Why don't protestants bless Mary?

[Fireinfolding]

You are in denial. Rosaries.

There ya go break out the beads

 

[JLB777]

It is not idolatry to see the Mother of God as the highest of all creatures, and far holier than all the rest of creation.

No it's not.

But it's blasphemy and idolatry to think that Mary is the mother of God.



JLB

 

[JLB777]

Exactly, its Mary is that woman in Revelation but as you know (even as I have been on posts with them with you) the whole no pain ordeal, so which is it? Scripture or the Big T tradition again?

(Yadda yadda, yadda) there is likely something written in there to catch that oopsy too.

Then the "Immaculate foot" on the serpent, via the garden when the God of peace would bruise Satan under YOUR feet (shortly) not Mary's years earlier. It is like kicking the same dead horse over and over again though, I hate myself for returning to it when I do.

Gotta stop it.

Please show the scripture where you think Mary is mentioned in Revelation.



JLB

 

[Fireinfolding]

Please show the scripture where you think Mary is mentioned in Revelation.



JLB

Are you even following the thread?

 

[Aldebaran]

I heard you say that Rev 12 doesn't fit with Mary. I asked, "how so?". I'm not hearing an answer.

As far as Mary being "worshipped"... who here is arguing that we should worship the Mother of God, a creature?

If Mary was the mother of God, then how is it that God existed long before Mary ever did? You even call her a creature, meaning God created her. Mary was simply the vessel used by God as the means of becoming human. So please stop worshipping the creature, and only worship the creator.

 

[Aldebaran]

You are in denial. Rosaries.

I'd like to know where Rosaries were ever mentioned in God's word.

 

[Panevino]

If Mary was the mother of God, then how is it that God existed long before Mary ever did? You even call her a creature, meaning God created her. Mary was simply the vessel used by God as the means of becoming human. So please stop worshipping the creature, and only worship the creator.

Strawman definition of "mother of God" look it up
The title is focused on the divinity of Jesus ...that's the point
It does so confidently , without worrying about people mistakenly misunderstanding

 

[Panevino]

Are you even following the thread?

 

[Aldebaran]

Strawman definition of "mother of God" look it up
The title is focused on the divinity of Jesus ...that's the point
It does so confidently , without worrying about people mistakenly misunderstanding

How is that a strawman definition? People are calling Mary God's mother because she gave birth to Jesus, correct?

 

[Panevino]

How is that a strawman definition? People are calling Mary God's mother because she gave birth to Jesus, correct?

You raised concern about God existing before Mary, that's the strawman. In other words know one is saying that He didn't or that Mary was around before time. apologies if it came across rude.
Yes to the 2nd part of your question.

 

[Panevino]

No it's not.

But it's blasphemy and idolatry to think that Mary is the mother of God.



JLB

No it's not.
Jesus is God incarnate and Mary conceived, carried, gave birth to Him and raised him etc...

 

[Aldebaran]

You raised concern about God existing before Mary, that's the strawman. In other words know one is saying that He didn't or that Mary was around before time. apologies if it came across rude.

I was showing the absurdity of the idea. Just because the answer is obvious doesn't mean it's a strawman argument.

Yes to the 2nd part of your question.

If that's the case, then why do none of the apostles say anything about praying to Mary? All they talk about is putting our faith in Christ and allowing Him to live through us. They talk about us having eternal life through Him. Why weren't they saying all this about Mary if she's so important to us?

 

[Fireinfolding]

God needed to learn obedience, and Mary was the one who could really do the job for him.

 

[Panevino]

I was showing the absurdity of the idea. Just because the answer is obvious doesn't mean it's a strawman argument.

It's a strawman because your presenting a view that is not accurate and then stressing how absurd it is.
The title mother of God
Is used to refer to the birth of Jesus who is God
That's what the title is used to demonstrate

...They talk about us having eternal life through Him. Why weren't they saying all this about Mary if she's so important to us?

Another strawman here

 

[Fireinfolding]

Elizabeth called her the mother of MY Lord. Jesus points out that David by the Holy Ghost said, the LORD saith unto MY Lord sit thou at my right hand, David calling him My Lord (Christ, the Son of God).

God was in Christ, through whom he went about doing good, since of himself he could do nothing.

 

[JLB777]

No it's not.
Jesus is God incarnate and Mary conceived, carried, gave birth to Him and raised him etc...

Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is the Man, who became flesh, as the bible says He was made a little lower than the angels.

The Son of Man is the term used to descibed Him as Adam.s son, thus making Him a legitimate Man that is able to take away the sin of the world.

Sin entered the human race through Adam, a human being.

Sin had to legally be removed from the human race through a man.

That Man is Jesus Christ.


Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

Before He became flesh, He is the Lord God, YHWH, who was God long before the world was ever formed, and certainly long before Mary was born.


I hope you understand the difference.



JLB

 

[Panevino]

Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is the Man, who became flesh, as the bible says He was made a little lower than the angels.

The Son of Man is the term used to descibed Him as Adam.s son, thus making Him a legitimate Man that is able to take away the sin of the world.

Sin entered the human race through Adam, a human being.

Sin had to legally be removed from the human race through a man.

That Man is Jesus Christ.


Mary gave birth to the Man, Jesus Christ.

I know what your trying to say but disagree
See isa7:14
God with us

Before He became flesh, He is the Lord God, YHWH, who was God long before the world was ever formed, and certainly long before Mary was born.

Title does not deny this
Properly understood that is

 

[Fireinfolding]

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

2Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,

As he said,

John 8:16 ...I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

 

[Panevino]

You guys seem to be arguing against something I'm not stating
Marys motherhood of God is only related to her role at conception and birth etc
God entered the world in a unique/tangible way through her, and the divinity of the child (let's say in what ever way your comfortable with) is the point of the title and that's it.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I certainly dont argue against the fact that God made her by Jesus Christ and that God sent His Son made of a woman made under the law, by which fact she is made mother of our Lord Jesus Christ according to the flesh.