Okay. How about a somewhat different angle? Whatever begins to exist has a cause. And we know this because every time we have observed something begin to exist it has had a cause. Well, every time we've observed something "beginning to exist" it has been a reconfiguring of already existing stuff. There's never been a time that anyone has observed anything completely new coming into existence. So we should conclude that any time something begins to exist, it is a reconfiguring of already existing stuff. Yes?I think we've beaten this horse to death. Thanks for the dialog.
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