Why does everyone think Evolution contradicts Creationism?

[Phenotype]

Would you go to L'Aquila if scientists told you it was safe?

You're into dumbing down the discourse. Say something that warrants a considered response AV1611VET.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're into dumbing down the discourse. Say something that warrants a considered response AV1611VET.

Jesus saves.

 

[bhsmte]

Jesus saves.

And Esposito scores on the rebound.

 

[Loudmouth]

Jesus saves.

Walmart saves.

 

[bhsmte]

Walmart saves.

And you can save big money at Menards.

 

[toLiJC]

This post is incoherent toLiC. You need to read a book. Not Christian material. That will only get you more cemented into the God delusion.

Go to the bookshop, have a really good look, buy a book and read it.

All the best.

has reading of scientific books or science been able to provide everyone with full salvation from evil and (with) eternal life?!

Blessings

 

[Goonie]

has reading of scientific books or science been able to provide everyone with full salvation from evil and (with) eternal life?!

Blessings

Has religion, with evidence please

Science does not address evil, or eternal life, it is the study of the natural world. And all evidence points to evolution, an old earth, a round earth (There are flat earthers out here) There is no working scientific theory of creation, and even if there was it would be seen as merely one more of God's mechanisms by many.

 

[Phenotype]

Jesus saves.

Saved from yourself?

Why, what are you likely to do?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why, what are you likely to do?

Die and go to Hell.

 

[Phenotype]

Die and go to Hell.

Are you going to heaven now?

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you going to heaven now?

Not yet.

Jesus is preparing my mansion.

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

When He is done, He will call me Home.

 

[asherahSamaria]

Jesus saves.

Not on my salary he wouldn't.....

 

[Phenotype]

Not yet.

Jesus is preparing my mansion.

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

When He is done, He will call me Home.

So when you are in heaven, how will you not ever think of me for instance, writhing in unspeakable agony for all eternity?

Mind you AV1611VET, I have meditated long on this image. I was traveling on a packed country train, economy class, reading The Portrait Of the Artist As a Young Man, James Joyce 1910, classic literature. Joyce was Irish.

There are two sermons in one chapter, delivered to the callow youths in the boarding school Joyce attended, by two of the old Jesuit brothers. Each sermon is three pages of graphic and quite awesome description of Hell and why you don't want to go there, so you'd better believe, and don't have sex or touch yourself.

Adjacent to me was a drunk parochial rustic yokel and his uneducated young adult kids grinning while their dad made this possibly gay young Korean traveler decidedly uncomfortable. The cornered Korean guy answered that he didn't like Australia. "Well, why don't go back where you came from?" I was cringing, ashamed of being an Australian. I spoke up.

Meanwhile I was intensely reading this book, these ponderous sermons on Hell.

So AV1611VET, how will you not think of me 'down there?' Is it memory erasure? Are you happy about not being able to know what's really going on? God will be witnessing it. He can't not, can He? He knows absolutely everything about everything simultaneously in both directions of time. He has no limits or boundaries. He will completely know what I will be experiencing.

What is that teaching... God can't look on sin? Whatever sin is, He can certainly look on it. He saw what Adam and Eve did in the Garden of Eden, eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. What a silly teaching that is.

Can God deny Himself knowledge and awareness?

I feel my composing these questions will again prove in vain. You will dismiss and conveniently avoid answering because you lack the intellectual courage to tackle them.

Let's see how good an apologist or theologian you are, for someone who has been here so long and so much.

 

[AV1611VET]

So when you are in heaven, how will you not ever think of me for instance, writhing in unspeakable agony for all eternity?

QV please:

Question: "Will we remember our earthly lives when we are in Heaven?"

Answer: Isaiah 65:17 tells us, “For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.” Some interpret Isaiah 65:17 as saying that we will have no memory of our earthly lives in heaven. However, one verse earlier in Isaiah 65:16, the Bible says, “For the past troubles will be forgotten and hidden from my eyes.” It is likely only our “past troubles” that will be forgotten – not all of our memories. Our memories will be cleansed, redeemed, healed, and restored – not erased. There is no reason why we could not possess many memories from our earthly lives. The memories that will be cleansed are the ones that involve sin, pain, and sadness. Revelation 21:4 declares, “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

Some point to the story of Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16:19-31) as proof that the dead remember their earthly lives. The rich man asked Abraham to send Lazarus back to earth to warn the rich man’s brothers not to come to hell. So he remembered his relatives. He must have also remembered his own life of sin because he never asked to be released from hell, nor did he ask why he was there or claim there had been some kind of mistake. He remembered enough about his earthly life to know that he deserved hell. But this is no proof that those in heaven remember their earthly lives. The rich man’s remembrance was part of his misery. If we have memories in heaven, they will only be of things that will bring us joy.

SOURCE

 

[toLiJC]

Has religion, with evidence please

Science does not address evil, or eternal life, it is the study of the natural world. And all evidence points to evolution, an old earth, a round earth (There are flat earthers out here) There is no working scientific theory of creation, and even if there was it would be seen as merely one more of God's mechanisms by many.

if there is no eternal life either for you or anyone else, what will you hope for?!

Blessings

 

[AV1611VET]

if there is no eternal life either for you or anyone else, what will you hope for?!

Eternal life.

Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Romans 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

 

[bhsmte]

if there is no eternal life either for you or anyone else, what will you
Blessings

Living a good life, that has a positive impact on others.

 

[AV1611VET]

Living a good life, that has a positive impact on others.

Then what?

Annihilation?

And what exactly do you mean by "positive impact on others"?

Helping little old ladys across the street?

Fighting for the rights of the unborn?

Both?

Neither?

 

[Goonie]

if there is no eternal life either for you or anyone else, what will you hope for?!

Blessings

A good life, making a positive impact on those around you. You only have one lifetime so it is up to you to do the best with it.

 

[AV1611VET]

A good life, making a positive impact on those around you. You only have one lifetime so it is up to you to do the best with it.

I would assume that, in the atheistic way of thinking, "good" is a relative term.

Trivia question:

What do sand tiger sharks, polar bears, spiders, hamsters, parasitic wasps, chickens, and tiger salamanders have in common?