doesn't mean what they said wasn't a gift of teaching or prophecy, its just not the gift of tongues. The gift of tongues will never be spoken during a teaching. Because the gift of tongues is vocalized it cannot happen during a teaching, God is a God of order and will never interrupt one gift with a another. The gift of tongues is also a sign, example: if a French man who speaks no English is present in a place where God is being praised and those who love him are expressing their love to him in English. If this French man cannot understand English, God can put the gift of different Languages into someone present and they will begin speaking in French whether they could before or not. They are able to speak a language that they could never speak on their own but by God filling them with this gift, the French man is able to understand. This serves not only as a language barrier but as a great sign from God to his people. Paul states there are 4 guidelines to the proper use of this gift, 1. Every word spoken out loud must be understood and there must be an interpretation for everyone present to understand it, God desires everyone to benefit, so if it is spoken out loud there will always be someone there to interpret it. 2. Tongues must never be spoken as a GROUP in front of nonbelievers, this may frighten them and push them away. 3. Only 2 or at the most 3 people at one time will speak at any one service and it must be one at a time and there must be interpretation. 4. No tongues will be spoken out loud WITHOUT an interpreter. Having an interpreter means that God gifts someone who doesn't normally understand the tongue but can due to God's gift of interpretation or having someone in the group that just happens to speak the language.
The gift of tongues does not mean being baptized in the Holy Spirit, God chooses to give you this gift, it is not a requirement. Tongues will never be gibberish, it will always be actual words. Source 1 Cor. 12:10
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