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Why does God allow us to suffer?

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If you're incapable of feeling or understanding love without the guidance of a deity then yes, it's a good thing.

You have proven that mankind is incapable of that. Look at you, you want to destroy the teaching of love.
 
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Evidently I am better than this god - since I'm troubled enough by the inequity of the human condition to do something about it.

Then get off the internet and go relieve suffering, instead of tearing down a message of love
 
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The Lord teaches me to love people, and to help them. Even if you dont believe he exists, surely you should see value in HIs teaching about love. Perhaps its you who might see a glimmer of awareness here.
Why is he allowing so many children to live horrible lives. Why are they being punish? Or having to live horrible lives. How is this teaching us about love or anything?
 
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If i had listened to God, i wouldn't be suffering right now. Thats the truth, I didn't follow what he taught, and now im suffering because of that, Its not him who caused my depression and other things, its people who treat me like dirt. Had i listened to God, i would have not needed to endure the abuse of people. I cant speak for others, but thats my story. Should i be angry at God for not making me obey him, so i would not need to suffer at the hands of people? I dont see how being bitter and angry will make it better. Its my fault and thats the truth. However, God promises hope and restoration one day, in heaven.

So i embrace his message of love for others, i learn to forgive them, which actually relieves my suffering because unforgiveness only disturbs my peace in a very bad way, I cannot see how God is at fault for anything, and he actually tried to warn me, You can blame him for not creating a better life for me, but that would mean that you would admit he is real. If he is real then how can i possibly be angry at him? Hes my only hope.
 
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Why is he allowing so many children to live horrible lives. Why are they being punish? Or having to live horrible lives. How is this teaching us about love or anything?

Why are you allowing it? How many kids can you feed with your internet bill?
 
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"Why does God allow us to suffer?"

Because He's having a bet with Satan as to whether the individual will crack?

Take it literally, take it as a parable, you have to work hard to give God a good moral character in Job.

Atheists boast of their intellect, yet they prove that logic is far from them. Why dont you go out and fix the world instead of sitting on the internet crying about God?
 
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Why are you allowing it? How many kids can you feed with your internet bill?
I don't pay for internet. I use a family members internet, so I could save money. I doubt they even think much of the starving people. I sure plenty of people try to help these children. But still children are starving.
 
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Still the question is why does God allow all these children to starve, be sold as sex slaves and other stuff?


Think about how illogical your question is. You dont even believe he exists. So the only logical reason you would have to question him is to prove that he doesn't exist. Will that stop sex slavery? No. So whats the point then? How does Atheism help? In your believe we die after suffering and that's the end. At least with God we have HIs promise of both justice and eternal life. I see no logic in being an atheist.
 
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All we have to go on are the claims of believers. They say a) God cured my rich and well fed and air-conditioned bad back, and b) god allows small children to die horrible deaths after a short life of abject suffering in abject poverty so that I learn to be a better Christian.

If you can't see anything wrong with that picture then you may be lost to your own morality.
Do you want to talk about people or do you want to talk about God? The question is what does the Bible say about God?
 
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Think about how illogical your question is. You dont even believe he exists. So the only logical reason you would have to question him is to prove that he doesn't exist. Will that stop sex slavery? No. So whats the point then? How does Atheism help? In your believe we die after suffering and that's the end. At least with God we have HIs promise of both justice and eternal life. I see no logic in being an atheist.
I'm not an Atheist. I KNOW people that are Atheist help, by paying the monthly food and some help the community. But the question is why does God allow this at all?
 
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Atheists boast of their intellect, yet they prove that logic is far from them. Why dont you go out and fix the world instead of sitting on the internet crying about God?

Just looking at what's in the bible, and feeding it back when appropriate.
If it's not a legitimate motive for God in allowing suffering, what's Job doing in the bible?

And I've seen too many people suffer, and be broken by suffering, to lightly accept any variation of "good comes of it".
or "it makes for character and spiritual strength." There's evidence against these optimistic hypotheses or assertions.

You decry our intellect, but decline to demonstrate its failure by engaging it with yours...
I can't "go out and fix the world" as I'm a cripple and can't go out.
But I've done a few things for bits of the world in my time.
 
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God allows us to suffer, then Atheism allows it to end there, without any hope. Thank Atheists, you really help the world.
God can and does use atheists to accomplish His purpose.
 
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Im not here to bash Atheists. All im saying is that its illogical to blame God. I think i have showed why its illogical.

Im also saying that without God what hope do we have? Will we be better off without Him? What hope is there for us without Him? All we have coming is a grave. If that's Atheism then you are more than welcome to enjoy it. I choose to believe in something more.

Thats all im saying.
 
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