Why evolution should not be a religious issue

[HitchSlap]

And when they "come to their senses" afterwards, and don't realize they made the right choice, then again, I don't believe they were truly saved in the first place.

And it sounds to me like you're agreeing, but for different reasons.

There is no such thing as "truly saved," only beliefs. "Truly saved" is hyperbole one Christian uses to declare another more Christian than themselves. It's a meaningless term.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you are a critical thinker and would like to evaluate evolution theology take a look at this six part series and then come back and let me know what you think.

141 - Science Is Just About Facts, Religion Is Just About Faith - Amazing Discoveries TV

WARNING YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING NEW

It was probably made by some dishonest fools. Why should I wasted my time on it? Can you give me their best argument? I see that they openly admit that religious belief is not valid. Faith, as you know, is the worst reason to believe something.

ETA: Here is a reasonable offer. First are these people educated in this topic at all? If they are I will watch it until they make either their first lie or first incredibly stupid mistake.

And in return you need to watch a video of my choice.

 

[USincognito]

If you are a critical thinker

Oh my...

and would like to evaluate evolution theology...

What is "evolution theology"? that's not even a grammatically correct phrase.

...take a look at this six part series and then come back and let me know what you think.

141 - Science Is Just About Facts, Religion Is Just About Faith - Amazing Discoveries TV

WARNING YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING NEW

How about you summarize some of the main points in your own words?

 

[USincognito]

Science has enabled mankind to destroy our world.

Actually, the earth will chug along regardless of what humans do to it.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Going by that logic, Judaism is true and Christianity is false, because Judaism came first.

Cain killed Abel, whose sacrifice was the representation of Jesus. So Christian came first. (Semantics)

 

[Speedwell]

How about you summarize some of the main points in your own words?

They only have one main point, the same one main point as other Creationists. From the "beliefs" section of that website:

"Creation—We believe in the unerring veracity of the Bible. It is the Word of God from cover to cover. This belief includes the literal interpretation of Genesis 1—that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 literal days and rested the 7th, and that the signs of His creative work exist in the natural world even today."

 

[Subduction Zone]

Cain killed Abel, whose sacrifice was the representation of Jesus. So Christian came first. (Semantics)

No, that is just another myth and in no was does Abel represent Jesus. That is poor theology on your part to say the least.

 

[Strathos]

Cain killed Abel, whose sacrifice was the representation of Jesus. So Christian came first. (Semantics)

Jews would disagree.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you are a critical thinker and would like to evaluate evolution theology take a look at this six part series and then come back and let me know what you think.

141 - Science Is Just About Facts, Religion Is Just About Faith - Amazing Discoveries TV

WARNING YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING NEW

I was not even 2 minutes into the video and they started to lie. How can you expect to convert people if your sources are lying sources?

 

[USincognito]

They only have one main point, the same one main point as other Creationists. From the "beliefs" section of that website:

SDA is the ideological mother from which YEC came forth. Apparently these videos are by a SDA pastor who doesn't appear to have any science background and seems to focus primarily on worldview rather than the science.

 

[AV1611VET]

Most of the deconversion stories I hear are due to cite the hate and intolerance of certain Christians,

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[AV1611VET]

It's a meaningless term.

Like your caption?

 

[Strathos]

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I was speaking mostly from my own personal experience talking to these people and hearing their stories.

 

[AV1611VET]

I was speaking mostly from my own personal experience talking to these people and hearing their stories.

Do you really think someone is going to tell you in person that they are leaving the Christian faith because they find Doctrine X so offensive?

On the Internet, where they can voice themselves anonymously, they can tell their true feelings.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh my...



What is "evolution theology"? that's not even a grammatically correct phrase.



How about you summarize some of the main points in your own words?

I would actually recommend watching the video for the first four or five minutes I did not know how extremely wrong and ignorant that Scalia was. He contradicted himself more than once and demonstrated that he had no understanding of how science was done at all. Here is to hoping that Trump does not find another Scalia.

 

[klutedavid]

Hello Zone.

Almost all observations have error bars associated with them. That shows that evidence is not perfect either.

This was the point that I was making, observational data cannot be trusted. The ideology itself is based on a false premise.

Yes, that is because science works.

Any ideology is limited by the a prior premises.

That only shows that you are being a hypocrite.

Everyone is a hypocrite. Socrates said, everyone was a liar also.
I freely admit to being a deeply flawed person, in fact that is my boast. Hope your not claiming to be a superior primate by any chance.

When you rely on scientific theories every day of your life you should give them a bit more respect than that or perhaps you should consider not using the science that you do not understand and seem to hate.

Science is radically altering the lives of the primates. Science is altering even the geology of the planet itself.

Science categorizes history into epochs. The Holocene epoch is the geological epoch that began after the Pleistocene at approximately 9,700 BCE. We are in the Holocene epoch at present. Now, there is an increasing group of scientists that are proposing a new epoch. The Anthropocene epoch is a proposed epoch dating from when human activities started to have a significant global impact on Earth's geology and ecosystems. The date given for the commencement of the Anthropocene epoch
is the 1950's.

The impact of science on the world at all levels, has been
profoundly under estimated.

I don't hate science, I don't hate any ideology. I acknowledge the limitations of all primate ideology. We are in need of a another inquisition, we may not have too much time left.

 

[klutedavid]

Actually, the earth will chug along regardless of what humans do to it.

Hello US.

We are having a dramatic effect on the earth's atmosphere and ecosystems. We have been driving innumerable species into extinction. If we continue on the present heading, we may even precipitate our own extinction, the clock is ticking.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

No, that is just another myth and in no was does Abel represent Jesus. That is poor theology on your part to say the least.

You did not understand the point, which was that the blood sacrfice Able offered represented Jesus

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hello Zone.

This was the point that I was making, observational data cannot be trusted. The ideology itself is based on a false premise.

But you are wrong again. The fact that there can be errors in no way makes science untrustworthy. It meerely means that one must be careful in ones conclusions. It still works and theism does not work.

Any ideology is limited by the a prior premises.

What supposed a priori premises do you think that scientists use? I am betting that you get this one wrong.

Everyone is a hypocrite. Socrates said, everyone was a liar also.
I freely admit to being a deeply flawed person, in fact that is my boast. Hope your not claiming to be a superior primate by any chance.

Yes, but the sort that you do is rather unforgivable. And you and I are both primates. I don't see why you stuck that in there. What is your excuse for relying on the science that you deny every day?

Science is radically altering the lives of the primates. Science is altering even the geology of the planet itself.

That is not "science". Man may be altering the planet, but that is not "science altering the planet".

Science categorizes history into epochs. The Holocene epoch is the geological epoch that began after the Pleistocene at approximately 9,700 BCE. We are in the Holocene epoch at present. Now, there is an increasing group of scientists that are proposing a new epoch. The Anthropocene epoch is a proposed epoch dating from when human activities started to have a significant global impact on Earth's geology and ecosystems. The date given for the commencement of the Anthropocene epoch
is the 1950's.

Correction, scientists categorize history into epochs.

The impact of science on the world at all levels, has been
profoundly under estimated.

Again, not science, man.

I don't hate science, I don't hate any ideology. I acknowledge the limitations of all primate ideology. We are in need of a another inquisition, we may not have too much time left.

It appears that you do. Do you oppose teaching evolution in schools? If you do what do you have against reality?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You did not understand the point, which was that the blood sacrfice Able offered represented Jesus

No, it does so only for a very few Christians. But that is merely their own interpretation of the Bible. It appears to be far from correct.