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I can see that time itself may have been affected at the time Jesus died. That is a little hard to get the head around, I know. But it would explain why they can't seem to pinpoint the eclipse, and the exact times for the life of Christ.
It seems to make sense that the central point of time on earth...the death of Christ for our sins...that time was affected. Even the calendar starts there.
I preach that Jesus created the universe. Do you agree?Meanwhile, you preach nothing.
For believers, it is not nothing that Jesus died and rose again, and that He confirmed all that Moses was and said. All the thing you are against apparently?Nothing but assertion; no logic, no evidence, mere assertion.
Yep, I sure do, I know the basis of the claims that you avoid even dealing with, and instead make some flussfy pretense of knowing something.So that's a no, you don't know how science works.
Easy. How could there be hydrogen in New Jerusalem? How could Jesus eat and drink after He arose from the dead and had an eternal spiritual body? The mere presence of an element does not mean that that element existed in a spiritual city or body, or even deep space in the way it would here. Remember that the hydrogen from space is ONLY seen here.How can there be hydrogen if the laws are different?
I am not sure that the data in light HERE can tell us about the bond there.If the bond is different, why doesn't it look different?
Things can ONLY look and exist a certain way in this time and space. The magic is claiming that this way here is that way there.Or does the transition between the different-law part of the universe and the same-law part of the universe magically change the way things look?
It is NOT different in THIS time and space. The question is why would light and what data it can contain HERE be any different here? So many assumptions on your part. Such a shame that you have nothing from reality to back you up. Evidence please.Again, if it is different, why doesn't it look different?
Your wish that reality exclude Christ is dead in the water.Evidence from reality, that is. Quoting passages from an old book isn't going to cut it.
Not at all. Things change in heaven too. Things changed in the former state here on earth. Things change in deep space. That does not mean that our fishbowl perceptions and limits apply there. You have never been able to show that science is right about things beyond it's little puddle of knowledge and range.The rate is irrelevant. That fact we can see it changing proves time exists there.
Better still punch in any date before Christ, and then show the collaborative evidence. Prove that an eclipse was a certain specific hour and day.We can pinpoint eclipses very accurately. I have a program on my computer that can do it. It's called Stellarium. Download it (it's free), then punch in the time and date and location, and see what happens.
Well, it is set to His birth...His coming.The calendar starts at the point Christ died for our sins?
That sounds a bit like juvie drunken silliness.Go and sit in the corner and think about what you said.
For believers, it is not nothing that Jesus died and rose again, and that He confirmed all that Moses was and said. All the thing you are against apparently?
There was a question mark.There you go again, making stuff up again, this time about what I believe.
I preach that Jesus created the universe. Do you agree?
Jesus did create the universe.Is that what you preach? Funny, I've never heard you say it... not once, in all your anti-science screeds.
Jesus did create the universe. Now you say it.
Ah never mind, I mistook you for one of the many 'believers' that do not believe Jesus created things.I could say an army of sentient garden gnomes created the universe. Why do you care so much over what is said instead of what is done?
Yep, I sure do, I know the basis of the claims that you avoid even dealing with, and instead make some flussfy pretense of knowing something.
Easy. How could there be hydrogen in New Jerusalem? How could Jesus eat and drink after He arose from the dead and had an eternal spiritual body? The mere presence of an element does not mean that that element existed in a spiritual city or body, or even deep space in the way it would here. Remember that the hydrogen from space is ONLY seen here.
I am not sure that the data in light HERE can tell us about the bond there.
Things can ONLY look and exist a certain way in this time and space. The magic is claiming that this way here is that way there.
It is NOT different in THIS time and space. The question is why would light and what data it can contain HERE be any different here? So many assumptions on your part. Such a shame that you have nothing from reality to back you up. Evidence please.
Your wish that reality exclude Christ is dead in the water.
Not at all. Things change in heaven too. Things changed in the former state here on earth. Things change in deep space. That does not mean that our fishbowl perceptions and limits apply there. You have never been able to show that science is right about things beyond it's little puddle of knowledge and range.
Better still punch in any date before Christ, and then show the collaborative evidence. Prove that an eclipse was a certain specific hour and day.
Well, it is set to His birth...His coming.
That sounds a bit like juvie drunken silliness.
No offense but we do need to add science to the list of words you should not even be allowed to use. You would need to first demonstrate some familiarity with the term and concept.No, you do not know how science works. You have demonstrated that countless times.
No need to explain how Jesus created everything. That is a bogus concept. What is needed here is to demonstrate that those who have blasphemed Jesus and ridiculed Scripture, and badmouthed believers in the name of science, have been pulling a fast one.This does not answer the question. What good is it to propose an alternative viewpoint if you can't show how that alternative viewpoint explains what we see?
To answer that you would need to know precisely how it was different. That could include knowing what time is and what space would be like without time as we think of it! It would also require some knowledge of the spiritual, and the effects it has on the physical. Science is stuck in a little fishbowl of earth and area and worse yet, only in the present state on earth and area! They could not BEGIN to comprehend the true mysteries of God the spiritual and creation.But it IS different at the source, according to you. So why doesn't it look different?
Actually I have personal experience, all of history, and most men living on earth as we speak who agree. Doubts are worthless.You have nothing to show that spirits are real.
I need not disprove anything that is not proven. Now I could be wrong on this point. Perhaps there is real solid evidence for a precise hour and day of some eclipse long before Christ came to earth. Until someone produces it though, you are groping in the dark.No. You do some actual work for a change. Support your own ideas instead of getting others to disprove it.
I don't want to get into silliness with a married lady...sorry.Oh, is an ad hominem the best you've got?
What good is it to propose an alternative viewpoint if you can't show how that alternative viewpoint explains what we see?
Hilarious.Just accept the cause of the earth's rotation please so science can advance and get rid of those Fairie Dust perpetual motion machines spinning against friction in the center of the earth for 4+ billion years.
http://www.livescience.com/39780-magnetic-field-pushes-earth-core.html
No offense but we do need to add science to the list of words you should not even be allowed to use. You would need to first demonstrate some familiarity with the term and concept.
No need to explain how Jesus created everything. That is a bogus concept. What is needed here is to demonstrate that those who have blasphemed Jesus and ridiculed Scripture, and badmouthed believers in the name of science, have been pulling a fast one.
To answer that you would need to know precisely how it was different. That could include knowing what time is and what space would be like without time as we think of it! It would also require some knowledge of the spiritual, and the effects it has on the physical. Science is stuck in a little fishbowl of earth and area and worse yet, only in the present state on earth and area! They could not BEGIN to comprehend the true mysteries of God the spiritual and creation.
Actually I have personal experience, all of history, and most men living on earth as we speak who agree. Doubts are worthless.
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