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Please explain, in simple terms: what do you think is an "adaption"? What is a "mutation"? How does it influence the individuum, and how does it influence "future generations"?Put another way: multiple mutations pointing to adapting first, do not need to be adapted.
For a while - an admittedly long while - it was funny. But by now, this spiel gets very old.
Gottservant comes in, posting the analogy of "If 2+2 equals 1, why can't I have it equal 6?"
People start to explain very simple, very fundamental maths to him.
Gottservant doesn't listen and goes on to say "No, I don't think so. You are wrong, because God! Why can't 2+2 be purple? I think God can make it purple!"
He hasn't listened to anything people have been telling him for years now. He won't start listening now.
It's useless.
Please explain, in simple terms: what do you think is an "adaption"? What is a "mutation"? How does it influence the individuum, and how does it influence "future generations"?
I take a spiritual position, partly because I am always looking for ways to expand my interpretation of the words of Jesus (I don't like being told a particular dogma, is impervious or more important, than my desire to learn from that).
What I don't want, is for the science to "fail" - the possibility of interpreting adaptation differently, is part of my effort to keep the science flourishing.
The science not failing, then, requires you to expand your dogma to accomodate, positive and negative experiments with the fundamental concept (a fundamentality that you unfortunately but understandingly want to protect).
What annoys me is placing the contrast in plain sight, you still seem to believe you are more invincible than that?
It's not wrong to insist on one interpretation over another, but only if you reserve expectation for something more than expression (in theory or otherwise) - I mean you literally can not remove the unknown from your theory and still retain the same credibility.
An adaptation is a successful use of instinct or essence, in principle.
A mutation is a corruption of the genetic code.
The claim is that when there is a corruption of genetic code, instinct and essence no longer work predictably.
This (claim) is in direction contradiction to the fact that God is able to wait for someone, until there genetic code is restored.
I don't miss out on an adaptation, simply because I do or do not mutate.
Taking a spiritual position on a biological question is stupid.
Adaptations happen because of mutations.
It's these sort of comments that show to people that you don't care about what you've been told. You've been told what an adaptation is, you've been told what a mutation is, but you just ignore what is said.
Freodin is right. It's getting old and ridiculous now and to be honest, people are much more likely to call you a troll now.
I don't understand why you don't understand, that my God is not afraid of being called a troll.
You don't seem to grasp that you cannot disavow Creation, simply because of whatever exception it is, being proof to you that your children being senseless will not disappoint you (if you believe in Evolution the wrong way)?
You seem to be saying you don't need advice on how to implement your obligation to Evolution to be efficient - that reeks of hubris!
You misunderstand me. I take a spiritual position as pertains to me, but I dislocate this fact in order to be objective about the determination of the biological science (of Evolution) - as a layman desiring principle, would understand.
Happening does not require mutation, to be design.
A difference in conductivity does enough to light up our minds with thoughts: you notion that we can't choose between those thoughts, does not bear out reality.
Right now I have a choice of emphasising "happening" not requiring mutations, or thoughts being distinguished. If I made that choice consistent, it is likely that my children would turn out differently.
I don't understand why you don't understand, that my God is not afraid of being called a troll.
You don't seem to grasp that you cannot disavow Creation, simply because of whatever exception it is, being proof to you that your children being senseless will not disappoint you (if you believe in Evolution the wrong way)?
You seem to be saying you don't need advice on how to implement your obligation to Evolution to be efficient - that reeks of hubris!
There are two forms of adaptation, physiological and evolutionary.
"...people are much more likely to call YOU a troll now."
Why are you even taking a spiritual position on a biological question to begin with? Why does a question about biology threaten your spirituality?
Again: adaptations happen because of mutations. You can try and waffle and BS as much as you want, but that does not change the fact that you are wrong and don't know what you're talking about.
No such pressure exists because it doesn't make sense.What selection pressure, requires you to mutate first?
If there is no selection pressure, why can't I rest first?
Which is better: a rested adaptation, or an adaptation of necessity?
You have introduced the notion of "threat" - that was not my intention.
The fear of mutation, is not enough (to justify adaptation)?
The way I see it, you want the batters on the field before the fielders.
Again, I am not trying to say you can't do things another way - but at some point you have to realise, sharing the ecology does not come down to wiping parts of it out (for the sake of the fittest?).
Just be happy to admit that your instinct is different than mine, that's all I'm saying.
No. That is not what evolutionists are talking about - it's nonsense.What you are talking about as Evolutionists, is grafting - the idea that a creature having the adaptations of a particular species other than his own, will ultimately want to be that species.
What mechanism allows for adaptation w/o a mutation?What selection pressure, requires you to mutate first?
If there is no selection pressure, why can't I rest first?
Which is better: a rested adaptation, or an adaptation of necessity?
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