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Why does everyone think Evolution contradicts Creationism?

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Ah yes, the good ol' "There is no contradiction at all in the Bible, if you were a True Scotsman True Christian you would see how the apparent contradictions are actually not." argument.
The vast, vast, vast majority of people do not read the Bible.
 
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1. Radiometric dating of terrestrial and lunar rocks and meteorites has yielded a maximum age for solar system material of 4568.12 Myr and for terrestrial minerals of 4400 Myr.
2. Varved sediments cover time periods from a few thousand years to millions of years.
3. The sheer cumulative thickness of sedimentary rocks (>10 km for individual systems and >100 km for the sum of the maximum thicknesses of the individual systems) requires deposition over periods of >100 million years.
4. Surface exposures of high-grade metamorphic rocks, formed at depths of 10-40 km or more, require equally long periods of erosion.
5. Geodetic measurements of the movements of the tectonic plates show that times of >100 Myr are required to achieve the geologically observed displacements.
6. The presence of Permo-Carboniferous tillites (glacial deposits) in India, near to the present equator, show that India must have moved through at least 10,000 km since these tillites were formed. At the observed speed of tectonic plates this requires at least 100 Myr.
7. Lorence G. Collins - http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/collins.pdf - has argued that the accumulation of chloride ions in the oceans would require 3600 Myr, and therefore the oceans must be at least this old.
8. The observed recession of the moon from the earth requires 1-10 billion years from an initial state when the moon was close to the earth.
9. The heavy cratering of the moon and the terrestrial planets, combined with calculations of the expected rates of planetary collisions with meteorites and asteroids, requires billions of years.
10. The Widmanstätten structure of iron meteorites yields cooling rates of -2° to -10° per million years and requires cooling times of a few hundred million years.
11. Dynamical analyses of asteroid families yield ages of tens or hundreds of millions of years for these families.
12. The fact that most asteroids are in a state of principal axis rotation implies that they are hundreds or thousands of millions of years old.
13. The frequencies of solar oscillations fit a solar model with an age of 4.57 billion years, in exact agreement with the radiometric ages of meteorites.
14. The recession rates of the galaxies suggest an age for the universe of about 14 billion years.

Please keep this in mind. No one KNOWS how old the Earth, Solar System and Universe are.

The evidence presented above suggests that scientists do know, at least to a good approximation, how old the Earth, Solar System and Universe are.
 
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Well, both sides can play this way. Enjoy them.

See:

https://www.ldsfocuschrist2.wordpress.com/category/intelligent-design/page/2/

Sincerely,

ArtB

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I'm a Christian who believes in theistic evolution and I don't know many non-fundamentalists who believe otherwise. If Jesus used parables all over the NT, I have no problem believing that the OT is similar in that regard. I actually cringe sometimes when I hear some of the things YEC say. It's fine to have your beliefs, but to mock and insult scientists and act like you are a million times smarter than people who have dedicated their lives to this stuff is pretty petty. Granted, this isn't most of YEC, just a select few.

Evolution has been fairly well supported, and I really don't think it's some sort of salvation issue to accept science.
 
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Hello and welcome to CF!
If Jesus used parables all over the NT, I have no problem believing that the OT is similar in that regard.
Can you give me an instance where the Bible either: 1) does not warn us ahead of time that a parable is coming, or 2) does not explain it later?*

* Examples:
  1. Luke 6:39a And he spake a parable unto them,
  2. Galatians 4:24a Which things are an allegory:
 
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As I was saying

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Wow that is a new one. Evolution is man randomly killing of dogs. I will add that to the other 101 theories about evolution.
 
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Why wouldn't it?

Wasn't Thalidomide a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't L'Aquila a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't Pluto a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't Phlogiston theory a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't geocentrism a "well attested fact"?

And don't forget the Piltdown Man that was proclaimed the missing link for 50 years and then it was pronounced it was a hoax.
 
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Want a list?
It would just be a list of things you do not understand because you do not allow The Holy Spirit of God to guide you and to lead you into the truth. It is God that gives us wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
 
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It would just be a list of things you do not understand because you do not allow The Holy Spirit of God to guide you and to lead you into the truth. It is God that gives us wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
No, it would be a list of stuff in the Bible that straight up contradicts other stuff in the Bible.
 
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