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Yes.
I would hope both doctors would treat me as they would treat themselves if they had the same ailment.
Figured you'd deliberately mangle it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
If I think a doctor is a Christian, I will go to him; over going to one I think is an atheist.
I would hope both doctors would professionally treat me the same.
I doubt it.Lets say you had the choice between two doctors; one Christian and one atheist and the atheist has a clear reputation as being the best in his field, while the Christian doctor does not. Would you still choose the Christian doctor?
I doubt it.
jacksbratt said:Galaxies and other objects in the universe show a red shift as well as a blue shift, showing while some are moving away from us, some are moving toward us.
jacksbratt said:Some planets and moons rotate in one direction while some rotate in another. This contradicts the conservation of angular motion.
jacksbratt said:These contradicts the Big bang.
Galaxies and other objects in the universe show a red shift as well as a blue shift, showing while some are moving away from us, some are moving toward us.
Some planets and moons rotate in one direction while some rotate in another. This contradicts the conservation of angular motion.
These contradict the Big bang.
jacksbratt said:The skeletal remains of giant humanoid beings are everywhere.
jacksbratt said:Couple this with the super large constructed objects around the globe as well as the objects that show that previous civilizations had technology that was beyond what we have today, and your TOE is left with a lot of problems.
Your response was......"No, they're not. Show us documentation of one."
There are more and more of these coming into light. The truth cannot be hidden for long. Just take some time to look. Some are hoaxes, I know that, but they cannot all be hoaxes....
Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skull released ? with incredible results | Ancient Origins
Your Response.....They didn't have technology beyond what we have today. However, if they did, how is that a problem for the TOE?
Check out Puma Punku, Baalbek, Gobleki Tepe, Massive 5,000-Year-Old Stone Monument Revealed in Israel,
There are many of these as well. If these ancient civilizations had this technology it throws the time line of evolution into a knot.
I will post more, but my time is out right now.
There are more and more of these coming into light. The truth cannot be hidden for long. Just take some time to look. Some are hoaxes, I know that, but they cannot all be hoaxes....
The speed of light is slowing down.
[/INDENT] Your response..... "No it's not."
However, in 1677 it was measured with an error of +/- 5400 km/second at a speed of 307,600 km/sec. In 1875 at 299,921 km/sec +/- 13 km/sec, done at Harvard. Then in 1983 at 299,792 km/sec +/- 0.00003 km/sec
The advent of the atomic clock (based on cesium oscillation, as apposed to the calculations based on the orbits of planets around the sun) found another interesting fact. The orbital speed of Mars, Venus and Mercury were speeding up or the clocks were slowing down. Both cannot be right.
Well, its a lot of reading by both William Tifft and Halton Arp, however The red shift means they are moving away, the blue means they are moving toward us. If there was a big bang, they should always be moving away, not in random directions.
What's even more interesting is the fact that the further away they are the more they are "red shifted". This would mean they were traveling faster. This didn't make sense so they measured the speed changes and found they were in steps. Multiples of 45 miles per second, like the energy states of an atom. Both, again cannot be true. If the red shift means moving away due to doppler affect the steps would not be incremental.
The speed of light would be 10 to 30 % faster in the first century. Twice as fast in the time of Solomon. Four times as fast in the days of Abraham and millions of times faster in the years before 4000 BC. This brings a huge question into the age of the universe for which evolution needs billions of years that, by these discoveries, may not have existed.
Well, its a lot of reading by both William Tifft and Halton Arp, however The red shift means they are moving away, the blue means they are moving toward us. If there was a big bang, they should always be moving away, not in random directions.
What's even more interesting is the fact that the further away they are the more they are "red shifted". This would mean they were traveling faster. This didn't make sense so they measured the speed changes and found they were in steps. Multiples of 45 miles per second, like the energy states of an atom. Both, again cannot be true. If the red shift means moving away due to the Doppler effect the steps would not be incremental.
From what I understand, if the earth was created in an explosion, all bodies should spin in the same direction. None would be in reverse direction
There are more and more of these coming into light. The truth cannot be hidden for long. Just take some time to look. Some are hoaxes, I know that, but they cannot all be hoaxes....
Your response was......"No, they're not. Show us documentation of one."
There are more and more of these coming into light. The truth cannot be hidden for long. Just take some time to look. Some are hoaxes, I know that, but they cannot all be hoaxes....
Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skull released ? with incredible results | Ancient Origins
Check out Puma Punku, Baalbek, Gobleki Tepe, [/COLOR] Massive 5,000-Year-Old Stone Monument Revealed in Israel,
There are many of these as well. If these ancient civilizations had this technology it throws the time line of evolution into a knot.
This post was a response to jd34. No worries though. I see you have some issues that others do as well.
So, lets walk through them.
Originally Posted by JacksBratt Your post condems your argument. The universe is not a static world. This is the downfall of the TOE.Your response..... "No it's not."
The speed of light is slowing down.
However, in 1677 it was measured with an error of +/- 5400 km/second at a speed of 307,600 km/sec. In 1875 at 299,921 km/sec +/- 13 km/sec, done at Harvard. Then in 1983 at 299,792 km/sec +/- 0.00003 km/sec
The advent of the atomic clock (based on cesium oscillation, as apposed to the calculations based on the orbits of planets around the sun) found another interesting fact. The orbital speed of Mars, Venus and Mercury were speeding up or the clocks were slowing down. Both cannot be right.
Your response......"Not sure if this is true, but why is that a problem?"
Well, its a lot of reading by both William Tifft and Halton Arp, however The red shift means they are moving away, the blue means they are moving toward us. If there was a big bang, they should always be moving away, not in random directions.
What's even more interesting is the fact that the further away they are the more they are "red shifted". This would mean they were traveling faster. This didn't make sense so they measured the speed changes and found they were in steps. Multiples of 45 miles per second, like the energy states of an atom. Both, again cannot be true. If the red shift means moving away due to doppler affect the steps would not be incremental.
This boils down to the fact that the speed of light has slowed down, considerably, over the years. Based on the data of the red shift and the steps of the degree of red shift and its relation to the speed of light, the following would be true. You can check the statistician Allan Montgomery's sites.
The speed of light would be 10 to 30 % faster in the first century. Twice as fast in the time of Solomon. Four times as fast in the days of Abraham and millions of times faster in the years before 4000 BC. This brings a huge question into the age of the universe for which evolution needs billions of years that, by these discoveries, may not have existed.
1 million years before present (BP) atomically is actually 2826 BC with c about 70,000 times c now. 63 million atomic years BP is an actual date of 3005 BC with c about 615,000 times c now.
230 million atomic years BP is an actual date of 3301 BC with c about 1.1 million times c now.
600 million atomic years BP is an actual date of 3536 BC with c about 2.6 million times c now.
2.5 billion atomic years BP is an actual date of 4136 BC with c about 10.8 million times c now.
4.5 billion atomic years BP is an actual date of 4505 BC with c about 19.6 million times c now.
15 billion atomic years BP is an actual date near 5650 BC with c about 65.3 million times c now.
20 billion atomic years BP is an actual date near 5800 BC with c about 87 million times c now.
Your response was...."How is this a contradiction of angular motion?"
From what I understand, if the earth was created in an explosion, all bodies should spin in the same direction. None would be in reverse direction
Your response was..."No they don't."
I disagree....even though evolutionists don't back or contradict or comment on the big bang in many cases.
So if you believe in evolution tell us why.
Understandable, if they had similar reputations and experience.
Lets say you had the choice between two doctors; one Christian and one atheist and the atheist has a clear reputation as being the best in his field, while the Christian doctor does not. Would you still choose the Christian doctor?
If AV wants to choose a Christian doctor that's his choice. I don't choose my doctor on basis of religion. I choose because of his resume and how much experience hes had. The specialist who is performing my endoscopy and possibly taking my gallbladder out isnt Christian but hes got excellent bedside manner and is to the point.
I worship the same God as AV, except his beliefs are different from mine. I do believe in evolution for the most part. However where AV and I differ in our faith of God is that he will not read any other bible. That's not a problem for me. It becomes a problem if he starts saying my word doesn't mean anything because of it but somehow I don't think hes that harsh.
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