Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[Split Rock]

Francis Collins is a believer in Biologos. This is an example of a great deception in the church.

Romans 1:22New International Version (NIV)

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

This group is an apostate group. They fall into the group that this scripture speaks about.

Just so you know, its against forum rules to question the faith of another Christian here. To paraphrase your compatriots's words, "I thought I'd warn you first before I report you." (no bullying there...btw)

 

[TLK Valentine]

Everything else. We don't need to tell a kid that the giraffe evolved from "whatever" or anything to do with creation in order to study the giraffe, it's habits and habitat.

Similarly, we don't have to know anything about evolution or creation to study the parts of plant cells, animal cells, the water cohesion tension theory, xylem and phloem cells, aerodynamics of airplane wings, Boers laws of gasses, stiochiometry, that water boils at 100 degrees C unless the barometric pressure changes, and how metals are smelted and hardened.

All of these things can be taught without muddying the water with what happened 6000 or more years previous. That is irreverent.

Sounds like you're saying that the issue is not that evolution is false, but that it's unnecessary.

That sound about right?

 

[Split Rock]

Sounds like you're saying that the issue is not that evolution is false, but that it's unnecessary.

That sound about right?

More like, "they don't need to teach things that conflict with my religious dogma."

 

[JacksBratt]

Interesting... lets look at some questions related to your comments to avoid in school because you don't like the theory of evolution:

1. How did the giraffe get such a long neck?
From it's parents.

2. Why do mitochondria and chloroplasts have bacteria-like chromosomes and ribosomes? I don't know but how does this mean a star fish became a horse?

3. Why do we have salt water running through our blood vessels? Same reason we have all the other nutrients in our blood. That's the way we were designed. It doesn't show that I came from a rock.

Here are some more to avoid:

4. Why is the current vaccine against influenza only 50% effective?And this proves that your great grandfather was an amoeba?
5. Why should farmers rotate herbicides? Again, this proves that all life came from a puddle?
6. How do pathogens develop resistance to antibiotics?Again, this proves that all life came from a puddle?
7. Why are fossils in South America similar to ones in Africa? Ah, the whole world was covered in water at the same time. Proof of a world wide flood maybe?
8. Why is the greatest human genetic diversity in Africa? Again, this proves we all came from an amoeba?
9. Why did mammoths become extinct? Their was a change in their habitat that they couldn't adapt to.
10. What happened to the dinosaurs? Well, some are still around, we just call them their modern names. The extremely large ones could not handle the atmospheric changes after the flood.

Some goodies based on your "6,000 years" hint:

1. How old is the Earth?No body knows or can say that they do.
2. How did the Himalayas get so tall? The same way the Rockies got so tall
3. Where did the Great Lakes come from? Low level ground always fills up with water cause water runs down hill.
4. Why do the continents fit together and why are they moving apart? Continental drift is not anti Bible.
5. Why is the moon heavily cratered on one side and Earth is not? Because an amoeba evolved into a horse?????

Yes, let's avoid all the questions that threaten your religious dogma... and yet you claim you aren't afraid.

Evolution is not needed to explain these questions. Both camps have answers. Both camps will say the other is wrong.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Evolution is not needed to explain these questions. Both camps have answers. Both camps will say the other is wrong.

The difference, of course, is that one camp has actual real-world effort to show that its answers are correct...

Now comes the part where you "cleverly" claim that it's the Creationist camp that has made this effort... to the sounds of laughter.

 

[pgp_protector]

Evolution is not needed to explain these questions. Both camps have answers. Both camps will say the other is wrong.

One camp though has Evidence that can be Examined.

 

[bhsmte]

One camp though has Evidence that can be Examined.

Those pesky details.

 

[whois]

One camp though has Evidence that can be Examined.

true to a certain extent.
barbera mcclintock is a good example of this.
if material is presented that goes against current evolution dogma, it is scorned and ridiculed, even though it has solid evidence.

do you really call this unbiased?

 

[pgp_protector]

true to a certain extent.
barbera mcclintock is a good example of this.
if material is presented that goes against current evolution dogma, it is scorned and ridiculed, even though it has solid evidence.

do you really call this unbiased?

Tell us, is this going to be your AV1611VET Equivalent to the Shuttle?

 

[bhsmte]

Francis Collins is a believer in Biologos. This is an example of a great deception in the church.

Romans 1:22New International Version (NIV)

22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

This group is an apostate group. They fall into the group that this scripture speaks about.

Great deception in the church?

How are they being deceptive?

 

[whois]

Tell us, is this going to be your AV1611VET Equivalent to the Shuttle?

please explain.

 

[Loudmouth]

Evolution is not needed to explain these questions. Both camps have answers. Both camps will say the other is wrong.

We have evidence and testable hypotheses. You have neither.

 

[Loudmouth]

true to a certain extent.
barbera mcclintock is a good example of this.
if material is presented that goes against current evolution dogma, it is scorned and ridiculed, even though it has solid evidence.

do you really call this unbiased?

How did her work go against current evolution dogma?

 

[Loudmouth]

What part of our environment is changing at this quick rate?

Agriculture and medicine are the two big ones. We didn't evolve to eat tons of processed foods, corn, and simple sugars. We have removed some selective pressures through medicine, such as making insulin available to type I diabetics.

My father is 87 years old and has one sharp mind. In his years he has saw some changes in society, politics and health.

In his day nobody had peanut allergies, shell fish allergies, etc. Some may be allergic to hay but it was just a minor thing when in a barn full of dust. Not the allergies we see every spring and fall here with antihistamines on every other tv ad. Chrones disease, celiac, irritable bowel.... the human body is not getting better.

The diseases that you are talking about are as much a product of the environment as they are genetics.

 

[bhsmte]

true to a certain extent.
barbera mcclintock is a good example of this.
if material is presented that goes against current evolution dogma, it is scorned and ridiculed, even though it has solid evidence.

do you really call this unbiased?

Did Barbara Mcclintock agree that evolution happens?

Yes, or no?

 

[Loudmouth]

Proof that evolution occurred at all.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

Motivation for even having evolution take place. What would motivate a grand creator to just create on life form and leave it to chance for the rest of them to form over billions of years.

The same thing that motivates us to let forests and landscapes develop naturally.

It states that He made us in His image. Why would He leave it to someday maybe evolving into a creature with His image.

You are the one that believes this stuff. Why are you asking me?

[qutoe]With a creator, there is absolutely no need for evolving of anything.[/quote]

The evidence clearly indicates that life did evolve. You seem to have this problem understanding the relationship between beliefs and reality. Reality does not conform to how you want it to be. You do understand this, right?

What is "Middle Eastern Motif"?

Here are a whole bunch of them:

Middle Eastern Motifs stock illustrations & vector images - iStock

If He can create this wonderfully made universe, I am certain that He could make RNA with all the necessary replicators He needed to start with just two of any and every "kind" of animal and get all the biodiversity we have today

God couldn't start with a simple cell and create laws which allow for biodiversity to emerge all on its own?

Why would God create fake evidence of evolution, and put it in the creation?

I would think that mammal/bird intermediates would only be seen if there was evolution.

Goes to show how little you know about the science you reject. A mammal to bird intermediate would falsify the theory.

Many animals share similar structures, body parts and systems. This is not proof of evolution but proof of a common designer.

IT IS THE NESTED HIERARCHY THAT EVIDENCES EVOLUTION.

Perhaps you will remember next time?

Could "what" be considered true, evolution or creation? Any and all evidence is used to support both camps.

Here are 29+ potential falsifications of the theory of evolution.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

Maybe next time you will not spread this misinformation? Evolution is most certainly falsifiable. Creationism is not. That is why evolution is preferred over creationism.

Creationism doesn't use evidence because no evidence could ever be inconsistent with creationism. That is why it explains nothing.

 

[whois]

How did her work go against current evolution dogma?

will you people please read the material i present?

 

[bhsmte]

will you people please read the material i present?

Is there a reason you can not explain why her work goes against evolution?

 

[Loudmouth]

will you people please read the material i present?

Will you please read it?

How does McClintock's work go against current evolution dogma?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Is there a reason you can not explain why her work goes against evolution?

Because it doesn't.