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Why do YECs believe the universe is only about 6000 years old?

Sinai

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It is my understanding that young earth creationists generally think that both time and the universe were begun by God about 6,000 years ago ["the beginning" referred to in Genesis 1:1]. They generally arrive at this figure by adding the years often listed for the persons found in the geneologies of Jesus Christ together to determine the number of years from the creation of Adam to the birth of Jesus. Since it is generally believed that Christ was born slightly over 2000 years ago, those years are added to the equation.

Actually, it is more likely that most have adopted the figures and computations compiled by either John Lightfoot or James Ussher in the mid 1600s (and subsequently used by various followers) or some derivation from their works.

The primary place young earth creationists seem to differ from other persons (primarily Christians, Jews and possibly Moslims) who accept the Genesis account as being true is that the YECs insist that each of the creation days set out in the first chapter of Genesis is a literal 24-hour period of time, and that all of creation took only 144 hours. They explicitly reject any words in--or interpretations of--the original Hebrew that suggest that a different time reference frame would be more accurate. Thus, they insist that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.

This thread is addressed to the young earth creationists. I would like to give you a full and fair opportunity to present your side of the story, and to tell everyone precisely WHY you believe the universe is only about 6000 years old. Please observe the following points:

1. This thread deals with the age of the universe--not the age of the earth or life on the earth (or whether evolution occurred).

2. If you think that the weight of scientific evidence requires you to believe the universe is only about 6000 years old, please cite the evidence upon which you are relying.

3. If you think biblical scriptures require you to believe the universe is only about 6000 years old, please cite the scriptural reference. If the reference could be interpreted in a manner other than the way you interpret it, it would probably also help if you state why you think your interpretation is more likely than the other interpretation(s).

4. If the reason you believe the universe is only about 6000 years old is because that is what you read on a website, please cite the website, the author, and what was said there. Similarly, if it is because of a book, please cite the book (and page, if possible). Or if it is because that is what someone you respect told you, please tell who that person is.

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I believe that the earth is young! But the exact age I have not worked out for myself. My reason for the earth being relativley young is based on the geneaology of people from Adam to Jesus. I have not found a place in the bible that tells us how old Adam was when he committed the first sin(Maybe it is there in some version), this leads me to think that it is possible for him to be say....1000 years old, because there is no destruction or death he could have lived to be that old because he would not have aged.

As for the very begining, yes I think that there is a gap between the formless earth and the first day. But I am also lead to think from the scripture that time itslef did not exist during that gap. Sort of like God had the clock but didn't have the batteries in it yet!

My reason for not believing in evolution is based more on Scripture than science. For the earth to be billions of years old and for things to evolve then there would have to be death and descruction before the fall of Adam.

So to tell you the truth I am not sure about the exact age of the earth and don't like to make guesses about it because we don't have exact day to day counts on the whole creation right up to the time of Jesus.
It is better to remain silent and thought to be stupid rather then open your mouth and remove all doubt
 
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Originally posted by andybell
Unless since I studied it at school it became the word of God then no

How do you know its the word of god HUH. Only cause the bible says so. You really don't know its just a book like any other book IMO.
 
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Originally posted by Arnold_Philips
If I can trust God with things I know to be absolutely true, why can't I trust Him in other areas? Especially since He has such great follow up.

What can you trust god to be absolutely true.
 
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Originally posted by andybell
Can I prove it scientifically.....no and sadly that is why you will probably never believe it. But it was writtin by people with the annointing of God upon their life. Though these people God wrote the bible.

Andy, I'm not asking you to prove anything. If you believe that the universe is only about 6000 years old, I'm just asking you to set out your reasons; you can state your case, and tell what it is that convinced you. It doesn't need to be scientific data; scripture is sufficient--but please tell us which verses you are relying upon. If the scriptures can be interpreted more than one way, please tell us your interpretation, and it would be helpful for you to also say why you think your interpretation is more accurate or plausible than the other interpretation(s). Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by andybell
I have not found a place in the bible that tells us how old Adam was when he committed the first sin

You must not read the begats. It had to be before Adam was 133 years old.

Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.


 
 
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Originally posted by seesaw
What can you trust god to be absolutely true.

It has taken me a long time to learn how to trust God. Sometimes you just have to take it a little bit at a time. But in my life in as much as I have trusted Him, He has proven Himself to be trustworthy.

What do you trust in?
 
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Originally posted by andybell
I believe that the earth is young! But the exact age I have not worked out for myself. My reason for the earth being relativley young is based on the geneaology of people from Adam to Jesus.

Thank you, Andy, for your post. Did you add the genealogical years together, or is there a list someone else prepared that you accept as being true?

As for the very begining, yes I think that there is a gap between the formless earth and the first day. But I am also lead to think from the scripture that time itslef did not exist during that gap. Sort of like God had the clock but didn't have the batteries in it yet!

I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Was the gap prior to the beginning of time? If it was after "the beginning" but prior to the formation of the earth, why wouldn't time exist during that period? What scripture causes you to think "that time itslef did not exist during that gap"? Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts and beliefs.
 
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