Why does evolution threaten God?

[Michael]

Do we have an internal tail? if so, does God?

Yes and maybe. FYI, by "his image", I assume it means "rational thought", "higher intellect", 'interested in science", and stuff like that. I don't necessarily interpret it to mean that we physically look just like God.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't really interpret the Bible "literally" to begin with, but for argument sake....

Whatever "changes" took place that created what is now a uniquely human species, it could have occurred in one or two generations. Furthermore these same single generation genetic changes could be passed down to others and they too could became "uniquely human" based on these genetic differences. I fail to see why their could not have been a specific "person" (or persons) that we might refer to as an "Eve" or an "Adam" that looked very different from their original parent species due to the unique genetic changes.

Keep in mind that I interpret the whole story metaphorically, but even a "literal" interpretation is possible in terms of science and macroevolutionary theory.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, Michael.

Evolution is "dolled up" to make it look acceptable to the common man; but inwardly it is -- literally -- full of dead mens' bones.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes and maybe. FYI, by "his image", I assume it means "rational thought", "higher intellect", 'interested in science", and stuff like that. I don't necessarily interpret it to mean that we physically look just like God.

The Bible doesn't just say "image" though; It says "image and likeness".

 

[AV1611VET]

... 'interested in science" ...

OUCH!

I just caught that --

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Do we have an internal tail? if so, does God?

Depends on whether God is a literal, physical, breathing human. This isn't what most people consider to be a god (Jesus notwithstanding). TE's, for instance, see us as being made in the spiritual 'image' of God, not the physical image.

 

[Michael]

You can't have your cake and eat it too, Michael.

Catholics seem to be able to reconcile these ideas just fine.

Evolution is "dolled up" to make it look acceptable to the common man; but inwardly it is -- literally -- full of dead mens' bones.

So? The entire Earth is full of dead men's bones, dead dinosaur bones and bones of every species that have every walked the planet. I fail to see how those bones that fill the Earth are anything other than 'evidence" that the theory of evolution is correct.

What I do hope you realize is that those "bones" also tell us that humans have not walked the Earth forever, and they were "created" at some point in time. Evolutionary theory isn't actually directly at odds with the concept of "intelligent design". In fact evolutionary theory is congruent with a constantly intelligently changing design.

 

[Michael]

Depends on whether God is a literal, physical, breathing human. This isn't what most people consider to be a god (Jesus notwithstanding). TE's, for instance, see us as being made in the spiritual 'image' of God, not the physical image.

I think that's probably how most Catholics interpret the notion of "in his image". Most don't take that literally to the physical level.

 

[Michael]

OUCH!

I just caught that --

 

[AV1611VET]

Depends on whether God is a literal, physical, breathing human. This isn't what most people consider to be a god (Jesus notwithstanding). TE's, for instance, see us as being made in the spiritual 'image' of God, not the physical image.

Well, as I said before, I think it's blasphemy to claim that it took millions of years of mutations to achieve this 'image & likeness'.

Besides, we came from the dust of the earth, not the DNA of an earthworm.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Well, as I said before, I think it's blasphemy to claim that it took millions of years of mutations to achieve this 'image & likeness'.

In God, all things are possible. If he chose to take millions of years to develop us, then who are we to argue?

Besides, we came from the dust of the earth, not the DNA of an earthworm.

Allegedly. The fun thing about metaphors is that they're not to be taken literally. 'From the dust of the Earth' sounds like an excellent metaphor for a natural, bottom-up approach to the origin of life, rather than a 'poof' origin.

 

[Michael]

Well, as I said before, I think it's blasphemy to claim that it took millions of years of mutations to achieve this 'image & likeness'.

IMO you're confusing God's "will" with his ability. The number of years it took is irrelevant, and macro evolutionary processes can occur in a single generation. Some things however do take time to get right.

Besides, we came from the dust of the earth, not the DNA of an earthworm.

FYI, all of the elements that make up our DNA and all DNA come from the stars and the dust from those stars that happened to land on Earth.

 

[Hespera]

Evolution is a joke.

a good example of why Christian missionaries have so little success in educated, sophisticated countries like china.

my friends think that the falun gong is a bunch of retrograde nuts!

but they have not seen american fundies circle their trailers

 

[Gracchus]

Nothing threatens God; but evolution, in my opinion, is blasphemy.

Surely, God can determine what is blasphemy, and deal with it. Fundamentalists keep telling us that God is mysterious and unknowable. And he changes his mind. He "repents".

Well evolution is funny and unexpected like a joke. Start out near the beginning with worms and jellyfish, and wind up with Shakespeare and astronauts and what-not.

But we still have worms and jellyfish ... and you. Evolution isn't necessarily progress.

No, one cannot believe the Bible and Evolution at the same time. They contradict each other.

Since when do religious folks let cognitive dissonance bother them?

 

[Hespera]

Yes and maybe. FYI, by "his image", I assume it means "rational thought", "higher intellect", 'interested in science", and stuff like that. I don't necessarily interpret it to mean that we physically look just like God.

Chinese women look much more "just like god' than white anglo dispenso-inerrantists do. Smarter, too.

 

[pgp_protector]

Evolution doesn't threaten God.

It only threatens certain human ideas of God.

If you built your faith up on that sand, that's your own fault.

& Reped

 

[pgp_protector]

No, one cannot believe the Bible and Evolution at the same time. They contradict each other.

So you're calling all Christians that accept Evolution a nobody?

 

[Chesterton]

But we still have worms and jellyfish ... and you. Evolution isn't necessarily progress.

Yes, I've met worms and jellyfish who offend me much less than you do, Gracchus. So I suppose humans are potentially in some sense a regress.

 

[Chesterton]

Chinese women look much more "just like god' than white anglo dispenso-inerrantists do. Smarter, too.

Not sure what you're aiming for, but they don't give awards here on CF for "Most Racist Poster".

 

[Gracchus]

Yes, I've met worms and jellyfish who offend me much less than you do, Gracchus. So I suppose humans are potentially in some sense a regress.

I have never met a worm or a jellyfish that offended me at all, for the same reason you don't offend me.

 

[Cabal]

Chinese women look much more "just like god' than white anglo dispenso-inerrantists do.

Having quite an awesome Chinese girlfriend I'm going to have to agree here.