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god doesnt hate you, it is the devil :( but i think that often too,nothing have ever workedout for good, the devil
is very smart at make people scared and believing things that are not true, and destroying. ive heard of someone
that god just cant help always,because of we people, not always letting him in doing things in our life, because we are scared :(scared because of the devil, and he have always his plan of deceiving, until you are enlighted, or found god. then he is away for ever, and it is gods destiny of being everybody happy for always, luckely!
 
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God doesn't hate you. He loves you very much! Sometimes things happen and we think it's a punishment because of us when really it's not at all and has nothing to do with us. God allows somethings in life to happen to help shape our character and draw us closer to Him because He loves us so much He wants to be our only God and to show us only He is God, and that He wants to be the one to comfort us. The devil tries to make us believe lies about God and ourselves to take us away from God. But we have the choice who to listen to and believe, God or the devil.
 
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Anything thats contrary to the word of God is a lie. God hating you is a lie, and the only way to effectively counter attack a lie is with God's word which expresses over and over again how much God loves us. "But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners." Romans 5:8. The Love that Jesus has for you passes knowledge. If he hated you he definitely would not have taken the wrath and judgment that you deserved upon himself. He desires you more than you could ever desire him. He cares about you more than you care about yourself. He knows you better than you know yourself. God is love, so how can love and hate exist together? If You're Looking For Spiritual Growth Visit The Website In My Bio, It Has Powerful Articles That Will Help Transform Your Walk With God.
 
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Anything thats contrary to the word of God is a lie. God hating you is a lie, and the only way to effectively counter attack a lie is with God's word which expresses over and over again how much God loves us. "But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners." Romans 5:8. The Love that Jesus has for you passes knowledge. If he hated you he definitely would not have taken the wrath and judgment that you deserved upon himself. He desires you more than you could ever desire him. He cares about you more than you care about yourself. He knows you better than you know yourself. God is love, so how can love and hate exist together? If You're Looking For Spiritual Growth Visit The Website In My Bio, It Has Powerful Articles That Will Help Transform Your Walk With God.
If he cares about us, why is there pain and suffering all around us? If he created everything, and has limitless power, then he allows all bad things to happen. If he truly desires us like you said, then he would automatically have us, but he doesn't. Why is this?
 
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If he cares about us, why is there pain and suffering all around us? If he created everything, and has limitless power, then he allows all bad things to happen. If he truly desires us like you said, then he would automatically have us, but he doesn't. Why is this?

Why there is pain and suffering: Take a grand look at History as well as Biblical History. Humans have created this strife against ourselves for over a millennia - since Adam, Eve and the Serpent. God has nothing to do with our own peril.

But he does only if we let Him in: He, since beginning of man, wanted us to live with Him in godliness. He loves us so much that He made us in His image.
He loves us so much that He is slow to Wrath (for us - to be slow with anger). He loves us so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die for us and defeat Satan.
He loves us so much that He didn't wipe out the entire Human race or the animals and of their kind, and every creeping thing, and of their kind... We are to be Christ's Bride one day, He loves us that much, and so much more than I can ever type or dream of. For those who believe in Him will not perish, but have everlasting eternal life.
 
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Why there is pain and suffering: Take a grand look at History as well as Biblical History. Humans have created this strife against ourselves for over a millennia - since Adam, Eve and the Serpent. God has nothing to do with our own peril.

But he does only if we let Him in: He, since beginning of man, wanted us to live with Him in godliness. He loves us so much that He made us in His image.
He loves us so much that He is slow to Wrath (for us - to be slow with anger). He loves us so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die for us and defeat Satan.
He loves us so much that He didn't wipe out the entire Human race or the animals and of their kind, and every creeping thing, and of their kind... We are to be Christ's Bride one day, He loves us that much, and so much more than I can ever type or dream of. For those who believe in Him will not perish, but have everlasting eternal life.
When did Adam and Eve create strife against themselves? Also, he didn't wipe us out but according to the bible he almost did in order to get rid of evil which clearly didn't work. If I remeber correctly, he just saved Noah's family which makes me wonder, how many other innocent families ended up drowning in the flood? If he is as loving as you say, why is he so willing to commit genocide against us and let us suffer eternally for not believing in him when some have grown up never having been told of him or being able to read the bible?
 
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Yes, in the old testament, he is described as a wrathful god. God of Abraham, the fear of Isaac. Btw, you only answered the questions of the post you countered but you never explained as to why he lets all misfortune happen. Yes you gave me answers, but your post generated more.
P.S were I unwilling to hear answers I would not have come here, have read the Quran, the bible, the satanic bible or even have asked questions about paganism and deistic polytheism (which led me to Christian Gnosticism). I'll admit I look forward to debating with you in the future as you seem to be a nice person who doesn't repeat the same answers that I hear everywhere
 
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Yes, in the old testament, he is described as a wrathful god. God of Abraham, the fear of Isaac. Btw, you only answered the questions of the post you countered but you never explained as to why he lets all misfortune happen. Yes you gave me answers, but your post generated more.
P.S were I unwilling to hear answers I would not have come here, have read the Quran, the bible, the satanic bible or even have asked questions about paganism and deistic polytheism (which led me to Christian Gnosticism). I'll admit I look forward to debating with you in the future as you seem to be a nice person who doesn't repeat the same answers that I hear everywhere
I read your question again and I apologize for that.
Please wait until I'm home...(I'm at work, Ssh!) :asd:
 
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When did Adam and Eve create strife against themselves?
When they disobeyed God.

Also, he didn't wipe us out but according to the bible he almost did in order to get rid of evil which clearly didn't work.
Ahh, this is not a failure but a warning and also a piece of prophesy later on.

If I remember correctly, he just saved Noah's family which makes me wonder, how many other innocent families ended up drowning in the flood? If he is as loving as you say, why is he so willing to commit genocide against us and let us suffer eternally for not believing in him when some have grown up never having been told of him or being able to read the bible?

Let's go through Noah and the Flood, shall we? :pray:

Genesis 6:8-22

8 The LORD was pleased with Noah, however.

9 These are the family records of Noah: Noah was a righteous man. Blameless during his times, Noah communed with God. 10 Noah fathered three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11 By this time, the earth had become ruined in God’s eyes and filled with violence. 12 God looked at the earth, observing how corrupt its population had become, because the entire human race had corrupted itself. 13 So God announced to Noah, “I’ve decided to destroy every living thing on earth, because it has become filled with violence due to them. Look! I’m about to annihilate them, along with the earth.14 So make yourself an ark out of cedar, constructing compartments in it, and cover it inside and out with tar. 15 Make the ark like this: 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. 16 Make a roof for the ark, and finish the walls to within one cubit from the top. Place the entrance in the side of the ark, and build a lower, a middle, and an upper deck.

17 “For my part, I’m about to flood the earth with water and destroy every living thing that breathes. Everything on earth will die. 18 However, I will establish my own covenant with you, and you are to enter the ark—you, your sons, your wife, and your sons’ wives. 19 You are to bring two of every living thing into the ark so they may remain alive with you. They are to be male and female. 20 From birds according to their species, from domestic animals according to their species, and from everything that crawls on the ground according to their species —two of everything will come to you so they may remain alive. 21 For your part, take some of the edible food and store it away—these stores will be food for you and the animals.”

22 Noah did all of this, precisely as God had commanded.

As for innocence, there were none. God saw favor in Noah because of his faithful walk with Him, and thus, saved him and his family. God sees all as well as the hearts of man. He saw nothing but evil acts and violence upon the earth.

Suffer eternally? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Not believing in Christ and not knowing or hearing anything about Him are two very different things. Those who choose not to believe in Him is a free choice to make. For those who don't know anything about Him, nor having heard about Him, I can't see God not making Himself known to even them in some way. It's also the reason why there are Missionaries for that very purpose.
 
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Suffer eternally meaning going to hell, and forgive me for saying this, but I have a hard time seeing how killing off almost every land creature is very loving, even if they are corrupt and evil. For some reason, Samael (God) spared Lucifer even though he is the "father of evil" and his archnemesis, so this in itself proves that Saklas (yet another name for your god) has some disdain towards humanity otherwise he would have killed Satan too with a single thought.
When they disobeyed God.


Ahh, this is not a failure but a warning and also a piece of prophesy later on.



Let's go through Noah and the Flood, shall we? :pray:

Genesis 6:8-22



As for innocence, there were none. God saw favor in Noah because of his faithful walk with Him, and thus, saved him and his family. God sees all as well as the hearts of man. He saw nothing but evil acts and violence upon the earth.

Suffer eternally? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Not believing in Christ and not knowing or hearing anything about Him are two very different things. Those who choose not to believe in Him is a free choice to make. For those who don't know anything about Him, nor having heard about Him, I can't see God not making Himself known to even them in some way. It's also the reason why there are Missionaries for that very purpose.
So what you are saying is that Yaldabaoth (God's first name to be known by) lets everyone have signs of its existence when they've never heard of it? Also the "first sin" didn't create strife between them. They were in agreement to do it. It created strife against humanity as a whole and your God.
 
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Suffer eternally meaning going to hell, and forgive me for saying this, but I have a hard time seeing how killing off almost every land creature is very loving, even if they are corrupt and evil. For some reason, Samael (God) spared Lucifer even though he is the "father of evil" and his archnemesis, so this in itself proves that Saklas (yet another name for your god) has some disdain towards humanity otherwise he would have killed Satan too with a single thought.
And this is why you need to read the Old Testament and not just Noah's history. If you cannot see His mercy in sparing Noah and his family to start the world over again, and also grieved in His heart, then I don't know what else to tell you but this:
Why you are having such a hard time is because, like so many others, won't open the Bible, let God in your life and read. You're asking two different things. I'm not going to spoon feed anyone, all I can do is simply provide you with hints. God has the answers and will gladly give them to you if you just read.


So what you are saying is that Yaldabaoth (God's first name to be known by) lets everyone have signs of its existence when they've never heard of it? Also the "first sin" didn't create strife between them. They were in agreement to do it. It created strife against humanity as a whole and your God.

Oh, "it" isn't God. He is God. YWHW, Yeheshua, I AM. His love is through mercy, and also dying on the cross for our sins that we may yet live if we believe in Him. And like I said above, you have to do the work and see for yourself.
I am not governed by "it", whatever that is. That isn't what I said, I've stated God as He, not this... it. So what you state as my "god" isn't true. I'm by no means attacking you with your beliefs, but feel you are doing so when you state "your god". God is God and He isn't owned by anyone.

Also, Satan is not spared. I have no idea where you got that from, but no not spared. God punished him by sending him to earth to roam back and forth, and eventually hell (which is in Revelation). So, which brings me to question: what is your definition of hell?
 
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Why does god hate me. Everything I do somebody bad happens like I can't explain it
I first came to Christ at about the age of 6 shortly there after I read this passage in John 15:18 and I asked God to become so much a part of me that it was impossible to know where He began and I ended. I prayed that those who hated Him would hate me because of the Christ in me. Man, I had no idea what a can of worms that opened up in my life.

Without information you haven't given us, I can't tell you why bad things are happening, but I am currently working on a deep study of sufferings and I will share a few truths from that study with you that might help.

1. sometimes we suffer because of the Christ within us and the hate the world have for that very same Christ
2. sometimes we suffer because the world itself is not reconciled to God. IOW's it's just the nature of a world that was broken by sin.
3. sometimes we suffer because of our own sins and we need to ask God to search us and find and remove our evil. We need to confess and repent and yield to His holiness.
4. sometimes we suffer because others sin in that case we need to refrain from judgment, forgive, and when possible correct gently.

What we can know for sure is...
1. When we are weak He is strong...been learning this one anew myself
2. He will use this thing for good if we allow Him to do so
3. He is allowing it because He is Love and His Love is beyond our understanding which is why we need to trust Him even when it doesn't seem to make sense.
4. When we have the right perspective on our sufferings, we begin to realize they are temporary, fleeting sufferings compared to the richness of the glory that awaits us.
5. When we suffer, we need to seek Gods wisdom for our situation and in that trust that HE has given it. James 1

I'm a pretty good listener if you want to PM me.

May you find strength in our Lord as you wait upon Him. May you have the grace and courage to ask Him for His wisdom in your situation.
 
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Suffering reveals and illuminates the heights and depths and wide of Love. Think about it, how would we know how much we are loved if there was no suffering to reveal to us how much we were loved. Without suffering, Love would just be flowery words without much meaning. With suffering, Love takes on dimension.
That is true I suppose.
And this is why you need to read the Old Testament and not just Noah's history. If you cannot see His mercy in sparing Noah and his family to start the world over again, and also grieved in His heart, then I don't know what else to tell you but this:
Why you are having such a hard time is because, like so many others, won't open the Bible, let God in your life and read. You're asking two different things. I'm not going to spoon feed anyone, all I can do is simply provide you with hints. God has the answers and will gladly give them to you if you just read.




Oh, "it" isn't God. He is God. YWHW, Yeheshua, I AM. His love is through mercy, and also dying on the cross for our sins that we may yet live if we believe in Him. And like I said above, you have to do the work and see for yourself.
I am not governed by "it", whatever that is. That isn't what I said, I've stated God as He, not this... it. So what you state as my "god" isn't true. I'm by no means attacking you with your beliefs, but feel you are doing so when you state "your god". God is God and He isn't owned by anyone.

Also, Satan is not spared. I have no idea where you got that from, but no not spared. God punished him by sending him to earth to roam back and forth, and eventually hell (which is in Revelation). So, which brings me to question: what is your definition of hell?
If you wish for me to read more, then I will. As for my definition of hell, Hell is simply being disconnected from your god. It is described as a torturous experience, but it isn't all firey chains and lava baths. As for Satan, i mean he was spared as in he wasn't destroyed unlike the millions of people in the flood who were. It's funny when you think about it for the reason that your god could make everyone less sinful with a single though instead of killing them like he did.
 
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That is true I suppose.

If you wish for me to read more, then I will. As for my definition of hell, Hell is simply being disconnected from your god. It is described as a torturous experience, but it isn't all firey chains and lava baths. As for Satan, i mean he was spared as in he wasn't destroyed unlike the millions of people in the flood who were. It's funny when you think about it for the reason that your god could make everyone less sinful with a single though instead of killing them like he did.
From the traditional understanding of hell, the people in Noah's day that died were also spared in the way you compare Satan here in that they spent eternity in hell. IOW's the comparison is flawed based on the traditional understanding of hell and eternity without God. Just saying...

Also, just so you know, God is trying to make people less sinful with a simple "okay, that is what I choose" and man runs from that like it was doom, so not sure how a simple thought would make it better, then we would have all kinds of people trying to fight God for the right to do what they want just like they do now.
 
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