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this sort of thing always makes me chuckle.
regardless of what the origins of life is connected to, there is still no proof that life "arose" from the elements.
another thing, why is it you must continually point this out to people?
could it be that people got this impression from what they were taught in school?
if evolution disowns the origins of life then that should be spelled out to our students.
actually, evolution is all about a "no god" scenario in regards to life and its diversity and does indeed include the origins of life.
Life is the change in energy state of elemental configurations involving self-catalyzing molecules in sequestered environments.life might not be composed of "elements".
a certain configuration of these elements might make it possible for life to manifest itself.
Not entirely separate! No cell means no life. No life means the cell is not living. Life is a process, a change in energy states, a subset of all chemistry, which is in turn, a subset of physics. You cannot separate life from the cell any more than you can separate a ripple from a river.life and the living cell might be 2 entirely different things.
Where is "here"? Since the Earth is only about four and a half billion years old, the "here" where life has always existed cannot be the Earth. Since the universe is observable only to the place and time where plasma began to fall to a temperature that enabled electrons to be captured by protons, there could have been no life before that.it could also be that life never arose at all, it has always been here.
Admitting your lack of preparation is admirable. It demonstrates that yu are not completely out of touch with reality. But someone who majored in PE, English or even mathematics is not necessarily qualified to teach biology.i'm not prepared to call college educated teachers "ignorant" or "unqualified".
OK! Why do you think the way you do?when someone brings this up, ask them why they think the way they do.
But you don't seem to be satisfied with the decisions they have made!this stuff belongs on the shoulders of those that approve our text books.
That is, indeed, what science is about. What is apparent, is that your understanding of science is seriously deficient.yes, that's what science is supposed to be about.
You have made assertions. I have not seen any demonstrations.i have clearly demonstrated that this is not the case with evolution.
Willful blindness and cognitive dissonance are common to all humans. That is why science has set standards for peer review and publication. Science is about exposition.it isn't just the creationists, it's the darwinists too, that are willing to go as far as willful blindness.
If you are saying they can't help being mistaken, I can give tentative agreement.like i said before: creationists can be excused.
Science reports replicable observations which for convenience we call "facts". It explains those facts in well tested bundles of facts and reasoning called "theories". It's all in the open.there is NO excuse for the other.
Evolution.Did you mean evolution or abiogenesis?
Probably a theistic evolutionist.The anti Christ is a creationist?
This is totally irrelevant to the origin of species being a different thing to origin of life.i disagree.
it's one thing, a no god explanation to life on earth.
it falls flat on its face in regards to abiogenesis.
You have just betrayed a total lack of understanding of what the Theory of Evolution is all about.the concept of transposons make "small accumulating changes" ludicrous.
the fossil records does not support "ape to man".
there are no experiments that determine any kind of change for an organism. it's never been observed so it's assumed "it takes a long time".
i await those that will cloud the issue by saying we HAVE observed change.
to those i say "you know exactly what i'm talking about".
tear it apart brother, see what you REALLY know about evolution.
Far from it; the Theory of Evolution is the most scrutinised and peer reviewed of all Theories and has passed with flying colours. You don't get many Theories that are as sound as ToE.i know what your reasoning is.
you reason that since "god" sounds so ludicrous then evolution MUST be true.
and that simply is not the case.
i do know this, we will never know by blindly following the leader.
Show me where it says that in ToE?i state a fact when i say "evolution is all about life with no god".
Lack of evidence of Abiogenesis is not evidence of Creationism. You have just made the cardinal error laymen do when through their lack of scientific erudition come to conclusions that are erroneous and scientifically unsound and unfounded.ok, now what?
the fact still remains, life comes from life, you know biogenesis.
evidence . . . or lack thereof.
No there is not. It is an hypothesis.this sort of thing always makes me chuckle.
regardless of what the origins of life is connected to, there is still no proof that life "arose" from the elements.
Quite possibly. Science is taught poorly in this country. Maybe it is because they are both taught during the same time period in biology classes. They are usually different chapters in textbooks, however.another thing, why is it you must continually point this out to people? could it be that people got this impression from what they were taught in school?
I have no issue with this suggestion.if evolution disowns the origins of life then that should be spelled out to our students.
No, you do NOT get tell biologists what their theories say. Sorry.actually, evolution is all about a "no god" scenario in regards to life and its diversity and does indeed include the origins of life.
Science does not deal with any deities. Thus no scientific theory takes your god into consideration. None.i disagree.
it's one thing, a no god explanation to life on earth.
What does? Something that it does not cover?it falls flat on its face in regards to abiogenesis.
Please explain why this is the case.the concept of transposons make "small accumulating changes" ludicrous.
Really? What is Homo erectus, then?the fossil records does not support "ape to man".
Nonsense. We see evolutionary change all the time. Stickleback Evolutionthere are no experiments that determine any kind of change for an organism. it's never been observed so it's assumed "it takes a long time".
How does it "cloud the issue" by pointing out your statement is incorrect?i await those that will cloud the issue by saying we HAVE observed change.
Maybe you should learn to express your points better. Do you have one to make?to those i say "you know exactly what i'm talking about".
tear it apart brother, see what you REALLY know about evolution.
No, it is not. Nice straw man, though.i know what your reasoning is.
you reason that since "god" sounds so ludicrous then evolution MUST be true.
See above.and that simply is not the case.
Like blindly following the writers of the Bible?i do know this, we will never know by blindly following the leader.
Like I said, all scientific theories are "with no god."i state a fact when i say "evolution is all about life with no god".
Currently, yes.ok, now what?
the fact still remains, life comes from life, you know biogenesis.
Where is your evidence? Why is it that you demand "evidence" from others here, but provide none for any of your assertions?evidence . . . or lack thereof.
There is no good reason not to support evolution. We do not live in a static world as if God painted a picture to look at. Our world and the life in it is dynamic and is forever changing over time.
I really know quite a lot about evolution (though there's far more that I don't know). You, on the other hand, seem to know almost nothing about the subject. That fact makes your patronizing dismissal of most of biology look rather silly. I suggest you try a different approach.i disagree.
it's one thing, a no god explanation to life on earth.
it falls flat on its face in regards to abiogenesis.
the concept of transposons make "small accumulating changes" ludicrous.
the fossil records does not support "ape to man".
there are no experiments that determine any kind of change for an organism. it's never been observed so it's assumed "it takes a long time".
i await those that will cloud the issue by saying we HAVE observed change.
to those i say "you know exactly what i'm talking about".
tear it apart brother, see what you REALLY know about evolution.
This is true, if by "I state a fact" you mean "I'm making up an obvious falsehood." Given the many millions of people who both believe in God and accept evolution, your statement is ludicrously false.i know what your reasoning is.
you reason that since "god" sounds so ludicrous then evolution MUST be true.
and that simply is not the case.
i do know this, we will never know by blindly following the leader.
i state a fact when i say "evolution is all about life with no god".
Evolution.
I believe the Antichrist is going to incorporate the hypothesis-theory of abiogenesis into the theory of evolution and make it one unified theory.
you ain't just yanking my chain are you?I really know quite a lot about evolution (though there's far more that I don't know).
you are exactly right.You, on the other hand, seem to know almost nothing about the subject.
you ain't just yanking my chain are you?
you are exactly right.
maybe you can slap me upside the head with some of this nonexistent evidence.
the first piece of evidence you can help me with is the matter of "accumulating change".
where is this evidence?
The word "religion" aside ... yes.Does vilifying science make you feel that your religion better reflects reality?
The word "religion" aside ... yes.Does vilifying science make you feel that your religion better reflects reality?
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