Why does hell exist?

[William Lefranc]

Pray tell, o wise one.

All I asked you was to please define what God's love is. Can you define it without using sarcasm? Forgiveness is not a definition of love, but a result of a greater love.

 

[Der Alte]

Death and Hell give up the dead that were in them (don't hold them back!), so yes I believe so....

That is correct then,

Matthew 25:31-32
(31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
(32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
...
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
....
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.​

 

[Shrewd Manager]

That is correct then,

Matthew 25:31-32
(31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
(32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
...
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
....
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.​

Life is tough. Then I die and go to hell where God punishes me. And then He calls me up just to tell me that since I didn't accept Jesus He'll be killing me a second time and torturing me in eternal hellfire.

Or....

Life is tough, a living hell of darkness and confusion, dead to life's purpose. Then I die and God calls me up, humbling me by revealing who He is and His love for me beyond measure. I'm now a new man, reborn in Christ, cleansed of my sin and confessing God.

Personally, I believe the Spirit and the Bible teach the latter afterlife - reconciliation, restoration, regeneration, call it what you will. I happen to like good news. So I praise the Lord and rejoice, for He is the God of second chances, the good shepherd, the great physician, the suffering servant, a mighty fortress.

You might prefer the other path. Up to you brother, judge rightly.

 

[FineLinen]

Life is tough. Then I die and go to hell where God punishes me. And then He calls me up just to tell me that since I didn't accept Jesus He'll be killing me a second time and torturing me in eternal hellfire.

Or....

Life is tough, a living hell of darkness and confusion, dead to life's purpose. Then I die and God calls me up, humbling me by revealing who He is and His love for me beyond measure. I'm now a new man, reborn in Christ, cleansed of my sin and confessing God.

Personally, I believe the Spirit and the Bible teach the latter afterlife - reconciliation, restoration, regeneration, call it what you will. I happen to like good news. So I praise the Lord and rejoice, for He is the God of second chances, the good shepherd, the great physician, the suffering servant, a mighty fortress.

You might prefer the other path. Up to you brother, judge rightly.

He Knows My Name by The Maranatha Singers

 

[FineLinen]

Life is tough. Then I die and go to hell where God punishes me. And then He calls me up just to tell me that since I didn't accept Jesus He'll be killing me a second time and torturing me in eternal hellfire.

Or....

Life is tough, a living hell of darkness and confusion, dead to life's purpose. Then I die and God calls me up, humbling me by revealing who He is and His love for me beyond measure. I'm now a new man, reborn in Christ, cleansed of my sin and confessing God.

Personally, I believe the Spirit and the Bible teach the latter afterlife - reconciliation, restoration, regeneration, call it what you will. I happen to like good news. So I praise the Lord and rejoice, for He is the God of second chances, the good shepherd, the great physician, the suffering servant, a mighty fortress.

You might prefer the other path. Up to you brother, judge rightly.

Dear Shrewd: The Father of all fathers never fails. His punishment has one purpose, and one purpose ONLY>>>>>>

Change & transformation

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Dear Shrewd: The Father of all fathers never fails. His punishment has one purpose, and one purpose ONLY>>>>>>

Change & transformation

Praise God, F.L. for His gifting you with indefatigable devotion to the true gospel.

 

[Der Alte]

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<SM>Life is tough. Then I die and go to hell where God punishes me. And then He calls me up just to tell me that since I didn't accept Jesus He'll be killing me a second time and torturing me in eternal hellfire.
Or....
Life is tough, a living hell of darkness and confusion, dead to life's purpose. Then I die and God calls me up, humbling me by revealing who He is and His love for me beyond measure. I'm now a new man, reborn in Christ, cleansed of my sin and confessing God.
Personally, I believe the Spirit and the Bible teach the latter afterlife - reconciliation, restoration, regeneration, call it what you will. I happen to like good news. So I praise the Lord and rejoice, for He is the God of second chances, the good shepherd, the great physician, the suffering servant, a mighty fortress.
You might prefer the other path. Up to you brother, judge rightly.<SM>

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I have judged rightly and will continue to do so. I love the "Good News" but it ain't pie in the sky by and by for everyone.
I quoted from Matt 25 where Jesus said

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."​

I cannot find one verse where Jesus said or implied that all mankind will be saved no matter what. I wonder why there is no clear statement to that effect anywhere in the Bible?

 

[FineLinen]

Praise God, F.L. for His gifting you with indefatigable devotion to the true gospel.

Dear Shrewd: Are you aware that that some of the finest men and woman who ever walked this globe based their entire knowledge of the Ultimate Reconciliation on pure fancy and "feel good" theology? Yup, no Scripture to indicate the polus made sinners are the identical polus made righteous.

The George MacDonald's, the Wm. Law's, the Isaac Watt's and Hannah W. Smith's all with ZERO Scripture to stand upon. Wake up my friend while you are still breathing.

The love & grace of Father has an expiration date?

 

[Shrewd Manager]

The love & grace of Father has an expiration date?

It's only mortals who want to make a person's acceptance of the gift a precondition to God's loving them.

God loves us whether we accept it or not. But He hates those evil things that keep us from Him.

For He is good, and changeth not.

There are some peculiar ideas of goodness out there, I must say.

 

[FineLinen]

It's only mortals who want to make a person's acceptance of the gift a precondition to God's loving them.

God loves us whether we accept it or not. But He hates those evil things that keep us from Him.

For He is good, and changeth not.

There are some peculiar ideas of goodness out there, I must say.

Perhaps it is time for a wee song?

His steadfast love lasts how long?

It NEVER ceases, NEVER!

 

[Shrewd Manager]

It NEVER ceases, NEVER!

If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. (2 Tim 2:13)

 

[FineLinen]

If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. (2 Tim 2:13)

Dear Shrewd: When in doubt of the extent of Father's expansive love and mercy always consult the Source, the Father Himself. The prophet of the Lamentations would be one's second source. Both will radically clear any and all doubts one could possibly imagine in a nano second!

The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases>>>>

EVER!

 

[FineLinen]

If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. (2 Tim 2:13)

Come in down under: My friend, the Father of all fathers can be trusted! The word "cannot" should help to eradicate any doubts we faithless ones may have.

Cannot= οὐ=

It is NOT possible!

From Him the all, thru Him the all, in Him the all>>>>

Our God is the God of ta panta

 

[Der Alte]

I am still waiting for that one verse where God, Himself, or Jesus, Himself, clearly states that all mankind will be saved, no matter what.

 

[FineLinen]

I am still waiting for that one verse where God, Himself, or Jesus, Himself, clearly states that all mankind will be saved, no matter what.

Dear D.A.: The Lord Jesus Christ can undo apollumi in a few remnant pieces of fish and bread, but
alas, must fail in His mission to break apollumi on the vast segments of broken lost sinners for whom He has come as the Last Adam.

Some of us transformed by His Design

 

[Der Alte]

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<FineLinen>Dear D.A.: The Lord Jesus Christ can undo apollumi in a few remnant pieces of fish and bread, but
alas, must fail in His mission to break apollumi on the vast segments of broken lost sinners for whom He has come as the Last Adam.
Some of us transformed by His Design<fl>

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Since God created the world and everything in it He certainly can save everyone in the world, if He chooses to.
But I have not seen even one verse spoken by God, Himself, or Jesus, Himself that says He will save all mankind, no matter what.
In Matthew 25:46 when Jesus said "and these shall go away into eternal punishment but the righteous into life eternal" why didn't He say instead "Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom [which was also] prepared for you from the foundation of the world?"

 

[FineLinen]

<FineLinen>Dear D.A.: The Lord Jesus Christ can undo apollumi in a few remnant pieces of fish and bread, but
alas, must fail in His mission to break apollumi on the vast segments of broken lost sinners for whom He has come as the Last Adam.
Some of us transformed by His Design<fl>
Since God created the world and everything in it He certainly can save everyone in the world, if He chooses to.
But I have not seen even one verse spoken by God, Himself, or Jesus, Himself that says He will save all mankind, no matter what.
In Matthew 25:46 when Jesus said "and these shall go away into eternal punishment but the righteous into life eternal" why didn't He say instead "Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom [which was also] prepared for you from the foundation of the world?"

Dear D.A.: The Archegos & Prodromos has the entire Plan well prepared as the Prince-Leader of Reconciliation!

Your foundational Scripture for aionios kolasis & aionios zoe has never been thought of by Dr. Wm. Barclay, whose qualifications are surely short of a full deck as a would be koine scholar.

 

[FineLinen]

The Sheep & The Goats

The Sheep And The Goats - Jonathan Mitchell's Writings

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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