Why fight if you can unite?

[Git]

Hello everyone

I am a 17-year-old high school student from Finland and I consider myself to be atheist.

I am very irritated by the modern state of the religious world in the developed countries. I decided to become an atheist after several occasions of having very uncomfortable contact with some more fundamentalistic lutheric persons. Do not misjudge my meaning from what I just said. Atheists trying to force their will on others are just as bad as anyone else trying to do the same. I consider it to be a fact, even though I myself am an atheist.

I am a socialist and pretty interested from going to study politics in the university. While we have several issues with people arguing over this and this idealogical matter, couldn't we do something else? You are not supposed to allow other people to trample over your ideas, but you should be able to make at least some kind of temporary compromises.

I have pondered for a few years already how it would be better, if instead of fighting and staying overly ferocious of one's own idealogies, be it religious or political, we would agree to make compromises.

Religions do not cause conflict. -Isms (idealogies) do not cause conflict. People who are not agreeing to move even the tiniest amount in their stance do. Those are the kind of people ready to use violence to accomplish their goals.

As you see, I have taken a neutral and maybe a bit too utopian and idealistic stance to be honest, but I would be ready to move to some directions to set more peace between people.

I do acknowledge that no matter how hard we try, there will never be true and pure equality, but that should not be a halting factor. Nothing is ever perfect, but things can be better!

I would be very delighted, it people would talk about the subject of whole religious and idealogical world in this topic. I would request for people to use somewhat formal language with no swearing or trying to force your own beliefs.

Thank you for reading this

Yours sincerely,
Git

 

[Barricade24]

Some how, I don't see any religions compromising on any ground. If someone is a Christian and believes in Jesus while another person believes in Buddhism for example, what common ground do the two share? They both have a religion true, but the are so vastly different that people won't "compromise" if the believe something so strongly and someone does something that would completely contradict what the believe. The two may be able to get along, but they most likely won't compromise with religion. Religion really can't be compromised anyway.

 

[Git]

If people are not willing to not enforce their beliefs (be it political or religious) in a very strict matter, then doesn't it just make the person an inconsiderate moron?

I am a hardcore socialist, yet I do always try to get compromises. Compromises and agreements are what keeps society together.

Also, with the buddhist example you are wrong. Just them being able to live side by side at the same area with no conflict means that they have been able to make some kind of "unspoken agreements".

Also, usually the most diehard fundamentalist christians are just people led astray by the dark history of the catholic church. No one ever thought for the christian god to be malicious or angry, but loving and caring (I have also read the bible a few times to confirm that the bible tells people to take care from one another and that force is not the answer. "But whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.")

And if you want to know, all the great religions have quite a lot of things in common. They all try to guide people to live good lives and to help one another. It is not the religions' fault for what violences they cause nowadays, it is either misinterprentation or irrational people.

The main point would have been more like "Let me be like this in peace and I will grant you the same". It is just a shame that nearly all religious groups have some group of people on their sights. Whether it be homesexuals, the mentally handicapped, politicians they don't like from or anyone who doesn't think like them.

If we do not accept others for what they are, then we can just abandon all reason and know only eternal war, for that is what the road is leading up to. There is always war, but that kind of war which I described would be worse.

 

[Barricade24]

I never ment that the two people with different religions couldn't get along, what I meant was that (for example) people that worship one god and someone who worships a completly different one would have a difficult time compromising that particular issue. Not saying that some religions don't have some things in common either. It's just that there are some things that people just won't compromise with.