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Why Haven't I Spoken In Tongues?

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although Scripture doesn't say to "get in the closet" if there is no interpreter, it does say to stay silent altogether if there is no interpreter:

1 Corinthians 14:28 But if there is no interpreter, that person should keep silent in the church and speak to himself and to God.

no . it says to not be audible in the church and to speak to himself and God.

it just means don't take up public time with the message . he can still speak to himself and God while still in the assembly just not so loud to disrupt the service .
 
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the format of "church" back then was more open concept . people would come with things to share to build up each other .. and one would start speaking in a tongue and start off loud so everyone could hear it .. if no one to translate .. then just not so loud .. but still edifying himself with profound mysteries in the spirit and speaking to God .
 
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I have posted my testimony of the Pentecostal Holiness church here...

http://www.christianforums.com/t7768248/

It is too bad that they did not keep the Holy Spirit alive in the sanctuary. When my generation came along people would try to interpret tongues, and everyone knew that it was not of God, especially when the interpretation was not scriptural. A fake anointing will kill a good spirit within a church faster than anything and I was helpless to stop it.
 
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I recall Lakeland . there was a lot of spiritual matter flowing through some places that were participating in that in heart . the spiritual matter was not all 100% the holy spirit . a lot of it was people's hearts amplified and other stuff angels and a lot of other stuff .. but in anything you can always find what you're looking for no matter how far away from expectations it may seem . and i did find something very precious hidden in it . something one would never expect to find anywhere .

but the point i was getting at is .. in any place God can be found . you just have to know how to look .. and sift through what is not what you're looking for . and though what you perceive "what was" is realistically .. not what it really was .. you can carry that dream in your heart and seek the substance of that thing hoped for and become it .. it wont be what was .. but it will be .. if you believe .
 
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no . it says to not be audible in the church and to speak to himself and God.

it just means don't take up public time with the message . he can still speak to himself and God while still in the assembly just not so loud to disrupt the service .


... that person should keep silent...

silent does not mean quiet, it means silent.

silent: 1. a: making no utterance : mute, speechless
 
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... that person should keep silent...

silent does not mean quiet, it means silent.

silent: 1. a: making no utterance : mute, speechless

That's interesting but it continues to say that he should keep talking to himself and God . so there's room for variation of interpretation
 
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Why Haven't I Spoken In Tongues?

If you've been born again, and have ask for the infilling of the Holy Spirit and have believed you have received according to scripture... it's because you have chosen so far not to.


Not all will speak in tongues.

The NT does not teach this, but does teach that all should be speaking in tongues for personal edification. It is true not all will speak in tongues in a public assembly, which has nothing to do with tongues for personal edification which is the Holy Spirit praying the perfect will of God thru you and building a super structure within your soul which is the hope of the Gospel (the mind of Christ).

This is a very, very important part of spiritual growth and the renewing of the mind coupled with adhering to what the NT teaches.

But, if one decides not to speak in tongues for personal edification then they will just miss out on certain aspects of the ministry of the Holy Ghost in their lives. That's not a sin, it's just not using something that is very beneficial that God intends for all of His people to take advantage of.

Kinda like a guy going to war and refuses to use that 50 caliber machine gun they provided for him in favor of a single shot shot gun. Sure, he's shooting, but he could be far more effective.
 
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If you've been born again, and have ask for the infilling of the Holy Spirit and have believed you have received according to scripture... it's because you have chosen so far not to.




The NT does not teach this, but does teach that all should be speaking in tongues for personal edification. It is true not all will speak in tongues in a public assembly, which has nothing to do with tongues for personal edification which is the Holy Spirit praying the perfect will of God thru you and building a super structure within your soul which is the hope of the Gospel (the mind of Christ).

This is a very, very important part of spiritual growth and the renewing of the mind coupled with adhering to what the NT teaches.

But, if one decides not to speak in tongues for personal edification then they will just miss out on certain aspects of the ministry of the Holy Ghost in their lives. That's not a sin, it's just not using something that is very beneficial that God intends for all of His people to take advantage of.

Kinda like a guy going to war and refuses to use that 50 caliber machine gun they provided for him in favor of a single shot shot gun. Sure, he's shooting, but he could be far more effective.

that doesn't follow, since Paul wrote "do not forbid the speaking in tongues" it means a large portion of those Paul counted as Christians in fact did not speak in tongues.
 
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that doesn't follow, since Paul wrote "do not forbid the speaking in tongues" it means a large portion of those Paul counted as Christians in fact did not speak in tongues.

IF one decides not to speak in tongues for personal edification then they will just miss out on certain aspects of the ministry of the Holy Ghost in their lives.

That's not a sin, it's just not using something that is very beneficial that God intends for all of His people to take advantage of.

Those that know whassup spiritually and desire to walk in victory in every area of their lives... are going to speak in tongues for personal edification...primarily because they can read!
 
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Not all will speak in tongues. I know many Christians with evidence of having the Holy Spirit baptism, but they don't all speak in tongues.

My wife and I show other evidence of the Holy Spirit baptism, but do not speak in tongues. My wife has desired speaking in tongues for years, but is unable to do so.

I am not saying that speaking in tongues has vanished, but rather that not all will speak in tongues.
Well said, I had other gifts before ever receiving Tongues.
 
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Not everyone will speak in tongues and not everyone defines tongues in the same way. I would pose the question: Why do you wish to speak in tongues?

The Holy Spirit asked me that very question 20 years ago. That was after my wife and I had experienced many biblical-level miracles and spiritual experiences, I asked, "Why can't I speak in tongues?" and the Holy Spirit responded, "After all I've shown you, why do you need to? What do I need to prove to you?"

Something I've noted over my last reading of Acts is making me ponder:

The recording of speaking in tongues as evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit appears to connected to proving to the Hebraic believers that the salvation of non-Hebraic believers was genuine.

I'm not saying that's the only circumstance it happened, but it appears to be the primary situation it's recorded--thus the primary situation it needed to be recorded.

Jesus said, "believe and be baptized."

The Holy Spirit first demonstrates to the Hebraic believers on Pentacost that tongues are a sign of His activity, and it's that specific thing--and only that specific thing--that convinces the Hebraic believers that Jesus will save Gentiles.

We see the curious situation of Philip the deacon going to Samaria (notice, too, that the Hebraic believers were pretty useless evangelizing outside their own community--it's the Hellenist believers who mostly carry the gospel beyond Jerusalem).

The Samaritans believe and are baptized. Peter and John (Hebraic believers) go up to see for themselves, and they are shown the tongues. Then Philip baptizes the Ethiopian eunuch--no tongues are reported. And that appears to be the consistent pattern.

Where there are Hebraic believers to be convinced, tongues are reported, otherwise not.
 
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After all I've shown you, why do you need to? What do I need to prove to you?

Only one problem... that was not the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ that said that to you. This is not a salvation issue, it is a spiritual growth issue.

The true Holy Spirit, not the false holy spirit, would have led you to the scriptures that teach you of the benefits of praying in tongues for personal edification. satan has a vested interest in Christians NOT praying in tongues!

Sure you can be saved without speaking in tongues, but scripture speaks of benefits that are available only by speaking in tongues.

But hey, if yo happy with your arrangement then that's all that matters for you, so no need for the Lord to try to lead you to something you have made up your mind to believe is not necessary and/or not for Christians today.

There are numerous benefits Jesus bought for us at the Cross that are going un-used in today's modern church. Jesus wants folks to have these gifts, but He will not force anything on anybody... and so lot of folks be goin without!
 
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Only one problem... that was not the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ that said that to you. This is not a salvation issue, it is a spiritual growth issue.

The true Holy Spirit, not the false holy spirit, would have led you to the scriptures that teach you of the benefits of praying in tongues for personal edification. satan has a vested interest in Christians NOT praying in tongues!

I would suggest that you are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, because prior to that, I had cast out demons by the same Holy Spirit...which is what He was referring to at the time.
 
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IF one decides not to speak in tongues for personal edification then they will just miss out on certain aspects of the ministry of the Holy Ghost in their lives.

That's not a sin, it's just not using something that is very beneficial that God intends for all of His people to take advantage of.

Those that know whassup spiritually and desire to walk in victory in every area of their lives... are going to speak in tongues for personal edification...primarily because they can read!

no it works the other way around . you assume what the text is saying is coming from a correct logical premise . you don't read your denominational theology into the text .
 
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I go by God breathed and God inspired scripture, not theology or that which any denomination teaches.

What do you go by?

Well . it was obvious you're doing the pentecostal theologizing about tongues thing . and when anything else is taught other than what is taught by the church a lot of confusion talk follows .

What the text says is: "do not forbid the speaking in tongues" meaning .. not everyone spoke in tongues . but then you provided a rather long response ignoring that scripture . so i don't think your statement that you go by the scripture is entirely accurate .
 
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Apparently, you have not studied what the entire New Testament (and scriptures that foretell of this in the OT) has said about speaking in tongues. That is the problem.

Had you done your homework, you would know that it is God's will for ALL New Covenant believers to use their prayer language so the Holy Spirit could pray the perfect will of God thru us and so the devil would be clueless on what we are sayin!

If you wanna miss out on that, and if you don't mind satan understanding everything you are saying in your communication with the Lord... have at it.

Yes, we all have to decide how far we are going to go in following what the Word of God teaches and how far we go in taking advantage of everything Jesus Christ provided when He gave gifts unto men. I understand that not everybody is interested in all the things Jesus has given us and just want a few things that they are comfortable with.
 
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Apparently, you have not studied what the entire New Testament (and scriptures that foretell of this in the OT) has said about speaking in tongues. That is the problem. Had you done your homework, you would know that it is God's will for ALL New Covenant believers to use their prayer language so the Holy Spirit could pray the perfect will of God thru us and so the devil would be clueless on what we are sayin!

If you wanna miss out on that, and if you don't mind satan understanding everything you are saying in your communication with the Lord... have at it.

Ah well . this is the non denominational section . denominational teachings have their own sections you know .
 
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I am non denominational.

Lots of non denominational people be praying in the Spirit.

you're not quite non-denominational . thanks for trying to convert me to your point of view with confusion talk . but i'm not interested . have a good night :wave:
 
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