Why does everyone think Evolution contradicts Creationism?

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If I were an all powerful being who wanted to create something as big and beautiful as the ENTIRE UNIVERSE... I would NEVER do it all by hand. I'd be too smart for that. First, I'd create the Laws of Physics, chemistry, etc. Then I would design a mechanism by which life of all forms can flourish.... IE... Evolution.

To me, Evolution is proof of creationism. It is proof that there is an Omniscient, Omnipotent being out there.

Most people who don't believe in evolution say "it's just a theory, it hasn't been proven" Which is a blatant misunderstanding of the word "theory". In scientific terms, a theory is something that has been proven, but not quantified (As opposed to a Law which is always true in every instance and can be calculated). It happens folks. No amount of whining and moaning can un-prove or undo evolution. So instead of believing that it is some affront to God, why not realize that Evolution is actually God's work?

We've seen evolution in our lifetimes. On microbial scale, we see things like algae being coaxed into evolving into fuel producing species. As humans, we've had a hand in the evolution of Dogs. We chose the ones that are loyal and that look nice, and the rest were routinely killed off. Even an astute person can see how traits are passed down from human parent to human child. We see hundreds or thousands of versions of the same plants and animals in different regions of the world.

So lets look at this differently.

Evolution does not disprove creationism, it is the mechanism. Science is how were discover God's universe. It is not the unholy tool by which we unravel God. It is God's tool by which we discover HIM!
 

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If I were an all powerful being who wanted to create something as big and beautiful as the ENTIRE UNIVERSE... I would NEVER do it all by hand. I'd be too smart for that. First, I'd create the Laws of Physics, chemistry, etc. Then I would design a mechanism by which life of all forms can flourish.... IE... Evolution.

To me, Evolution is proof of creationism. It is proof that there is an Omniscient, Omnipotent being out there.

Most people who don't believe in evolution say "it's just a theory, it hasn't been proven" Which is a blatant misunderstanding of the word "theory". In scientific terms, a theory is something that has been proven, but not quantified (As opposed to a Law which is always true in every instance and can be calculated). It happens folks. No amount of whining and moaning can un-prove or undo evolution. So instead of believing that it is some affront to God, why not realize that Evolution is actually God's work?

We've seen evolution in our lifetimes. On microbial scale, we see things like algae being coaxed into evolving into fuel producing species. As humans, we've had a hand in the evolution of Dogs. We chose the ones that are loyal and that look nice, and the rest were routinely killed off. Even an astute person can see how traits are passed down from human parent to human child. We see hundreds or thousands of versions of the same plants and animals in different regions of the world.

So lets look at this differently.

Evolution does not disprove creationism, it is the mechanism. Science is how were discover God's universe. It is not the unholy tool by which we unravel God. It is God's tool by which we discover HIM!

 
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That is how the terms are defined

cre·a·tion·ism

"the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution."
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=creationism+definition

"the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creationism

"a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the way described in Genesis "
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creationism

"The belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution."
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/creationism

I can find more if you want.
 
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If I were an all powerful being who wanted to create something as big and beautiful as the ENTIRE UNIVERSE... I would NEVER do it all by hand. I'd be too smart for that. First, I'd create the Laws of Physics, chemistry, etc. Then I would design a mechanism by which life of all forms can flourish.... IE... Evolution.
Would you be "too smart" to have it documented that you did it all in six days, even incorporating that into the Ten Commandments?

And welcome to CF! :wave:
 
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To me, Evolution is proof of creationism. It is proof that there is an Omniscient, Omnipotent being out there.

Creationism is the belief that God created biodiversity without using evolution.

What you are referring to is called "'theistic evolution".
 
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Would you be "too smart" to have it documented that you did it all in six days, even incorporating that into the Ten Commandments?

And welcome to CF! :wave:

Apparently, an all powerful and all knowing God is not allowed to use parables.
 
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Apparently, an all powerful and all knowing God is not allowed to use parables.
great point... Only recently have we begun to grasp the enormity of the scale of our universe and Time itself. Using Measures of time that were understandable back then would have been a much better way to get your point across. The numbers to really describe the length and scale of creation were not even thought of back then. I doubt most of them could even comprehend a thousand
 
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Apparently, an all powerful and all knowing God is not allowed to use parables.
Show me an example where He used a parable without either telling us ahead of time,* or explaining it later?**

* Luke 6:39a And he spake a parable unto them,

** Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
 
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If I were an all powerful being who wanted to create something as big and beautiful as the ENTIRE UNIVERSE... I would NEVER do it all by hand. I'd be too smart for that. First, I'd create the Laws of Physics, chemistry, etc. Then I would design a mechanism by which life of all forms can flourish.... IE... Evolution.

To me, Evolution is proof of creationism. It is proof that there is an Omniscient, Omnipotent being out there.

Most people who don't believe in evolution say "it's just a theory, it hasn't been proven" Which is a blatant misunderstanding of the word "theory". In scientific terms, a theory is something that has been proven, but not quantified (As opposed to a Law which is always true in every instance and can be calculated). It happens folks. No amount of whining and moaning can un-prove or undo evolution. So instead of believing that it is some affront to God, why not realize that Evolution is actually God's work?

We've seen evolution in our lifetimes. On microbial scale, we see things like algae being coaxed into evolving into fuel producing species. As humans, we've had a hand in the evolution of Dogs. We chose the ones that are loyal and that look nice, and the rest were routinely killed off. Even an astute person can see how traits are passed down from human parent to human child. We see hundreds or thousands of versions of the same plants and animals in different regions of the world.

So lets look at this differently.

Evolution does not disprove creationism, it is the mechanism. Science is how were discover God's universe. It is not the unholy tool by which we unravel God. It is God's tool by which we discover HIM!
Exactly, evolution doesn't mean no God and No God doesn't mean evolution.
 
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I'm not really new, I'm what you would call a lurker. I've been around since 2012
Well, it's nice to have you aboard!

Roll up your sleeves and dig right in!
 
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Show me an example where He used a parable without either telling us ahead of time,* or explaining it later?**

* Luke 6:39a And he spake a parable unto them,

** Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

Luke is God?
 
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You were trying to claim that God said this or that, and then you quote Luke saying something. Do you think Luke is God? Do you think Paul is God?
I think this:
Apparently, an all powerful and all knowing God is not allowed to use parables.
... can take a hike.
 
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The word "creationism" has come to mean the denial of any well attested fact, which gets in the way of an extremely literal interpretation of the Bible.

If the history of the last hundred years had been different, the word might not carry that baggage today, but there is no point in trying to redefine it now, especially as the head bangers in the southern states of America wouldn't let you.
 
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The word "creationism" has come to mean the denial of any well attested fact, which gets in the way of an extremely literal interpretation of the Bible.
Why wouldn't it?

Wasn't Thalidomide a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't L'Aquila a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't Pluto a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't Phlogiston theory a "well attested fact"?

Wasn't geocentrism a "well attested fact"?
 
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