why dont you christians like mormons

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Hi folks,

I do not hate anyone. I do not hate Mormons. I have a question about Mormons. I have felt very discriminated here in Utah (by Mormons). I've tried very hard to make friends. I don't understand why Mormons hate Baptists. I don't feel HATE belongs anywhere in Christianity. Do Mormons consider themselves to be Christians? I've been told that they do. If this is the case, why do they hate me. I DEFINITELY don't hate them.
 
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Christianinutah said:
Hi folks,

I do not hate anyone. I do not hate Mormons. I have a question about Mormons. I have felt very discriminated here in Utah (by Mormons). I've tried very hard to make friends. I don't understand why Mormons hate Baptists. I don't feel HATE belongs anywhere in Christianity. Do Mormons consider themselves to be Christians? I've been told that they do. If this is the case, why do they hate me. I DEFINITELY don't hate them.

And vice-versa! Odd isn't it? In New York, around where I am, Baptists seem to just loath Mormons. I don't hate anyone, bu heaven forbid you mention that you are a Mormon to them-you'll get the cold choulder. To my understanding, many members of the Church in Utah fell a little arogant, and snobbish, surrounded as they are by members of the same church. They let their pride get to them a little too much. Sorry you are on the brunt end of it. I also think that there is something that just get both churches here (mormon, baptist) angry at each other. Both seem to single the other out, it seems. The baptists had a convention in SLC that was based soely on how to convert mormons from the evil that entrapts them.

I don't know the true reason for their discrimination to you, but we do consider ourselves Christian. Just try to set an example for them, and I hope that you make some friends with them.(there's got to be some non-discriminating out there :) ) Good luck.

God Bless,
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I do not hate Mormons.

I think Joseph Smith was a nutcase and I really don't like the fact that the Mormon Church claims to be Christian.

I find some of their beliefs to be odd, but most people think that of religions other than their own.
 
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emerald Dragon said:
And vice-versa! Odd isn't it? In New York, around where I am, Baptists seem to just loath Mormons. I don't hate anyone, bu heaven forbid you mention that you are a Mormon to them-you'll get the cold choulder. To my understanding, many members of the Church in Utah fell a little arogant, and snobbish, surrounded as they are by members of the same church. They let their pride get to them a little too much. Sorry you are on the brunt end of it. I also think that there is something that just get both churches here (mormon, baptist) angry at each other. Both seem to single the other out, it seems. The baptists had a convention in SLC that was based soely on how to convert mormons from the evil that entrapts them.

I don't know the true reason for their discrimination to you, but we do consider ourselves Christian. Just try to set an example for them, and I hope that you make some friends with them.(there's got to be some non-discriminating out there :) ) Good luck.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

Wow Emerald Dragon
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I can't tell you how much your post meant to me. Thank you so much for your kind words. You know, when I was living in Louisiana, I saw some discrimination towards LDS people. My husband and I spent a few weeks discussing the Mormon philosophy with a couple of Elders who were on missions. They were so nice! That was our first experience with Mormons. At that time my husband and I both were appalled at how anyone could have any kind of problem with Mormon people.

We've had an awful time in Utah; but it's nice to know that all Mormons DON'T hate me!

PS: Your responce was very Christ-like.
GOD BLESS YOU! :amen:
 
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The one Mormon I know in real life and I have a very friendly relationship.

I can't say I like the religion at all, though.

No matter how bizarre someone's religion might be to our eyes, we're all people, and if some little effort is put on just being nice great relationships can be formed in spite of all differences.
 
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The one Mormon I know in real life and I have a very friendly relationship.

I can't say I like the religion at all, though.

No matter how bizarre someone's religion might be to our eyes, we're all people, and if some little effort is put on just being nice great relationships can be formed in spite of all differences.

I agree with you! :clap: Jesus was genntle, loving and kind to all people. Remember the greatest commandment of all is LOVE. :)
 
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Thanks Christianinutah! I appreciate that you said that my response was very Christ-like. I'm glad that my response made you happy. I feel happy now.

I just wish people could see that we are Chirstians. Our beliefs and practices may be odd, but we still follow the bible-all of it, adn we worship Chirst-the one that is God's Son, and died on the cross. I personally know that I am a Christian, and yet I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I personally feel that all of you are Christian as well, and God's Children. You spread His word, and God wants us to do that. Thanks again.

God Bless,
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This Is Someone I Had A Debate With Some Mormoms
Let Me Began By Saying Don't Believe Me ReSearch This InFormation For YourSelf , KnowIng That The Mormons And Going Try To Deny This , Go On Line And Get The Mormon Bible ..Click here: Book of Mormon Bible Also Check This Out Click here: Mormon Endowment and Masonry ..At AnyTime They Use Any Verse Go On Line Look It Up In There Mormons Bible Then See How It Compare To The True Wors Of God / Bible , Or That Of A Man Name joseph fielding smith ...This Spirit Child Elevated To Be Amongst The Deities . A Council Meeting Was Held To Decide About The Destiny Of The Devil And His Evil Advocates . A Plan Was Presented To Go To Earth And Rebuild And Then To Send The Evil Spirit Children To Live And Take On Mortal Bodies And To Learn Good From Bad To Alter Their Nature For Good , The Devil Put In His Bid As Savior Of Earth . The Was One Deity That Stoop Up Against Them And Said , '' Why Not Give Them Freedom Of Choice As Other Beings ? '' The Devil Convinced Many Of The Spirit Children That Were Destined To Go To Earth , To Revolt . Now Those Who Stayed Neutral In Decision , Whether To Go To Revolt With The Devil Or Stay With The Other Deities , Were Cursed With Black Skin . This Is One Of The Ways They They Say Nubians/ Black People Came About . In Their Old Teachings They Say Nubians / Blacks Were From The Cures Of Canaan . In Both Cases There's Obviously Racism And It Is Beyound Me , How Any African American Could Belong To This Organization The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints , As They Presently Call Themselves , Which Was Founded On April 6 , 1830 A.D. By Joseph Fielding Smith . The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints Are Putting Commercials On Television In Order To Deceive People Into Thinking They Are Just An Ordinary Christian Group When They Have Their Own Bible By Their Own Self - Proclaimed Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith Who Was Born December 23 ; 1805 A.D. In Sharon , Vermont . He Was Also A Mason Click here: Mormon Endowment and Masonry
According To Their Book Called The Book Of Mormon . Page 66 , Verse 21 - 25 It
Click here: Book of Mormon 2Nephi 5 ; 21 - 25 <> And He Had Caused The Cursing To Come Upon Them , Yea , Even A Sore Cursing , Because Of Their Iniquity For Behold , They Had Hardened Their Hearts Against Him , That They Had Become Like Unto A Flint ; Wherefore , As They Were White , And Exceeding Fair And Delightsome , That They Might Be Enticing Unto My People The Lord God Did Cause A Skin Of Blackness To Come Upon Them , And Thus Saith The Lord God ; I Will Cause That They Shall Be Loathsome Unto Thy People , Save They Shall Repent Of Their Iniquites , And Cursed Shall Be The Seed Of Him That Mixeth With Their Seed ; For They Shall Be Cursed Even With The Same Cursing . And The Lord Spake It . And It Was Done . And Because Of Their Cursing Which Was Upon Them They Did Become An Idle People . Full Of Mischief And Subtlety . And Did Seek In The Wilderness For Beasts Of Prey . And The Lord God Said Unto Me ; They Shall Be A Scourge Unto Thy Seed . To Stir Them Up In Remember Of Me ; And In As Much As They Will Not Remember Me . And Hearken Unto My Works , They Shall Scourge Them Even Unto Destruction .
In The Same Book It State And I Quote ; And The Skins Of The Lamanites Were Dark , According To The Mark Which Was Set Upon Their Fathers. Which Was A Curse Upon Them Because Of Their Transgression And Their Rebellion Against Their Breathren . Who Consisted Of Nephi , Jacob , And Joseph , And Sam , Who Were Just And Holy Men . And Their Brethren Sought To Destroy Them , Therefore They Were Cursed ; And The Lord God Might Preserve His People . That They Might Not Mix And Believe In Incorrect Tradition Which Would Prove Their Destruction . And It Came To Pass That WhoSoEver Did Mingle His Seed With That Of The Lamanites Did Bring The Same Curse Upon His Seed '' .
This Is Just Two Examples Of The Racism Being Taught By The Mormons . We're Not Supposed To See That The Name That They Are Using For Negros Is Lamanites , Which Is A Phonetic Derivative Of The Word Lamentation Meaning '' Wailing , To Move Slow , Or Elegy - A Poem Recited Over The Dead . '' All This Is In Their Book Entitled The Book Of Mormom . They Are Simply Saying That To Have '' Black '' Skin Is A Curse Placed On Them By The '' Lord God ''. First Of All , If They Are Saying That This Is A Divine Revelation . Then Their God Would Know That Nobody On The Planet Is White And Nobody Is Black . People Are Varying From Pink , To Cream , To Beige , To Yellow , To Red . To Brown , To Olive , And Various Complexions But No One Is Actually Black . Their God Should Have Known That , Thus , It Wouldn't Have Been Inside Their Holy Scripture . They Could Have Said , As The Bible Used , Ham , Cush Or Mizraim Or Phut And A List Of Other Names That Directly Apply To Darker Skinned People Or Simply Kedar . And What Is Sad Is That Negroids From Around The World Everyday Are Joining Them , Not Even Knowing That They Are Considered By Them Filthy , Loathsome Beings .
Their Teaching Are Just Plain Ridiculous And They Have No Proof To Back It Up Other Than A Story Saying That These Teaching Were Given To Their Founder Joseph Fielding Smith By An Angel Name Moroni , The Son Of Mormon . When Doing ReSearch On The Name Mormon Itself . You Will Find That Mormon Is A German Word Mormo Meaning '' Bugbear , A Secptre , A Hobgoblin , A Ghoul . A Gargoyle , A Spook , An Ogre . ''
According To The Mormons , Joseph F . Smith , Was Inspired By God , The Father And Jesus Christ Who Appeared To Him Near < Palmyra , New York In 1820 A.D. > They Told Him Not To Join Any Existing Church And To Prepare For An Important Task . Joseph F . Smith Also Said That An Angel By The Name Of '' Moroni '' Who Was Considered The '' Last Nephilian , '' Visited Him Three Years Later On September 21 ; 1823 A.D. And Told Him About [ Golden Plates ] On Which The History Of Early People Of The Western Hemisphere Was Engraved In An Ancient Language . Joseph F . Smith Found Those Plates In 1827 A.D. On A Hill Near Palmyra Called Cumorah . Joseph Smith Was Able To Translate These Plates And He Called It [ The Book Of Mormon Which Was Published In 1830 A.D. Why Isn't The Picture Of The Tablets In Their Book [ The Book Of Mormon ] Instead Of A Cuneiform Tablet From Persia ? Why Haven't The Mormons Been Learning The Ancient Language That Joseph Smith Obviously Knew In Order To Translate These Mystical Tablets ? And Why Do The Mormons Use The King James Version Of The Bible . And Clearly State In [ The Pillars Of Mormonism By Douglas V. Pond On Page 23 And I Quote < '' The Book Of Mormon Is Not The Mormon Bible As Is Sometimes Supposed . It Is One Of The Complimentary Works That . The Mormon Accepts As Scriptures . The Mormons Do Not Believe That The Reavelation Of God Were Confined To Ancient Israel . He Does Not Believe That The Loving Father Would Restrict His Communications To One Part Of His Family To One Time Of History Or To One Land . This Same Man Then Can Turn It Around And Say That This Loving God Does Restreict His Grace To One Race . Namely The Canaanite , This Is Simply A Canaanite Trying To Find A Place In The IsraeliteHistory , Not Satisfied With His Findings Created His Own Interpretation To Give The Anglo Saxon Protestants A Place In The Hebrew Heaven . [ Why Then Do They Use Greek Expressions Like Church , Christ , Christian , God , And Steal Names From The Bible Such As Jacob And Use The Word Jew And Abraham And Isaac And Many More Biblical Names ? Yet They Openly Admit , As You Just Read . That They Don't Accept What The Bible Say About What Yashua Says In Matthew 15 ; 24 , And I
Quote ; '' But He Answered And Said , I Am Not Sent But Unto The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel , '' Now Look At Matthew 10 ; 5 - 6 And I Quote ; These Twelve Jesus Sent Forth And Commanded Them Saying , Go Not Into The Way Of The Genitles And Into Any City Of The Samaritans Enter Ye Not , But Go Rather To The Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel .
Then Again Jesus Makes The Statement In Matthew 15 ; 24 , Above From The Book Pillars Of Mormonism Click here: Mormonism /Click here: Occultic, Magic and Masonic Influence in Early Mormonism/Click here: Q & A: Is Mormonism the same as Christianity? Pillars Of Mormonism About The Book Of The Mormon , He Openly Confesses That He Is Not An Israelite , Making Him According To The Bible , A Gentile . And The Bible Clearly States That Jesus Was Of The Seed Of David . The King Of Israel In John 7 ; 42 And I Quote ; Hath Not The Scripture Said That Christ Cometh Of The Seed Of David And Out Of The Town Of Bethlehem Where David Was ? So He Openly Admits To The Christian World That He Goes Against The Laws And Words And Commandments Of Jesus And Makes His Own Story Up To Try To Justify Gentiles Being Accepted . And They Call Their Book The Book Of Mormon Another Testament Of Jesus Christ . And In The Title Page It Reads '' The Book Of Mormon An Account Written By The Hand Of Mormon Upon Plates Taken From The Plates Of Nephi . ''' Beneath That It '' ... Wherefore It Is An Abridgement Of The Record Of The People Of Nephi '' And Also '' Of The Lamanites - Written To The Lamanites Who Are A Remnant Of The House Of Israel ; And Also The Jews And The Gentiles ... Then On Page 199 Of The Same Book Under Lamanite It Reads '' Descendants Of Laman '' Who They Say Is The Eldest Son Of Lehi . They Later Say '' Laman , Any Person Who Rejects The Gospel ( See Also Ammon , People Of Lamanitish ) On Page 206 Of The Same Book Under Lehi - Hebrew Prophet Who Lead His Followers To The Promise Land In Western Hemisphere . Lehi Son Of Zoram . Then In The Book The Book Of Mormon I Quote '' And Their Brethren Sought To Destroy Them , Therefore They Were Cursed ; And The Lord God Set A Mark Upon Them . Yea , Upon Laman And Lemuel ., And Also The Sons Of Ishmael And Ishmaelitish Women . ''' Now Look .... '' And The Skins Of The Lamanites Were Dark According To The Mark Which Was Set Upon Their Fathers, Which Was A Curse Upon Them Because Of Their Transgression And Rebellion Against Their Brethren , Who Consisted Of Nephi , Jacob , And Joseph And Sam Who Were Just And Holy Men . ( So Here He Tells You That The Darker People Are The Children Of Israel And That Lehi Was A Peophet Of The Hebrews , So He Has The Black As The Original Hebrews , And Himself As Not A Hebrew Or Israelite . He Would Be Classified As A Gentile , And According To Galatians 2 ; 15 And I Quote '' We [ Who Are ] Jews By Nature And Not Sinners Of The Gentiles '' So Of Course He Would [ Claim Anybody Who Is Not A Mormon Is A Gentile ... And Totally Ignoring The Bible And The Teaching Of Christ Jesus Who They Say Imspired Them ] The Contrsdictions And Mistakes Go On And On . Finally We Add From The Book Of Mormon Chapter 3 verse 8 - 9 '' O My Brethren , I Fear That Unless Ye Shall Repent Of Your Sins That Their Skins Will Be Whiter That Yours , When Ye Shall Be Brought With Them Before The Throne Of God . Wherefore , A Commandment I Give Unto You , Which Is The Wor Of God . That Ye Revile No More Against The Because Of The Darkness Of Their Skins ; Neither Shall Ye Revile Against Them Because Of Their Filthiness . And Remember That Their Filthiness Came Because Of Their Fathers ''
( This Is Sheer Racism , Not To Mention What Would Would Be Called Anti - Semetism . HowEver , When It Comes Down To Women Joseph Smith And His Bother , Hyurm Accept The Muslem Concept Of Polygany . That Is They Believe They Can Have More Than One Wife . And In Fact , Both He And His Brother , Hyrum , Was Arrested And Taken To Carthage , The County Seat For Engaging In Polygamy . And Eventually Joseph Smith And His Brother Were Shot To Death June 27 , 1844 A.D. By His Own Followers , The Mormoms After He Attempted To Run For President . ) Now After His Death , In The Year 1978 A.D. In Order To Attract Blacks , The Mormons Claim They Got A New Revelation From God Telling Them To Include Blacks Saying That They Had Been Instructed By Revelation To Strike Down The Churches Former Policy Of Excluding Black Men From The Priesthood . Thus Ends The Story Of This Ridiculous Cult And Their Ridiculous Belief ,





 
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Uh-sorry, but could you clarify exactly what you are trying to say? It's quite confusing to understand-try adding correct punctuation and spaces. I'm guessing you didn't intend to make that confusing. I am not trying to be rude, but please clarify. Thanks.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon
 
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