Why doesnt creationism need any data?

[AV1611VET]

Last I checked, the Bible was written by men.

Did you happen to notice if they were working in the capacity of a secretary or not?

That would require the reasoning of man, something that Astridhere rejects.

But you're the one who said you checked; and I was just wondering if you noticed it or not?

 

[Loudmouth]

But you're the one who said you checked; and I was just wondering if you noticed it or not?

I read that men claimed they were inspired by God, if that is what you mean. However, this is men making claims about themselves which Astridhere would also reject.

 

[Loudmouth]

We say Homo erectuses were men & women who died of strange diseases.

You say a lot of things. Diseases do not produce the differences seen between modern humans and H. erectus. Diseases do not change wrist morphology, as one example.

 

[Split Rock]

-- What's wrong with that?

What's wrong is that Astridhere is claiming that she has provided such evidence.

We say Homo erectuses were men & women who died of strange diseases.

Sorry, dude, but that's a real crock.

 

[Nathan Poe]

We say Homo erectuses were men & women who died of strange diseases.

And we laugh at you when you say nonsense like that.

 

[AV1611VET]

I read that men claimed they were inspired by God,

Hmmm ... would you be so kind as to give me a reference verse for that, please?

Thanks --

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by AV1611VET We say Homo erectuses were men & women who died of strange diseases.

Homo erectus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Homo erectus (from the Latin ērĭgĕre, "to put up, set upright") is an extinct species of hominid that originated in Africa—and spread as far as India, China and Java—from the end of the Pliocene epoch to the later Pleistocene, about 1.8 to 1.3 million years ago

Many paleoanthropologists still debate the definition of H. erectus and H. ergaster as separate species. Some call H. ergaster the direct African ancestor of H. erectus, proposing that it emigrated out of Africa and migrated into Asia, branching into a distinct species.[18] Most dispense with the species-name ergaster, making no distinction between such fossils as the Turkana Boy and Peking Man.

Though "Homo ergaster" has gained some acceptance as a valid taxon, these two are still usually defined as distinct African and Asian populations of the larger species H. erectus.

 

[AV1611VET]

You say a lot of things.

Thank you --

Diseases do not produce the differences seen between modern humans and H. erectus.

I disagree -- especially if God sent them.

Diseases do not change wrist morphology, as one example.

I was under the impression we were discussing primarily skulls here.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, dude, but that's a real crock.

Meaning you're just hearing this for the first time, right?

 

[AV1611VET]

And we laugh at you when you say nonsense like that.

Can't say as I blame you; especially since that's usually you guys' first response to something you've never heard before.

 

[AV1611VET]

Though "Homo ergaster" has gained some acceptance as a valid taxon, these two are still usually defined as distinct African and Asian populations of the larger species H. erectus.

QV please: 31

That is the start of a discussion I had with these Internet scientists on this very subject.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

QV please: 31

That is the start of a discussion I had with these Internet scientists on this very subject.

Thks Phil
So what does that have to do with the Bible/creationism?

 

[Loudmouth]

Thank you --

I disagree

We disagree on a lot of things. The difference is that I have evidence to back up my claims. You don't.

I was under the impression we were discussing primarily skulls here.

We can if you want. What disease causes a pronounced prognathus, lack of a chin, large eyebrow ridges, and a 30% reduction in cranium capacity?

We can get back to wrist morphology later.

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

We can if you want. What disease causes a pronounced prognathus, lack of a chin, large eyebrow ridges, and a 30% reduction in cranium capacity?

Creationism?

 

[AV1611VET]

Thks Phil
So what does that have to do with the Bible/creationism?

It has nothing to do with creationism --

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It has nothing to do with creationism --

Oh

 

[AV1611VET]

We disagree on a lot of things. The difference is that I have evidence to back up my claims. You don't.

Big deal -- they had evidence to back up Phlogiston too.

We can if you want. What disease causes a pronounced prognathus, lack of a chin, large eyebrow ridges, and a 30% reduction in cranium capacity?

Don't know -- did you read my link?

Leviticus 26:16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart:

Read especially what King David died of in Psalm 38, and what it was doing to his bone structure.

 

[Nostromo]

Big deal -- they had evidence to back up Phlogiston too.

You couldn't care less whether you're wrong, could you?

 

[Nathan Poe]

You couldn't care less whether you're wrong, could you?

he's never cared before.

 

[Nostromo]

I meant in general, rather than just with regard to phlogiston. Probably should have left out the quote.