Why do YECs believe the universe is only about 6000 years old?

[lithium.]

Originally posted by webboffin
Found a maybe

Yeah anything is possible but it doens't look good for the global flood thoery.

 

[webboffin]

sorry seesaw I edited my last thread and added another site after you answered. And yes, but it is some evidence if not conclusive. It was in the area where Noah was supposed to be building his ark.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by webboffin
sorry seesaw I edited my last thread and added another site after you answered. And yes, but it is some evidence if not conclusive. It was in the area where Noah was supposed to be building his ark.

The problem is that scientists know that there was a flood in the black sea I have already said this. They know that the mediterranean sea flooded into the blacksea area. There is lots of evidence on this.

 

[lithium.]

Anyway I am done talking about this.

 

[webboffin]

me too I am whacked

Lets agree on something like there is scientific evidence of the Moon. There I can see that.

And I never discuss faked lunar landings LOL

 

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by webboffin
me too I am whacked

Lets agree on something like there is scientific evidence of the Moon. There I can see that.

And I never discuss faked lunar landings LOL

 

Yeah I guess we can agree on this.

 

[webboffin]

Ah good

 

[R-W-H]

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[Smilin]

Originally posted by seesaw
Opps...sorry I didn't mean it like that. Dang I hate that sometimes I can never say what I want to say I need help.

I meant that the bible gives dates (I think I can't remember) that some people take literally.

sorry seesaw, there are no dates in the bible,

the calendars which we date by appeared much later.

And for those of you who keep referring to the Hebrew Calendar:

The origins of the hebrew calendar (which give a 'traditional' date for the creation) is UNKNOWN.

Plus, you CAN'T make a straight conversion from the Hebrew calendar to the current day Gregorian calendar which we use.

 

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by seesaw
Yeah anything is possible but it doens't look good for the global flood thoery.

it's not even looking,

we've discussed that one before.  I don't know if I even want to rehash it.

 

[Homie]

Hey Smilin, you said:
"The origins of the hebrew calendar (which give a 'traditional' date for the creation) is UNKNOWN."
Logically, if it's that old its origin probably will be UNKNOWN. This doesn't invalidate it at all, in fact quite the contrary. It goes to show that the calender really is old because there is nothing to document its origin.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Smilin
sorry seesaw, there are no dates in the bible,

the calendars which we date by appeared much later.

And for those of you who keep referring to the Hebrew Calendar:

The origins of the hebrew calendar (which give a 'traditional' date for the creation) is UNKNOWN.

Plus, you CAN'T make a straight conversion from the Hebrew calendar to the current day Gregorian calendar which we use.

 

oh...ok thanks for the info.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by Homie
Hey Smilin, you said:
"The origins of the hebrew calendar (which give a 'traditional' date for the creation) is UNKNOWN."
Logically, if it's that old its origin probably will be UNKNOWN. This doesn't invalidate it at all, in fact quite the contrary. It goes to show that the calender really is old because there is nothing to document its origin.

Reaalllyyyy....hang on...

You'll find the historical facts associated with the Hebrew Calendar fascinating....

 

[Smilin]

The Hebrew Calendar:

The codified Hebrew calendar as we know it today is generally considered to date from A.M. 4119 (+359), though the exact date is uncertain. At that time the patriarch Hillel II, breaking with tradition, disseminated rules for calculating the calendar. Prior to that time the calendar was regarded as a secret science of the religious authorities. The exact details of Hillel's calendar have not come down to us, but it is generally considered to include rules for intercalation over nineteen-year cycles. Up to the tenth century A.D., however, there was disagreement about the proper years for intercalation and the initial epoch for reckoning years.

Information on calendrical practices prior to Hillel is fragmentary and often contradictory. The earliest evidence indicates a calendar based on observations of Moon phases. Since the Bible mentions seasonal festivals, there must have been intercalation. There was likely an evolution of conflicting calendrical practices. The Babylonian exile, in the first half of the sixth century B.C., greatly influenced the Hebrew calendar. This is visible today in the names of the months. The Babylonian influence may also have led to the practice of intercalating leap months. During the period of the Sanhedrin, a committee of the Sanhedrin met to evaluate reports of sightings of the lunar crescent. If sightings were not possible, the new month was begun 30 days after the beginning of the previous month. Decisions on intercalation were influenced, if not determined entirely, by the state of vegetation and animal life. Although eight-year, nineteen-year, and longer- period intercalation cycles may have been instituted at various times prior to Hillel II, there is little evidence that they were employed consistently over long time spans.

 

[Smilin]

Now...see all the holes associated with dating the earth/biblical events by the Hebrew Calendar...

The early dates of the calendar are a matter of tradition...not accurate math or science. Those who take traditions and present them as 'Christianity facts' only confuse/drive away those who feel betrayed when they learn the truth.

 

[Sinai]

Originally posted by WildHeart75:
2 Peter 3:8

But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

One day in Heaven is one thousand years on earth.
Why do I believe the earth is only 6,000 yrs old?..... God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th, remember 1 day to God is one thousand years to us.

Response posted by Sinai:
So, according to your calculations, 6 x 1,000 years = 6,000 years....

Plus the approximately 6000 years since Adam.

So you're saying 6,000 years + 6,000 years = 6,000 years?

Interesting math, to say the least. Is that by any chance the old math.....the new math......or maybe the aftermath?

Response posted by WildHeart75:
Sanai, you are adding words to my post

there was no 'plus' in my post. I did not say it has been 6,000 yrs since Adam, I said the Earth is 6,000 yrs old.
Maybe your difficulty to understand is because you are adding things to what people are trying to say, therefor, confusing yourself.

Sorry. Thanks for the correction, which makes your calculations even more interesting....and even more curious:

You are apparently saying that you believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old because each of the Genesis "days" of creation are actually 1,000 years old--and since 6 x 1,000 years = 6,000 years, that is how old the Earth actually is. Right?

Since Adam was created on the sixth day, then according to your calculations all of human history since that time had to have occurred in the last 1,000 years. Right?

And if Adam was created toward the end of the sixth day (as many YECies contend), then all of human history would have occurred in only the past few hundred years. Right?

According to your theory and calculations, how long ago was Christ born?

 

[SMELLY SHOE]

if you want proof the earth is not 40,000 years old or,older watch these. there free to down load. it takes a long time to down load there 3 hours each,but if its the truth you really seek,and proof you need then please watch



http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse1.rm
Part 1---The Age of the Earth Video
This session introduces the creation/evolution debate, demonstrating that creation and evolution are irreconcilable worldviews. It also illustrates the impossibility of the Big Bang, and reveals a multitude of evidences that the world simply cannot be billions of years old. It concludes with a demonstration of brainwashing, and how many have been brainwashed by evolutionary theories.


http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse2.rm
Part 2---The Garden of Eden Video
This session discusses the reason people disbelieve the Bible, unscriptural theories that try to reconcile the Bible with evolution, and the incredible differences of the pre-flood world. This is supported with evidence from the Bible and from science. Also covered are "cave men" hoaxes that are still taught today.


http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse3.rm
Part 3---Dinosaurs and the Bible Video
Did Noah take dinosaurs on the ark? Does the Bible mention dinosaurs? Find out in this session, and even see the strong possibility that some dinosaurs are still alive today.


http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse4.rm
Part 4---What is in the Textbooks? Video
One of Dr. Hovind's favorite sessions, see how evolutionists have permeated public school textbooks with false and fraudulent information. See the circular reasoning of the geologic column, the leap of faith from micro to macro evolution, and even quotations by key evolutionists that agree they have no proof. Also discover evolution's tie to abortion, genocide, euthanasia, and racism. Find out what you can do to help fight the destructive lie of evolution.

 

[SMELLY SHOE]

http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse5.rm
Part 5---Evolution: the Foundation for Communism, Nazism, Socialism, and the New World Order Video
In this session, Dr. Hovind reveals how evolution is foundational to the theories of communism, Nazism, and Socialism. Learn how evolution is being used today to prepare people for the "New World Order."

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Part 6---The Hovind Theory Video
So, how could it have happened? Viewing scientific observation through a scriptural framework, Part 6 explains Dr. Hovind's theory of the workings of the flood. This session also discusses the geologic evidences in the world today, and how they actually support the flood, not evolution.


http://media.drdino.com/sem/video/rm/cse7.rm
Part 7---Question and Answer Session Video
Find out the answers to many topics not covered in the seminar, including:

Explanation for billions of light-years from stars
Supposed contradictions in the Bible
Carbon Dating
Where did the races come from?
Origin of races
Great Pyramid
Does God get old?
Bigfoot
UFOs

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[chickenman]

what a total waste of bandwidth

 

[doone128]

Originally posted by chickenman
what a total waste of bandwidth

Actually, it's not a waste of Bandwidth. Those vids are full of facts and information about the fallacy that is evolution. I suggest that everyone makes an attempt to watch them , Christians and Non-christians.