Sinners are the enemies of god whom he still loves enough to die for. However, he does not always listen because they do not listen to him.
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Why doesn't prayer work?
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Sinners are the enemies of god whom he still loves enough to die for. However, he does not always listen because they do not listen to him.
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I am sorry, I was giving advice. The badgers tend to persecute others whether right or wrong.
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For example, if you pray for the homeless people you see in your town and nothing good happens to them then what should one do? Did you fail praying?
Another example, If you see a now hiring sign and you apply and pray for the job and you don't get it then was your prayer a failure?
I sometimes wonder if people prayed for good in their lives or good for others, then why does the prayer go unanswered?
Another example, If you see a now hiring sign and you apply and pray for the job and you don't get it then was your prayer a failure?
I sometimes wonder if people prayed for good in their lives or good for others, then why does the prayer go unanswered?
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Because God knows better than we do. What we think is good, and beneficial to people, God may have other better plans.
If God answered every prayer, of every person, then things would really get out of control. Just because -we- think something is good or the best for us or someone else doesn't mean it actually is. This is why God is in control and we are not. Because we would continually mess everything up.
Instead of praying for a specific job, pray for the one that God wants you to find. Just because that particular job didn't work out, doesn't mean God won't help you find a job. Perhaps it just means that one wasn't a good one.
Also God is infinately more patient than we are. Some prayers aren't answered for a long time if He does decide to answer them. God considers our years on earth but a blink of time. While we consider things in terms of years. So if you pray for the homeless people, perhaps you don't see a result now, but what about in a few years? 10 years? What if those prayers are answered then? But you don't see it, does that mean the prayer wasn't answered?
If God answered every prayer, of every person, then things would really get out of control. Just because -we- think something is good or the best for us or someone else doesn't mean it actually is. This is why God is in control and we are not. Because we would continually mess everything up.
Instead of praying for a specific job, pray for the one that God wants you to find. Just because that particular job didn't work out, doesn't mean God won't help you find a job. Perhaps it just means that one wasn't a good one.
Also God is infinately more patient than we are. Some prayers aren't answered for a long time if He does decide to answer them. God considers our years on earth but a blink of time. While we consider things in terms of years. So if you pray for the homeless people, perhaps you don't see a result now, but what about in a few years? 10 years? What if those prayers are answered then? But you don't see it, does that mean the prayer wasn't answered?
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The prayers of a sinner can be detestable to God. The prayers of a sinner can be like dung while the prayers of the righteous like offerings of incense. One must believe - in - Jesus to have a effective prayer. You need both faith and works. Stop sinning. The bible says something like God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who pleases him.
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REPHAIAHPEDAHEL
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Mark 2:15-17 NKJV
Now it happened, as He was dining in Levi's house, that many tax collectors and sinners also sat together with Jesus and His disciples; for there were many, and they followed Him. [16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw Him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, they said to His disciples, "How is it that He eats and drinks with tax collectors and sinners?" [17] When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
Now it happened, as He was dining in Levi's house, that many tax collectors and sinners also sat together with Jesus and His disciples; for there were many, and they followed Him. [16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw Him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, they said to His disciples, "How is it that He eats and drinks with tax collectors and sinners?" [17] When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
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If you don't believe be then pray. He said ask anything within his will and his CHILDREN will receive it. I am serious...a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Who can work at night? A sinner is hostile to God. Do not cast pearls to pigs or what is sacred to dogs.
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Psalm 66:20 - Praise be to God, who has not rejected my prayer or withheld his love from me!
Psalm 34:15-16 - The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,
and his ears are attentive to their cry; but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth.
Psalm 66:18 - [bless and do not curse]If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;
Proverbs 15:29 - The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.
Isaiah 59:1-2 - Surely the arm of the Lord is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. - james 5:16
"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
"Even when I call out or cry for help, he shuts out my prayer." Lamentations 3:8
Lamentations 3:41-44 - [bless and do not curse]Let us lift up our hearts and our hands to God in heaven, and say: [bless and do not curse]“We have sinned and rebelled and you have not forgiven.[bless and do not curse]“You have covered yourself with anger and pursued us; you have slain without pity. You have covered yourself with a cloud so that no prayer can get through.
Zechariah 7:11-13 - “But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and covered their ears. They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the LORD Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the LORD Almighty was very angry.”‘When I called, they did not listen; so when they called, I would not listen,’ says the LORD Almighty.
John 9:31-33 - We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will. Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.”
Jeremiah 11:10-11 - They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors.[bless and do not curse]Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘I will bring on them a disaster they cannot escape. Although they cry out to me, I will not listen to them.
“For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” - 1 Peter 3:12
"Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him." 1 John 3:21-22
"During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission." Hebrews 5:7
Psalm 34:15-16 - The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,
and his ears are attentive to their cry; but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth.
Psalm 66:18 - [bless and do not curse]If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;
Proverbs 15:29 - The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous.
Isaiah 59:1-2 - Surely the arm of the Lord is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. - james 5:16
"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
"Even when I call out or cry for help, he shuts out my prayer." Lamentations 3:8
Lamentations 3:41-44 - [bless and do not curse]Let us lift up our hearts and our hands to God in heaven, and say: [bless and do not curse]“We have sinned and rebelled and you have not forgiven.[bless and do not curse]“You have covered yourself with anger and pursued us; you have slain without pity. You have covered yourself with a cloud so that no prayer can get through.
Zechariah 7:11-13 - “But they refused to pay attention; stubbornly they turned their backs and covered their ears. They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the LORD Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the LORD Almighty was very angry.”‘When I called, they did not listen; so when they called, I would not listen,’ says the LORD Almighty.
John 9:31-33 - We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will. Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.”
Jeremiah 11:10-11 - They have returned to the sins of their ancestors, who refused to listen to my words. They have followed other gods to serve them. Both Israel and Judah have broken the covenant I made with their ancestors.[bless and do not curse]Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘I will bring on them a disaster they cannot escape. Although they cry out to me, I will not listen to them.
“For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears are attentive to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” - 1 Peter 3:12
"Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him." 1 John 3:21-22
"During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission." Hebrews 5:7
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I can tell from what you typed that your prayers are from selfish motives.. Sounds like you don't know the God i worship.. He listens to the prayers of those in Christ and those in Christ are humble.. Not concerned with keeping up with peers..
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theophilus40
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Perhaps your problem is that you thinking of prayer as simply asking God for things you want. Do you spend time thanking God for the things he has given you? How much time do you spend praising and worshipping him? It might be helpful to spend some time studying the prayers found in the Bible. Here is one example:
Many of the psalms are prayers to God. If you read some of them it might show you ways to pray more effectively.
And when they heard it, they lifted their voices together to God and said, Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them, who through the mouth of our father David, your servant, said by the Holy Spirit,
Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together,
against the Lord and against his Anointed
for truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place. And now, Lord, look upon their threats and grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness, while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus.
(Acts 4:24-30 ESV)
Only the last sentence of the prayer consisted of actually asking God for something and even then they were asking for things that would enable them to serve him better.Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together,
against the Lord and against his Anointed
for truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place. And now, Lord, look upon their threats and grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness, while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus.
(Acts 4:24-30 ESV)
Many of the psalms are prayers to God. If you read some of them it might show you ways to pray more effectively.
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Many don't seem to know what it means to be - in - christ. To believe - in - christ to be saved one must be in christ. Who are those in christ? 1 john 3:24, most do not have the spirit. Acts 5:32, the spirit is given to those who have undergone repentance and repented of works that lead to death. How can you obey God and do those sins at the same time? Water, spirit, fire. Once you have the spirit the refiners fire may make you perfect. The book of Job may help explain. Sifting of the devil. New wine is poured into new wine skins..
Will god adopt a son of satan?
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I don't know that adopt is the word I would use. They're both his creations, and if SON is the word you choose for God (heavenly father's) creations of a spiritual capacity, then they are both already his.
Are you asking-What is the acceptable limit to God's tolerance before he disowns his Children and turns his back to them?
Once a child turns their back to the lord, is it not justified for Him to do the same?
Is that the question you are asking?
What is wrong with God letting you suffer if it is your choice to do so?
Hmmm....It would be an interesting question if that were the one you are asking.
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Prosper4Him
Jesus, is my final answer!
The apostle Paul was a man who could have concluded that God doesn't listen to people. After all, he urgently pleaded with God to intervene for him in a chronic trial. But God refused to grant Paul's request. Does this mean Paul lacked faith? Of course not. However, there is a deeper lesson for us in Paul's life of living faith.
When Paul pleaded with God
Notice Paul's account of this trial: "There was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me" (2 Corinthians 12:7-8, New International Version).
What was this trial that tormented Paul?
Comments in Paul's writings hint it may have been a problem with his eyes (Galatians 4:13-15; 6:11). The implication is that Paul fervently asked God to deliver him from the trial, no doubt with fasting and heartfelt prayer (2 Corinthians 11:27). He wanted this hindrance removed so he could continue to spread the gospel effectively and care for the congregations God had raised up.
God's answer to Paul
Paul could have concluded that God had not heard his pleas. But this is not the case. God simply gave Paul a different answer: "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness" (2 Corinthians 12:9). Whether God directly spoke these words to Paul or whether Paul gradually came to this understanding of God's will isn't clear from the Greek wording. What is clear is that Paul came to a deeper spiritual understanding that strengthened his faith and commitment. Paul came to see that the credit belonged to God and Jesus Christ rather than to himself and that his weakness drew him closer to that source of power and strength. "I am therefore happy to boast of my weaknesses, because then the power of Christ will rest upon me. So I am content with a life of weakness, insult, hardship, persecution, and distress, all for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong" (verses 9-10, Revised English Bible). Of course, Paul's experiences were not typical of what most modern Christians experience today. Along with his great trials, he also witnessed great miracles and evidence of God's power. Still Paul's "thorn in the flesh" stands as an important spiritual lesson for us. Sometimes when we experience unanswered prayers, God's answer for us is actually "no" or "not yet." God never intended our physical bodies to last forever. He has allotted us an existence of about 70 years (Psalm 90:10). He is far more concerned that we develop righteous character and a trusting relationship with Him that can last for eternity. He wants to resurrect us to eternal life in a glorious, immortal spirit body not subject to weakness, illness and death (1 Corinthians 15:40-44)
(50-54).
In the meantime, Paul understood that God in His love will never allow us to fall into trials greater than we can endure. "But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it" (1 Corinthians 10:13, NIV). Sometimes that "way out" is simply the determination to endure the trial, to "stand up under it."
Hearing God's will
Paul was not the only one who learned that living, trusting, abiding faith is more important than physical health and long life. Even Jesus, knowing that He faced a cruel death only hours away, prayed, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me" (Matthew 26:39). Jesus loved life and wanted to live as much as any of us. But He acknowledged a greater purpose for this physical life: "Nevertheless, not My will, but Yours, be done" (Luke 22:42).
Jesus Christ, the perfect example of faith, knew God's will was more important that His. God knows what is best for us in the long run, even if it may conflict with our short-term wants and desires. As Peter tells us, "[cast] all your care upon Him, for He cares for you" (1 Peter 5:7). Paul says we should be "confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Philippians 1:6). Because God works within us from a broader perspective to build faith and character, He doesn't always answer our prayers in the way we desire.
Some were delivered, some not
The Bible tells us at times "women received their dead raised to life again." But "others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us" (Hebrews 11:35-40)
Even when we have unanswered prayers, know that God does listen. He does not always answer our prayers to our immediate satisfaction and instantly deliver us from our trials. But He will always do what is best for us.
When Paul pleaded with God
Notice Paul's account of this trial: "There was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me" (2 Corinthians 12:7-8, New International Version).
What was this trial that tormented Paul?
Comments in Paul's writings hint it may have been a problem with his eyes (Galatians 4:13-15; 6:11). The implication is that Paul fervently asked God to deliver him from the trial, no doubt with fasting and heartfelt prayer (2 Corinthians 11:27). He wanted this hindrance removed so he could continue to spread the gospel effectively and care for the congregations God had raised up.
God's answer to Paul
Paul could have concluded that God had not heard his pleas. But this is not the case. God simply gave Paul a different answer: "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness" (2 Corinthians 12:9). Whether God directly spoke these words to Paul or whether Paul gradually came to this understanding of God's will isn't clear from the Greek wording. What is clear is that Paul came to a deeper spiritual understanding that strengthened his faith and commitment. Paul came to see that the credit belonged to God and Jesus Christ rather than to himself and that his weakness drew him closer to that source of power and strength. "I am therefore happy to boast of my weaknesses, because then the power of Christ will rest upon me. So I am content with a life of weakness, insult, hardship, persecution, and distress, all for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong" (verses 9-10, Revised English Bible). Of course, Paul's experiences were not typical of what most modern Christians experience today. Along with his great trials, he also witnessed great miracles and evidence of God's power. Still Paul's "thorn in the flesh" stands as an important spiritual lesson for us. Sometimes when we experience unanswered prayers, God's answer for us is actually "no" or "not yet." God never intended our physical bodies to last forever. He has allotted us an existence of about 70 years (Psalm 90:10). He is far more concerned that we develop righteous character and a trusting relationship with Him that can last for eternity. He wants to resurrect us to eternal life in a glorious, immortal spirit body not subject to weakness, illness and death (1 Corinthians 15:40-44)
(50-54).
In the meantime, Paul understood that God in His love will never allow us to fall into trials greater than we can endure. "But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it" (1 Corinthians 10:13, NIV). Sometimes that "way out" is simply the determination to endure the trial, to "stand up under it."
Hearing God's will
Paul was not the only one who learned that living, trusting, abiding faith is more important than physical health and long life. Even Jesus, knowing that He faced a cruel death only hours away, prayed, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me" (Matthew 26:39). Jesus loved life and wanted to live as much as any of us. But He acknowledged a greater purpose for this physical life: "Nevertheless, not My will, but Yours, be done" (Luke 22:42).
Jesus Christ, the perfect example of faith, knew God's will was more important that His. God knows what is best for us in the long run, even if it may conflict with our short-term wants and desires. As Peter tells us, "[cast] all your care upon Him, for He cares for you" (1 Peter 5:7). Paul says we should be "confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Philippians 1:6). Because God works within us from a broader perspective to build faith and character, He doesn't always answer our prayers in the way we desire.
Some were delivered, some not
The Bible tells us at times "women received their dead raised to life again." But "others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us" (Hebrews 11:35-40)
Even when we have unanswered prayers, know that God does listen. He does not always answer our prayers to our immediate satisfaction and instantly deliver us from our trials. But He will always do what is best for us.
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Copy and pasted from my blog.
1 Corinthians 15:2 - By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
I am sorry to inform you that God has blinded those who are perishing and there are many among you. Do not give what is sacred to dogs nor cast pearls to pigs or they may trample on them attack you. This is war and there is only one god, its not satan, and you may just be surrounded by liars. | 2 Cori 3:14, 4:4, John 9:39, 41; 12:37-41; 2 Thess 2:10-12; Mat 7:6; 13:10-17; Eze 12:2; Mar 4:12; Lu 8:10; Rom 11:8; Isa 29:10; Pro 28:9; Rev 22:18 | We must believe in the full testimony god has given about his son. Anyone who believes in a lie is calling god a liar. Many shall hate me because Jesus has testified that the ways of the world is evil. Since he is the way, truth, and life, I shall do the same. | 1 John 5:1-12; Eph 4:20-24; 5:1; John 7:7; 13:15; 1 Cori11:1; Phil 3:17; 2 Thess 3:7; 1 Tim 4:12; Titus 2:7; 1 Pet 2:21 | Allow me to explain:
In the beginning god created man in his image but that man fell from the glory of god, as a result he was exiled from Eden. Therefore, all have sinned and fell short of the glory of god through one mans disobedience. A sinner is not created in the image of god. Is that not the image of satan? Well, Jesus was created and he is perfect. For everything seen was created by one unseen and one can clearly see Jesus. To see Jesus is to see the Father. As for god, I shall try to explain how I see the Most High God. The Most High God, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords; the Lord, of the heavens, earth, and sea. He is the only immortal and can never die. He is invisible, no one has ever seen our heavenly father, nor will anyone ever see him. The godhead is the father, son, and holy spirit which are one diety, different forms. I have come to believe that when the holy spirit of the invisible god fully dwells inside a image, of his choice, it could become the the voice of God in the world, the representative of the Father, a form we can see with our own eyes. I believe in the past, this image was not born of humanity. Perhaps a angel of the Lord? Some individuals saw a image, like the following people, adam, eve, abraham, moses, job, etc etc. I believe this could be Melchizedek, one of many names, who has no beginning or end. He simply was. However, the image born of the blessed virgin mary was born into the flesh, tempted by sin. The word was in the beginning, it was with god, it was god, and it entered into human flesh dwelling among us. God became a son of man. He was human but in very nature, God. Anyone who denies the Father as the Son, and the Son as the Father, is an anti-christ. Jesus shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Jesus is the head and the Lord of our Lord is our Father, that is, if you obey him. How can you call one Lord if you rebel against them? So, imagine a invisible god with many forms like a burning bush. He may have many names and forms, ask yourself this, why did the disciples not notice who jesus was,when he talked with them after his death? Why would he have to reveal himself? Who is in revelation if it is not the first and the last? I shall try to put this in a worldly point of view but its not the truth. Just something that may help one comprehend things. Imagine a programmer and the program. The programmer has complete control. Turn a video game on and create a character. Those inside the game will not see the one on the outside. Notice how he is his character yet he is not? He can make as many characters as he wants. He is the programer. He has a covenant with the sun and moon so that they may keep their appointed times. What else has a covenant? What are the laws of nature? Does a video game have any "laws?" Well, you have the creator and the creation. Its simple, we were created. He who was, is, and shall be, was not. He has power and dominion over all things. All things are under his control, even your heart. He may choose to harden your heart or soften it. He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy. Compassion on whom he will have compassion. He does as he pleases. He simply is, all things were created by him, for him, and through him, to whom is worthy of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy holy holy is the most high god! He does not change like shifting shadows. Why would perfection ever change? He is good and there is no darkness in him. Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect, spiritually perfect, be holy for he is holy. Without holiness no one shall see the lord. What glory did one fall from? Seek the face of God. You must be transformed into the image of Christ who is the image of god. Therefore, since we have fallen from the glory of god we must return. So, how can we return? We are saved by grace, through faith, which is dead, without works. | Ephesians 2:8; John 14:6; | Jesus died on the cross, therefore a man is justified by faith, apart from the works of the law. Justification is just that, justification. However, faith and works are both a requirement to be saved; See : I Peter 4:18; Ephesians 2:8; James 2:26; Romans 8:3-4. Works of the law is complete and total obedience to god. That could be anything he commands. Let his will be done, but this cannot save us for we have already sinned. The punishment for such criminal activity is death. Therefore we are already found guilty. That is why we are under grace for if we were under the law how would you have the ability to escape the death penalty from a just judge? He is waiting on us to change in order to give us a pardon from him, the King. We can stop sinning, but if we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. How can a criminal claim to have never committed a crime? Sin is transgressions against the law. We were born in sin, we have already broken the law. We are already criminals on death row. So how can we ever claim to have never commited a crime? Hence Christ had to condemn sin or we would be condemn to death. The verdict is lifted once you possess the gift of salvation. A pardon you can say. It cannot be earned. It is a gift from the judge to let one walk as long as they do as he commands. If you continue to commit crimes what is stopping the judge from giving you the death penalty? You will surely die! Faith is trusting in god, that he cannot lie. That the judge shall keep his word for he never changes. Perfection need not change. God has commanded us to keep the Royal Law which is the ten commandments summarized into two. We must keep all ten commandments. Not the law nailed to the cross in Ezekiel 20:25-26, the Leviticus Priesthood made nothing perfect. For he gave everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. Through that law we become conscience to sin, but it brings death. Please do not confuse the laws, dead or alive. However, Jesus can perfect us within the Melchizedek Priesthood for he is a High Priest forever. One can be like their teacher but not greater. The royal law has always been. It shall never change. Love god with all your mind, body, soul, and strength. Love your neighbor.There is one way, truth, and life. Jesus is the only way to the father. Be still and know that he is the one and only god! You are either with him or against him. Friend or foe, life or death, make your choice. Stop sinning or face the wrath of god. One can believe Jesus exist without believing- in - Jesus. To believe - in -Jesus, one must believe he exist and be - in -Jesus. Look for the wordplay. According to 1 John 3:24, to be - in - Jesus one must love god. To love god is to obey god, according to John 14:21-24. See, luke 3:21-22; Jesus was baptised and received the spirit as he prayed. He was already sinless so no need to repent. I assume he could of asked for the spirit. See: Acts 5:32; 1 John 3:24. So, we should know that a righteous mans prayer is powerful and effective. So those who obey God, those in-the-name, shall ask anything within his will and receive it. A sinners prayer is known to fail. So do as it tells you to do according to acts 2:38-39, repent of works that lead to death then be baptized in the name of jesus. How are you in jesus again? 1 john 3:24, says those who do as he commands. So this may explain why many people do things by saying in the name of jesus, only to see it fail. Its more than just words. You must be in jesus to do things in the name of jesus. Do you understand? Many do not have the spirit for they are lead by mere instincts. Many seem to have the baptism of the john the baptist. Not that of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If you are in a state of repentance that is not complete, you are in the baptism of John. The baptism of water. See: Acts 19:1-7. Finish you repentance of acts that lead to death. Once you are baptised by the holy spirit expect the baptism of fire. Have you read the book of Job? Sifting of the devil? The refiners fire? One is perfected through suffering. You must past the test. Pick up your cross, it can perfect you if you allow it to do so. Repent means to stop committing sins. You have been warned. Repent or perish. One must believe and be-in-Jesus, to believe-in-Jesus. Those who BELIEVE-IN-JESUS, are saved, born again, and a child of God. They know God, love him, and have seen him. Are you a disciple of john or a false disciple of christ? Maybe you are true? Are you a false brother or sister? As he appeared after his death to those who loved him he shall do the same today to those who love him. The world cannot see him or know him, nor the spirit. The pure in heart shall see Jesus. The world cannot see him but those called out of the world can. According to the verses I have provided below, can you honestly say you are adopted? Have you seen him? As for the spirit, how can you have the holy spirit if you have the spirit of a sinner? A spirit of falsehood? A sinner is not saved according to 1 Peter 4:18-19. God is a god of the living and not the dead. Therefore God is not a God of sinners. He seeks those who worship in spirit and truth but a sinner cannot do that. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit and shall eventually be cut down and cast into the fire for they have denied both the son and the father. Once it turns to ash what good is it? You cannot remain dead in your sins and expect god to be your friend. According to Romans 10:13, Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. To call one Lord you must submit and obey otherwise they are not your Lord. Why do some say Lord Lord and not do as he has commanded? | See: 1 John 1:1-3; 2:3-4, 27; 3:1-10; 4:6, 12-14; 5:18-19; 2 John 1:9; Romans 8:22-24; John 3:16-18; 6:46; 7:29, 39; 12:40; 14:7-18; 15:4-8, 26-27; 16:7,16; 20:19-22, 29; Acts 5:32; 10:40-43; 16:31; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 3:16, 8:3; 9:1; 15:3-8; Galatians 1:1, 12; 4:4-6; Ephesians 1:4-6; 3:2-5; 5:6; 2 Corinthians 4:3, 13:5; Hebrews 12:14; Matthew 5:8; 7:21; 11:27; Mark 16:11-14; Luke 24:31-35; Lamentations 3:25; Jeremiah 12:3; Isaiah 55:5-7; 64:3-5; Psalms 17:15; 27:4,6, 8; 105:4; Job 42:5; 1 Chronicles 16:10-11; 2 Chronicles 7:13-15; 2 Kings 6:16-18; 1 samuel 3:1,7,21; Judges 13:21-23; Deuteronomy 32:20
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1 Corinthians 15:2 - By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
I am sorry to inform you that God has blinded those who are perishing and there are many among you. Do not give what is sacred to dogs nor cast pearls to pigs or they may trample on them attack you. This is war and there is only one god, its not satan, and you may just be surrounded by liars. | 2 Cori 3:14, 4:4, John 9:39, 41; 12:37-41; 2 Thess 2:10-12; Mat 7:6; 13:10-17; Eze 12:2; Mar 4:12; Lu 8:10; Rom 11:8; Isa 29:10; Pro 28:9; Rev 22:18 | We must believe in the full testimony god has given about his son. Anyone who believes in a lie is calling god a liar. Many shall hate me because Jesus has testified that the ways of the world is evil. Since he is the way, truth, and life, I shall do the same. | 1 John 5:1-12; Eph 4:20-24; 5:1; John 7:7; 13:15; 1 Cori11:1; Phil 3:17; 2 Thess 3:7; 1 Tim 4:12; Titus 2:7; 1 Pet 2:21 | Allow me to explain:
In the beginning god created man in his image but that man fell from the glory of god, as a result he was exiled from Eden. Therefore, all have sinned and fell short of the glory of god through one mans disobedience. A sinner is not created in the image of god. Is that not the image of satan? Well, Jesus was created and he is perfect. For everything seen was created by one unseen and one can clearly see Jesus. To see Jesus is to see the Father. As for god, I shall try to explain how I see the Most High God. The Most High God, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords; the Lord, of the heavens, earth, and sea. He is the only immortal and can never die. He is invisible, no one has ever seen our heavenly father, nor will anyone ever see him. The godhead is the father, son, and holy spirit which are one diety, different forms. I have come to believe that when the holy spirit of the invisible god fully dwells inside a image, of his choice, it could become the the voice of God in the world, the representative of the Father, a form we can see with our own eyes. I believe in the past, this image was not born of humanity. Perhaps a angel of the Lord? Some individuals saw a image, like the following people, adam, eve, abraham, moses, job, etc etc. I believe this could be Melchizedek, one of many names, who has no beginning or end. He simply was. However, the image born of the blessed virgin mary was born into the flesh, tempted by sin. The word was in the beginning, it was with god, it was god, and it entered into human flesh dwelling among us. God became a son of man. He was human but in very nature, God. Anyone who denies the Father as the Son, and the Son as the Father, is an anti-christ. Jesus shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Jesus is the head and the Lord of our Lord is our Father, that is, if you obey him. How can you call one Lord if you rebel against them? So, imagine a invisible god with many forms like a burning bush. He may have many names and forms, ask yourself this, why did the disciples not notice who jesus was,when he talked with them after his death? Why would he have to reveal himself? Who is in revelation if it is not the first and the last? I shall try to put this in a worldly point of view but its not the truth. Just something that may help one comprehend things. Imagine a programmer and the program. The programmer has complete control. Turn a video game on and create a character. Those inside the game will not see the one on the outside. Notice how he is his character yet he is not? He can make as many characters as he wants. He is the programer. He has a covenant with the sun and moon so that they may keep their appointed times. What else has a covenant? What are the laws of nature? Does a video game have any "laws?" Well, you have the creator and the creation. Its simple, we were created. He who was, is, and shall be, was not. He has power and dominion over all things. All things are under his control, even your heart. He may choose to harden your heart or soften it. He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy. Compassion on whom he will have compassion. He does as he pleases. He simply is, all things were created by him, for him, and through him, to whom is worthy of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy holy holy is the most high god! He does not change like shifting shadows. Why would perfection ever change? He is good and there is no darkness in him. Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect, spiritually perfect, be holy for he is holy. Without holiness no one shall see the lord. What glory did one fall from? Seek the face of God. You must be transformed into the image of Christ who is the image of god. Therefore, since we have fallen from the glory of god we must return. So, how can we return? We are saved by grace, through faith, which is dead, without works. | Ephesians 2:8; John 14:6; | Jesus died on the cross, therefore a man is justified by faith, apart from the works of the law. Justification is just that, justification. However, faith and works are both a requirement to be saved; See : I Peter 4:18; Ephesians 2:8; James 2:26; Romans 8:3-4. Works of the law is complete and total obedience to god. That could be anything he commands. Let his will be done, but this cannot save us for we have already sinned. The punishment for such criminal activity is death. Therefore we are already found guilty. That is why we are under grace for if we were under the law how would you have the ability to escape the death penalty from a just judge? He is waiting on us to change in order to give us a pardon from him, the King. We can stop sinning, but if we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. How can a criminal claim to have never committed a crime? Sin is transgressions against the law. We were born in sin, we have already broken the law. We are already criminals on death row. So how can we ever claim to have never commited a crime? Hence Christ had to condemn sin or we would be condemn to death. The verdict is lifted once you possess the gift of salvation. A pardon you can say. It cannot be earned. It is a gift from the judge to let one walk as long as they do as he commands. If you continue to commit crimes what is stopping the judge from giving you the death penalty? You will surely die! Faith is trusting in god, that he cannot lie. That the judge shall keep his word for he never changes. Perfection need not change. God has commanded us to keep the Royal Law which is the ten commandments summarized into two. We must keep all ten commandments. Not the law nailed to the cross in Ezekiel 20:25-26, the Leviticus Priesthood made nothing perfect. For he gave everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. Through that law we become conscience to sin, but it brings death. Please do not confuse the laws, dead or alive. However, Jesus can perfect us within the Melchizedek Priesthood for he is a High Priest forever. One can be like their teacher but not greater. The royal law has always been. It shall never change. Love god with all your mind, body, soul, and strength. Love your neighbor.There is one way, truth, and life. Jesus is the only way to the father. Be still and know that he is the one and only god! You are either with him or against him. Friend or foe, life or death, make your choice. Stop sinning or face the wrath of god. One can believe Jesus exist without believing- in - Jesus. To believe - in -Jesus, one must believe he exist and be - in -Jesus. Look for the wordplay. According to 1 John 3:24, to be - in - Jesus one must love god. To love god is to obey god, according to John 14:21-24. See, luke 3:21-22; Jesus was baptised and received the spirit as he prayed. He was already sinless so no need to repent. I assume he could of asked for the spirit. See: Acts 5:32; 1 John 3:24. So, we should know that a righteous mans prayer is powerful and effective. So those who obey God, those in-the-name, shall ask anything within his will and receive it. A sinners prayer is known to fail. So do as it tells you to do according to acts 2:38-39, repent of works that lead to death then be baptized in the name of jesus. How are you in jesus again? 1 john 3:24, says those who do as he commands. So this may explain why many people do things by saying in the name of jesus, only to see it fail. Its more than just words. You must be in jesus to do things in the name of jesus. Do you understand? Many do not have the spirit for they are lead by mere instincts. Many seem to have the baptism of the john the baptist. Not that of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If you are in a state of repentance that is not complete, you are in the baptism of John. The baptism of water. See: Acts 19:1-7. Finish you repentance of acts that lead to death. Once you are baptised by the holy spirit expect the baptism of fire. Have you read the book of Job? Sifting of the devil? The refiners fire? One is perfected through suffering. You must past the test. Pick up your cross, it can perfect you if you allow it to do so. Repent means to stop committing sins. You have been warned. Repent or perish. One must believe and be-in-Jesus, to believe-in-Jesus. Those who BELIEVE-IN-JESUS, are saved, born again, and a child of God. They know God, love him, and have seen him. Are you a disciple of john or a false disciple of christ? Maybe you are true? Are you a false brother or sister? As he appeared after his death to those who loved him he shall do the same today to those who love him. The world cannot see him or know him, nor the spirit. The pure in heart shall see Jesus. The world cannot see him but those called out of the world can. According to the verses I have provided below, can you honestly say you are adopted? Have you seen him? As for the spirit, how can you have the holy spirit if you have the spirit of a sinner? A spirit of falsehood? A sinner is not saved according to 1 Peter 4:18-19. God is a god of the living and not the dead. Therefore God is not a God of sinners. He seeks those who worship in spirit and truth but a sinner cannot do that. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit and shall eventually be cut down and cast into the fire for they have denied both the son and the father. Once it turns to ash what good is it? You cannot remain dead in your sins and expect god to be your friend. According to Romans 10:13, Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. To call one Lord you must submit and obey otherwise they are not your Lord. Why do some say Lord Lord and not do as he has commanded? | See: 1 John 1:1-3; 2:3-4, 27; 3:1-10; 4:6, 12-14; 5:18-19; 2 John 1:9; Romans 8:22-24; John 3:16-18; 6:46; 7:29, 39; 12:40; 14:7-18; 15:4-8, 26-27; 16:7,16; 20:19-22, 29; Acts 5:32; 10:40-43; 16:31; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 3:16, 8:3; 9:1; 15:3-8; Galatians 1:1, 12; 4:4-6; Ephesians 1:4-6; 3:2-5; 5:6; 2 Corinthians 4:3, 13:5; Hebrews 12:14; Matthew 5:8; 7:21; 11:27; Mark 16:11-14; Luke 24:31-35; Lamentations 3:25; Jeremiah 12:3; Isaiah 55:5-7; 64:3-5; Psalms 17:15; 27:4,6, 8; 105:4; Job 42:5; 1 Chronicles 16:10-11; 2 Chronicles 7:13-15; 2 Kings 6:16-18; 1 samuel 3:1,7,21; Judges 13:21-23; Deuteronomy 32:20
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Why do people assume the bible is talking to them? There are the righteous who do right and the wicked who do wrong. Who are you? The promises are always 'yes' for those in christ. If you study the words of jesus, a lot of the time as he spoke about himself, he spoke about all the sons of god. He also exposed the sons of hell. Lets look at John 10:37, “Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.” Here we are told not to believe a sinner. The sheep know the voice of their master. They may hear a stranger but they do not listen because they say or speak of the works of their father the devil. In the same way, god may hears a sinners prayer but chooses to listen because they are not righteous. A sinners prayer can be detestable as the stench of dung. There must be life in your words and not death. Jesus is like gods prayer to you and me. Jesus was a reflection of what god wants us to be. We are to present ourselves as a perfect gift to god and he has already told us what he wants. If you do not answer the prayers of god why do you expect him to answer yours? Treat others the way you want to be treated by god. Satan rules over the sons of satan for they hate god according to John 14:23-24. Yet how many lie about such things? They do not love god. All sinners belong to satan. They do not belong to God. They do not serve the most high God. In their sins, they cannot worship god. They are not saved, born again, or a child of god. They are not a brother, sister, christian, disciple, or a follower of Jesus Christ the Lord if they are not abiding by the truth. They do not know god, love god, nor have they seen him. By their fruit you shall know them. Don’t let the sinner lie to you. Lets look at John 8:31, “Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” So, how many liars have we just exposed? According to Acts 11:26, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch,” so, how many of you have the right to call yourselves a christian? Many do not even believe in Christ. Lets look at 1 John 2:6, “Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.” A sinner remains in the darkness of the night. Who can work at night for they are asleep? Wake up and stop sinning. Walk in the light as he is in the light and you can do great works with sun up. Perhaps raise the dead, if God permits? For the prayers of the righteous are powerful. So, you must go through him to reach the father. How can you go through him if you are not in him? How could the lawless be guarenteed to inherit eternal life when they inherit the lake of fire? New wine cannot go in old wine skins. Therefore Jesus is not in a sinner and they are not in him. Many claim to have the holy spirit yet they are led by mere instincts. I have seen sons of satan who absolutely believe they are headed for heaven even if they were to die in sin not to sin. Well this is far from the truth. A sinner is the enemy of god. Is his sword not upon them? Many love themselves. They love the creation more then the creator. So test the spirits. How many of you have seen Jesus? Do you believe - in -Jesus? How many of you have been lying all this time? Have hope! Thank god for the grace he has bestowed upon us! I know you can do this! I may try to help you more once I believe I am ready. That is, if god permits and if I decide to do so. I am not really teaching yet. Just here and there I guess. I am unfit to teach you right now. Being called is one thing. Being ignorant is another. I just believe you need a few tools here and there to open your eyes to what is around you. I could be wrong. This is what I believe is a flawed theory. I have much to learn. Try to take everything I say to the bible and do your own research. One must know they don’t know in order to grow in some areas. There is always room for improvement. If you are willing to continue I may try to explain a few more things above in greater detail:
I believe there are a few major steps to make in order to inherit eternal life. Lets call it a process of evolution. A process that transforms us into celestial beings equal to angels.(Luke 20:36;1 Corinthians 15:50-54) Just remember it is a gift among many gifts. There is literally nothing we can do to “earn” this gift of salvation.(Ephesians 2:8) Be careful not to be filled with arrogance, we do not “deserve” this gift either. We truly deserve nothing. We are simply unworthy servants doing our duty in which we are obligated to do.(Luke 17:7-10) Who can give anything to god?(Romans 11:30-36) He is the creator of everything and the more you take from this world the more greedy you become.(Colossians 1:16) Okay, a gift called grace. I shall explain.
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.(Romans 3:23-26) If only we knew the significance of our transgressions. (Isaiah 53) If you are a sinner you are indeed breaking the law. We are criminals who have yet to be punished for our crimes. Imagine that you go to court for a crime that inherits the death penalty. For sin to be forgiven there must be a blood sacrifice.(Hebrew 9:22) In this case, god so loved the world he sent his only begotten son to die for our crimes against him.(John 3:16) All of our sins are poured upon Jesus if we walk in the light as he is in the light.(1 John 1:6-7) Instead of sending you to die, the judge sends his innocent son in your place. As a result the two of you are joined together in a contract, a covenant. You must stop breaking the law and accept his son as your lord for he shall rise from the dead. You must know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life that he chooses for you. Let’s say you are going to rehab to recover from your illness. In doing so, you shall be justified of all charges and set free. Through the blood of the Christ sin no longer has complete dominion over us. Death would be inevitable for all of us if it wasn’t for the grace of god. For we are no longer under the law, but under grace. For if you were under the law, how would you get away from the consequences for breaking the law?(Romans 6:14) A pardon is a pardon. So stop sinning, it’s like the cops are watching us break a lot of crimes but are waiting to see if we will change before they decide to lock us up. If we do not, we die with our sickness as we were destined to do. (1 Peter 2:4-9) Okay, what do you do to sign the contract and fulfill your promise?
Imagine that you must pick up a cross and carry it along a path towards the death of your flesh. To be raised from the dead you must be “crucified” first. (John 5:25-29; Hosea 6:2) Everyone must be punished for their sins. (2 Timothy 3:12-13, Ecclesiastes 8:11) Well, the path starts off very very wide but begins to become more and more narrow as you climb.(Matthew 7:13-14; John 10:9) Along the way you shall come across some rocks and thorns. Many obstacles cause people to stumble and fall down the mountain. (See: 1 Peter 2:1-25, Luke 8:4-15) Some leave their cross behind never to return to it. They decide to pick something else up. Perhaps something less painful? Maybe someone pays them not to carry it?(Luke 16:9) Some are tricked into believing they are carrying a cross when they are not. Well beyond all this is the promise land where the father dwells.(John 14:2) One must go through Jesus to reach the Father. Do you know the story of moses? How many failed? The story of noah? How many were righteous like him? Just how narrow is the road to life? So, how do you start this race? Accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of repentance.(acts 2:38) This is the baptism of water. If you have been dunk in water and have yet to stop commiting all sins that lead to death, you are still in the baptism of John the baptist. In order to be baptised with holy spirit you must repent. You must believe - in - jesus to be baptised in -the - name - of - jesus. See: Acts 2:38-39, repent of all acts that lead to death. Get baptised in the name of jesus for the forgiveness for sins? Those who have not done this, have they been forgiven? Ahh, good question. Well once you receive the seed of the son, the gift of the holy spirit, its like signing a contract with the most high god. According to hebrews 6, I wouldn't break this covenant if I were you. This particular seed is perishable. Remember judas. (2 Chronicles 15:12; Hebrews 8:7-13, 9:15,1:1-14;Luke 22:20; 2 Corinthians 3:6;John 3:16, 3:36;Matthew 5:17-19) ) I believe this is where you are crucified. (Romans 6:4) Once you are “dead in your sins,” the purification process begins and it is going to be very painful. (2 Corinthians 5:17) Everyone must be salted by fire.( Proverbs 11:31; Mark 9:49; Malachi 3:2; 1 cor 3:13-16; 1 peter 1:7, 4:12,17; Isaiah 33:14) Have you seen the book of Job?Once you “die” in baptism, I believe it’s like we “enter the center of the earth with jesus.” Into the coffin you go. By the way, the great harlot of babylon is a group of individual who have entered into a convenant with god and have defiled their beds as they prostitute themselves to other things.
Once in the coffin all those bugs will start to come in. As your flesh starts to decay right to your very bones you are going to feel it all.(Galatians 2:20) We must suffer a lot to enter the kingdom of heaven.(Acts 14:22) Was jesus made perfect in his sufferings? Well, you still gotta carry that cross all the way to the father for his seed is imperisable.(John 14:28) We can be saved from hell but did you think we would escape punishment?(Ecclesiastes 12:14, 3:17) Jesus is the way, truth, and life. An example we follow.(1 John 2:6, Ephesians 5:1-2) For us, its more like discipline. (Proverbs 13:24,23:13-15; Hebrews 12:5-11) For others, hell is a forever thing. Either we are salted by fire in life or forever in hell. I choose to be refined like gold till I reach perfection. I don’t want to be just a common item later to be thrown away. For the left hand tends to help sift the right hand if god permits. The devil has his purpose. They can help us to grow. I don’t know about you but if I must live a uncomfortable life then so be it. Have you heard of the story about Lazarus? (Luke 16:19-31)Okay, I shall try to explain some other theories.
I believe there is a seed of the son and a seed of father that dwells inside the temple. The father and son are ONE but how do you go THROUGH jesus to reach the father? (Ephesians 4:4-6; John 14:6) Not everyone shall reach the father. (Hebrews 12:14) Not everyone who knows jesus exist will be saved. Not everyone who recieves the spirit will saved. ( 1 Peter 4:18; Matthew 7:21-27) Those who know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life might finish the race. (John 6:25-59, 17:6-19; 1 Peter 1:13-16) We can be like jesus but not like the father. We can be like our teacher but not greater. (Luke 6:40; Romans 8:3-4; Ephesians 4:20-24) The father is indeed greater than jesus. (John 14:28) They are one, different titles and ranks. (John 8:24-28; John 20:28) The father, and the son; there seems to be more than one spirit but it is one spirit. (Romans 8:10-11) I believe the spirit of jesus is given when you receive the holy spirit. (Acts 2:38; 1 Peter 4:10) I believe the spirit of the father inside you makes you a child of god once the “full” baptism is complete. When you see him and he adopts. Godseed can no longer sin, they are sealed. (Galatians 4:6) Why does the bible say “firstfruits” of the spirit? Maybe there is more? This really confuses me for I am still eating spiritual milk so don’t trust me. Yet I believe only a few finish the entire baptism and receive the fathers seed because how many will rise from the dead in a manner Jesus did?(Romans 8:14-15; Acts 5:32) There seems to be more than one baptism but it is one process. (Ephesians 4:4-6) Like the “firstfruits” of the spirit perhaps there is more to this baptism than just being dunked into water. A baptism of water for repentance and baptism of the holy spirit and fire. (Luke 3:16; 1 Corinthians 3:10-16) Why would jesus mention completing his baptism after the water? Well, once you accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of the holy spirit I believe you entered the new covenant. It is our duty to take this seed we received up the mountain. (Mark 4:3-20; Matthew 25:14-30) However, many are not willing. (Matthew 25:14-30) I believe our sinful nature and the father are like oil and water. (Matthew 9:16-17) As a sinner, any light within you is dark. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Jesus comes in to prepare the temple for his father.(1 Peter 2:4-9) The wicked do not inherit eternal life so how could they be sealed or adopted?( 1 John 3:10) Once you reach the father I believe you are adopted. (Galatians 4:1-7; Ephesians 1:3-14; Romans 8:22-27) Once your obedience is complete and you are perfected I believe you are marked. (2 Corinthians 10:1-6; Ephesians 4:20-24) Once the fathers seed comes to dwell inside of you making you a child of god I do not believe you can sin anymore. (1 john 3:7-10; Hebrews 6:1-8) However, most people cannot get their seed past the path, rocks, and thorns. The path is very very narrow. Only few shall make it. Once the temple is “sealed” shut I do not believe anything can enter it or leave it. So have faith, follow his commands, and wait on him. Perhaps he will show himself to you? Bear good fruit..May you be tested and come forth blameless like Job. The pure in heart shall see god! | Matthew 5:8; John 6:39-40; 14:21 |Jesus rose from dead and appeared to them. He will not leave you as orphans. He shall appear to those who love him. How did paul know he finished the race? How did he know he was soon to die? When job passed the test, who did he see? Well, I speak of those not of the world, pick up your cross and join in our sufferings as a warrior of christ. Remember the three thrown into the fire. A fourth was there with them. Have hope, in the end, he shall keep his promises to those who truly love him. Grace be with you. Go in safety.
Why do people assume the bible is talking to them? There are the righteous who do right and the wicked who do wrong. Who are you? The promises are always 'yes' for those in christ. If you study the words of jesus, a lot of the time as he spoke about himself, he spoke about all the sons of god. He also exposed the sons of hell. Lets look at John 10:37, “Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.” Here we are told not to believe a sinner. The sheep know the voice of their master. They may hear a stranger but they do not listen because they say or speak of the works of their father the devil. In the same way, god may hears a sinners prayer but chooses to listen because they are not righteous. A sinners prayer can be detestable as the stench of dung. There must be life in your words and not death. Jesus is like gods prayer to you and me. Jesus was a reflection of what god wants us to be. We are to present ourselves as a perfect gift to god and he has already told us what he wants. If you do not answer the prayers of god why do you expect him to answer yours? Treat others the way you want to be treated by god. Satan rules over the sons of satan for they hate god according to John 14:23-24. Yet how many lie about such things? They do not love god. All sinners belong to satan. They do not belong to God. They do not serve the most high God. In their sins, they cannot worship god. They are not saved, born again, or a child of god. They are not a brother, sister, christian, disciple, or a follower of Jesus Christ the Lord if they are not abiding by the truth. They do not know god, love god, nor have they seen him. By their fruit you shall know them. Don’t let the sinner lie to you. Lets look at John 8:31, “Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” So, how many liars have we just exposed? According to Acts 11:26, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch,” so, how many of you have the right to call yourselves a christian? Many do not even believe in Christ. Lets look at 1 John 2:6, “Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.” A sinner remains in the darkness of the night. Who can work at night for they are asleep? Wake up and stop sinning. Walk in the light as he is in the light and you can do great works with sun up. Perhaps raise the dead, if God permits? For the prayers of the righteous are powerful. So, you must go through him to reach the father. How can you go through him if you are not in him? How could the lawless be guarenteed to inherit eternal life when they inherit the lake of fire? New wine cannot go in old wine skins. Therefore Jesus is not in a sinner and they are not in him. Many claim to have the holy spirit yet they are led by mere instincts. I have seen sons of satan who absolutely believe they are headed for heaven even if they were to die in sin not to sin. Well this is far from the truth. A sinner is the enemy of god. Is his sword not upon them? Many love themselves. They love the creation more then the creator. So test the spirits. How many of you have seen Jesus? Do you believe - in -Jesus? How many of you have been lying all this time? Have hope! Thank god for the grace he has bestowed upon us! I know you can do this! I may try to help you more once I believe I am ready. That is, if god permits and if I decide to do so. I am not really teaching yet. Just here and there I guess. I am unfit to teach you right now. Being called is one thing. Being ignorant is another. I just believe you need a few tools here and there to open your eyes to what is around you. I could be wrong. This is what I believe is a flawed theory. I have much to learn. Try to take everything I say to the bible and do your own research. One must know they don’t know in order to grow in some areas. There is always room for improvement. If you are willing to continue I may try to explain a few more things above in greater detail:
I believe there are a few major steps to make in order to inherit eternal life. Lets call it a process of evolution. A process that transforms us into celestial beings equal to angels.(Luke 20:36;1 Corinthians 15:50-54) Just remember it is a gift among many gifts. There is literally nothing we can do to “earn” this gift of salvation.(Ephesians 2:8) Be careful not to be filled with arrogance, we do not “deserve” this gift either. We truly deserve nothing. We are simply unworthy servants doing our duty in which we are obligated to do.(Luke 17:7-10) Who can give anything to god?(Romans 11:30-36) He is the creator of everything and the more you take from this world the more greedy you become.(Colossians 1:16) Okay, a gift called grace. I shall explain.
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.(Romans 3:23-26) If only we knew the significance of our transgressions. (Isaiah 53) If you are a sinner you are indeed breaking the law. We are criminals who have yet to be punished for our crimes. Imagine that you go to court for a crime that inherits the death penalty. For sin to be forgiven there must be a blood sacrifice.(Hebrew 9:22) In this case, god so loved the world he sent his only begotten son to die for our crimes against him.(John 3:16) All of our sins are poured upon Jesus if we walk in the light as he is in the light.(1 John 1:6-7) Instead of sending you to die, the judge sends his innocent son in your place. As a result the two of you are joined together in a contract, a covenant. You must stop breaking the law and accept his son as your lord for he shall rise from the dead. You must know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life that he chooses for you. Let’s say you are going to rehab to recover from your illness. In doing so, you shall be justified of all charges and set free. Through the blood of the Christ sin no longer has complete dominion over us. Death would be inevitable for all of us if it wasn’t for the grace of god. For we are no longer under the law, but under grace. For if you were under the law, how would you get away from the consequences for breaking the law?(Romans 6:14) A pardon is a pardon. So stop sinning, it’s like the cops are watching us break a lot of crimes but are waiting to see if we will change before they decide to lock us up. If we do not, we die with our sickness as we were destined to do. (1 Peter 2:4-9) Okay, what do you do to sign the contract and fulfill your promise?
Imagine that you must pick up a cross and carry it along a path towards the death of your flesh. To be raised from the dead you must be “crucified” first. (John 5:25-29; Hosea 6:2) Everyone must be punished for their sins. (2 Timothy 3:12-13, Ecclesiastes 8:11) Well, the path starts off very very wide but begins to become more and more narrow as you climb.(Matthew 7:13-14; John 10:9) Along the way you shall come across some rocks and thorns. Many obstacles cause people to stumble and fall down the mountain. (See: 1 Peter 2:1-25, Luke 8:4-15) Some leave their cross behind never to return to it. They decide to pick something else up. Perhaps something less painful? Maybe someone pays them not to carry it?(Luke 16:9) Some are tricked into believing they are carrying a cross when they are not. Well beyond all this is the promise land where the father dwells.(John 14:2) One must go through Jesus to reach the Father. Do you know the story of moses? How many failed? The story of noah? How many were righteous like him? Just how narrow is the road to life? So, how do you start this race? Accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of repentance.(acts 2:38) This is the baptism of water. If you have been dunk in water and have yet to stop commiting all sins that lead to death, you are still in the baptism of John the baptist. In order to be baptised with holy spirit you must repent. You must believe - in - jesus to be baptised in -the - name - of - jesus. See: Acts 2:38-39, repent of all acts that lead to death. Get baptised in the name of jesus for the forgiveness for sins? Those who have not done this, have they been forgiven? Ahh, good question. Well once you receive the seed of the son, the gift of the holy spirit, its like signing a contract with the most high god. According to hebrews 6, I wouldn't break this covenant if I were you. This particular seed is perishable. Remember judas. (2 Chronicles 15:12; Hebrews 8:7-13, 9:15,1:1-14;Luke 22:20; 2 Corinthians 3:6;John 3:16, 3:36;Matthew 5:17-19) ) I believe this is where you are crucified. (Romans 6:4) Once you are “dead in your sins,” the purification process begins and it is going to be very painful. (2 Corinthians 5:17) Everyone must be salted by fire.( Proverbs 11:31; Mark 9:49; Malachi 3:2; 1 cor 3:13-16; 1 peter 1:7, 4:12,17; Isaiah 33:14) Have you seen the book of Job?Once you “die” in baptism, I believe it’s like we “enter the center of the earth with jesus.” Into the coffin you go. By the way, the great harlot of babylon is a group of individual who have entered into a convenant with god and have defiled their beds as they prostitute themselves to other things.
Once in the coffin all those bugs will start to come in. As your flesh starts to decay right to your very bones you are going to feel it all.(Galatians 2:20) We must suffer a lot to enter the kingdom of heaven.(Acts 14:22) Was jesus made perfect in his sufferings? Well, you still gotta carry that cross all the way to the father for his seed is imperisable.(John 14:28) We can be saved from hell but did you think we would escape punishment?(Ecclesiastes 12:14, 3:17) Jesus is the way, truth, and life. An example we follow.(1 John 2:6, Ephesians 5:1-2) For us, its more like discipline. (Proverbs 13:24,23:13-15; Hebrews 12:5-11) For others, hell is a forever thing. Either we are salted by fire in life or forever in hell. I choose to be refined like gold till I reach perfection. I don’t want to be just a common item later to be thrown away. For the left hand tends to help sift the right hand if god permits. The devil has his purpose. They can help us to grow. I don’t know about you but if I must live a uncomfortable life then so be it. Have you heard of the story about Lazarus? (Luke 16:19-31)Okay, I shall try to explain some other theories.
I believe there is a seed of the son and a seed of father that dwells inside the temple. The father and son are ONE but how do you go THROUGH jesus to reach the father? (Ephesians 4:4-6; John 14:6) Not everyone shall reach the father. (Hebrews 12:14) Not everyone who knows jesus exist will be saved. Not everyone who recieves the spirit will saved. ( 1 Peter 4:18; Matthew 7:21-27) Those who know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life might finish the race. (John 6:25-59, 17:6-19; 1 Peter 1:13-16) We can be like jesus but not like the father. We can be like our teacher but not greater. (Luke 6:40; Romans 8:3-4; Ephesians 4:20-24) The father is indeed greater than jesus. (John 14:28) They are one, different titles and ranks. (John 8:24-28; John 20:28) The father, and the son; there seems to be more than one spirit but it is one spirit. (Romans 8:10-11) I believe the spirit of jesus is given when you receive the holy spirit. (Acts 2:38; 1 Peter 4:10) I believe the spirit of the father inside you makes you a child of god once the “full” baptism is complete. When you see him and he adopts. Godseed can no longer sin, they are sealed. (Galatians 4:6) Why does the bible say “firstfruits” of the spirit? Maybe there is more? This really confuses me for I am still eating spiritual milk so don’t trust me. Yet I believe only a few finish the entire baptism and receive the fathers seed because how many will rise from the dead in a manner Jesus did?(Romans 8:14-15; Acts 5:32) There seems to be more than one baptism but it is one process. (Ephesians 4:4-6) Like the “firstfruits” of the spirit perhaps there is more to this baptism than just being dunked into water. A baptism of water for repentance and baptism of the holy spirit and fire. (Luke 3:16; 1 Corinthians 3:10-16) Why would jesus mention completing his baptism after the water? Well, once you accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of the holy spirit I believe you entered the new covenant. It is our duty to take this seed we received up the mountain. (Mark 4:3-20; Matthew 25:14-30) However, many are not willing. (Matthew 25:14-30) I believe our sinful nature and the father are like oil and water. (Matthew 9:16-17) As a sinner, any light within you is dark. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Jesus comes in to prepare the temple for his father.(1 Peter 2:4-9) The wicked do not inherit eternal life so how could they be sealed or adopted?( 1 John 3:10) Once you reach the father I believe you are adopted. (Galatians 4:1-7; Ephesians 1:3-14; Romans 8:22-27) Once your obedience is complete and you are perfected I believe you are marked. (2 Corinthians 10:1-6; Ephesians 4:20-24) Once the fathers seed comes to dwell inside of you making you a child of god I do not believe you can sin anymore. (1 john 3:7-10; Hebrews 6:1-8) However, most people cannot get their seed past the path, rocks, and thorns. The path is very very narrow. Only few shall make it. Once the temple is “sealed” shut I do not believe anything can enter it or leave it. So have faith, follow his commands, and wait on him. Perhaps he will show himself to you? Bear good fruit..May you be tested and come forth blameless like Job. The pure in heart shall see god! | Matthew 5:8; John 6:39-40; 14:21 |Jesus rose from dead and appeared to them. He will not leave you as orphans. He shall appear to those who love him. How did paul know he finished the race? How did he know he was soon to die? When job passed the test, who did he see? Well, I speak of those not of the world, pick up your cross and join in our sufferings as a warrior of christ. Remember the three thrown into the fire. A fourth was there with them. Have hope, in the end, he shall keep his promises to those who truly love him. Grace be with you. Go in safety.
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The Fire Rises
Via, Veritas, Vita
I obviously didn't read everything you wrote Harbinger, but I did skim through it. You seemed to be implying that "true" Christians never sin...? Unless I misinterpreted you
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When we pray, God hears more than we say, answers more than we ask, gives more than we imagine...in HIS own time and HIS own way.
If God answers your prayer, he is increasing your faith.
If he delays, he is increasing your patience.
If he doesn't answer your prayer, he is preparing the best for you.
If God answers your prayer, he is increasing your faith.
If he delays, he is increasing your patience.
If he doesn't answer your prayer, he is preparing the best for you.
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